Also, if Trent's information about quotes is true we started with at least 50% of the player base being anti-town killers, probably more. And at least 3 Neutrals who don't seem to be killers but were diluting the townies additionally. We will either be blown away by any remaining Town powers or we never stood a chance in the first place.

Is the equal sign a typo?



I have a question for you, but I'll wait for cristigale to answer yours first.



I'm sorry you had such a tiring week and day.. I was just trying to make sure I actually understand what you're saying; I didn't think it'd be such a bothersome thing, but perhaps I was wrong. I hope you're in a better mood than you were a couple of days ago.


I have no idea who Jill or Joe Armstrong is supposed to hint at/be within the context of our setup. The only Joe Armstrong that a quick search produced is an American punk-rock musician (with Joe being his middles name), but I highly doubt anything about him is relevant to our game.

@mod - if we ask really nicely, would you enlighten us on the matter?


What do you think it all means?


What makes you believe they may have been blocked, and why blocked specifically?


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Not sure how to read this. It sounds like you had knowledge of bler144's role name, and since N1/D2.


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Why were you hoping for HijacK to provide the name of a fictional character as his role name? And what do you mean with the bit I highlighted?


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Is it? What about the name trentonlf shared? And what about yogsloth's name which was revealed by the Elders/mod? Is that also the name of a real person, and if yes, who is that person?

Also, not sure what the "small potential detection option" was.


You say it should be safe to assume that everything trentonlf said was true, yet you seem not to trust what he said, or at least selectively trust things he said. Why?


I assume that, after the latest reveal, you're counting Bookwymr627 as one. Who else are you counting in this group?


Do you mean there may be no remaining town powers, or something else?

Yeah, sorry exploding like this. I just couldn't go over the same thing (this has actually been happening in the past few days at the office as well) again to a point where I was even sure what we are talking about anymore.


That I saw as well, but it doesn't seem to have anything to do with anything and all others bear make at least some sense in the context of what we know so far.


That we have killers on the loose who are not killing for whatever reason. Execution was probably yog in which case flavor about crime scenes and positioning may not be as simple and direct as I thought it was.


I haven't put my mind to it to work the actual numbers but on quick glance I don't think the math checks out with the amount of kill styles (I'm inclined to assume that each distinct kill style represents a different culprit) and the flipped killers (solid mafia or quotes). Blocked as in actually blocked, prevented, doctored, soaked and so on.


I butchered what I meant here. I wasn't referring to bler's name since I learned that with the reveal. What I knew beforehand was that there are fictional characters in the game.


See the previous answer. Highlighted bit is just a play on words. At the time Hijack revealed I was hoping for a fictional name which would have made me believe his claim more. Then I realized that Trent's flip actually mitigates any question towards Hijack's alignment, so not sharing a fictional name actually prevented me from being more believable to the claim.


I have actually missed the whole Mechanic reveal about yogsloth. I see that you even commented on it but I guess the birthday wish took my attention and I didn't read that paragraph.

Trent I saw and I even thought there might be something bastardy about his role based on the premise of the movie his character is from but then I totally blanked out about it. So yes, Blain isn't the first official reveal after all, but at the time I wrote what it wrote I thought it was.

It wasn't that much of a detection tool rather than a small bit that may have made me believe someone a bit more that they are truthful about their role given that the public domain information only showcased a real live tv personality.


I believe Trent believed what he was saying but we still don't know for a fact there wasn't something bastardy about it - we know for a fact there was a discrepancy with the quotes that has to mean something.


I counted all quotes/mafia flips as killers and added at least one more who is not accounted for (unless JMich David Carradined himself which I highly doubt). Then I counted the non-quotes Neutrals who are 3. I didn't even pay attention to the names but now that you made me go back and count again I saw that docbear who was the murderous woman actually doesn't have quotes.


I mean that the only pure Town flip at the moment is Trent's and we have most people dead already. I kind of doubt we are so lucky or so on-point that we (and the scum too) are missing every Town player in the game. Given how many non-town players we seem to have we were either screwed from the get-go or we have something to balance it out. Trent's role doesn't seem like the main carry especially knowing that there may have been something fishy with his investigations. Bulletproof-ness helps a bit, I guess.


And there are more Town power(s) in play. The game is still going and it's also a role madness.

@flub, you said something about knowing who is Town is critical. What are your thoughts at the moment? And reads.

Apparently your GoogleFu is weak. It is a bit ironic your can't find info on him though. I'll give you this much, he is a fictional character as well as the original title character in his franchise. Any more than that, you'll have to wait for the community elders tomorrow.

Oohhhh, I thought the name sounded familiar :D

American Ninja with Michael Dudikoff. The first movie was actually on TV a few days ago and I didn't even register the connection.

Sorry for the delay, traveling and kind of hoping the game would be over or I would be dead.

It's possible. I don't know if someone is messing with the reveals but obviously something is going on. I thought possibly trent was insane but I don't think that works.

Player, Report , Flip
Hijack, majfa, "mafia"
Sage, town, "town"
Jmich, scum, "town"

Trent never cleared up what he meant about scum, but he did clarify no quotes were involved. I could see trent receiving the report of the player's appearance (w/o the quotes) but having info to recognize those could be misleading based on flips. However, JMich may or may not fit that pattern. If trent got a mafia report on JMich, that might actually work. Otherwise something is funky with trent's role and/or something else is effecting the results.

Sorry about the game becoming a burden, but isn't it better to ask for a sub if you are not able to play properly instead of hoping for being dead? Are you Neutral?

What do you think we have left as alignments? Do you have some reads/opinions on the players that are still alive?

I think either you or HypersomniacLive are scum.

I think cristigale is town.

OK, why?

OK, why?

Because of the reason.

But of course. You are becoming more and more helpful as the game progresses.

Well here's what I have so far....




I shot dreamler on Night One.

I've attempted to shoot cristigale on Night Two and Night Three with no success.

So my guess is one of you two have attempted to kill her as well which is what has interfered with my killing.

You see I'm a little shy.

Wow, is this for real? Like really for real?

If it is, I have a couple of questions for you.


You think she's town, yet tried to kill her? Twice?! Why would you want her dead so badly? If you're town and think she's also town, that is. But none of what you're saying about her and your night-actions sounds like you are.


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Why do you assume that your attempt to kill her failed because of another attempt on her? Wouldn't some form of protection be the first thing to come to mind, more so if you actually think that she's town?


Shy, but apparently trigger happy.



Why do you link trentonlf's flip with a player messing with reveals? Is it that you doubt trentonlf's alignment or the implication of what Hijack"s alignment is?



*raises eyebrow and squints*

I like how from everything he said, you're questioning and commenting the way you do, and are totally overlooking/ignoring something that should stand out to you more than anything else.

*squints some more*

Also interesting that you don't exclude yourself from being the sadistic killer. Would you like to come forward and confess?


I'll let him answer first, but I do have something to comment on this.


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Also have a comment and a question on the bit I highlighted.


I can take a guess at this one.


Is the latter question related to the former? If so, why and what reply do you expect to get?


That makes one of us. I looked up "American Ninja", and realised that I've watched exactly zero of these films.