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Vitek: There was the long post with terms linked in admin thread and it was mentioned there. It means list of top 3 town and top 3 mafia.
I see. OK. What do you think about the whole 3 teams thing? If you consider the option do you find it more likely that it's 3 mafia teams vs a handful of townies or is it 2 mafia vs the Town?

@Yogs, feel free to respond to the same question.
Everybody congratulating the dead players for whatever and I get nothing. Pffff.

Flub, how is my standing on the ladder for MVP at the end of the game?
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dedoporno: I see. OK. What do you think about the whole 3 teams thing? If you consider the option do you find it more likely that it's 3 mafia teams vs a handful of townies or is it 2 mafia vs the Town?

@Yogs, feel free to respond to the same question.
No, bler only thought there were two mafia teams because he was on one of them... and since he always thinks I'm Scum, he was convinced there had to be another. That's my take, anyway.

You'll notice both Kryspyn and bler flipped simply "Mafia". No differentiators.

If there are two different Scum teams this game, then I don't know what the hell.
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dedoporno: If you consider the option do you find it more likely that it's 3 mafia teams vs a handful of townies or is it 2 mafia vs the Town?
Couldn't he je mean the team consists of 3 players and with 2 of them gone it is lost cause?

If not then 2 anti-town teams, 3 would be too much for the low amount of town to handle.
Guys, with 14 players at the beginning of the game, 14/4 = 3.5, should't we also consider the possibility of 4 scum? Just saying. If there are just 3, then nice and easy for town, but I wouldn't dismiss 4.
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dedoporno: I see. OK. What do you think about the whole 3 teams thing? If you consider the option do you find it more likely that it's 3 mafia teams vs a handful of townies or is it 2 mafia vs the Town?

@Yogs, feel free to respond to the same question.
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yogsloth: No, bler only thought there were two mafia teams because he was on one of them... and since he always thinks I'm Scum, he was convinced there had to be another. That's my take, anyway.

You'll notice both Kryspyn and bler flipped simply "Mafia". No differentiators.

If there are two different Scum teams this game, then I don't know what the hell.
So he feels so certain that you're Scum that he formulates the notion of a second Scum Team? Maybe I'm off, but that doesn't seem like him.

Regardless of the presence or absence of two different Scum teams, I still don't know what is happening.
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agentcarr16: So wait... why was bler so desperate for us to off you?
Because he was Scum and I was all over his ass like hot sauce on a taquito.



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agentcarr16: So he feels so certain that you're Scum that he formulates the notion of a second Scum Team? Maybe I'm off, but that doesn't seem like him.

Regardless of the presence or absence of two different Scum teams, I still don't know what is happening.
Come to the Light Side.

We don't have any pie, unfortunately, but we do fight for the cause of righteousness and justice. That's gotta be worth something.
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Vitek: Couldn't he je mean the team consists of 3 players and with 2 of them gone it is lost cause?
Yeaaah, I don't think so.

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bler144: Teams are 3. Do the math.
I've been mafia together with bler trying to drag down the rivals to the abyss with him is exactly what I would expect from mafia bler. We decided to do the very same thing in the all mafia game (we still didn't know everyone is mafia at the time). Funny thing is that it was once again a move against yog. If we weren't going to win we might as well have denied him the victory, considering how nasty he tried to play us. We managed to turn things in our favor and effectively make victory for Yog's team to win but unfortunately we did the dirty work for the other guys.

Anyway, I'm not discarding what he said just because he was mafia.


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yogsloth: You'll notice both Kryspyn and bler flipped simply "Mafia". No differentiators.
Do you recall a game where people flipped "Red Mafia Thug" / "Blue Mafia Strongman" or similar? I don't.


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HijacK: Guys, with 14 players at the beginning of the game, 14/4 = 3.5, should't we also consider the possibility of 4 scum? Just saying. If there are just 3, then nice and easy for town, but I wouldn't dismiss 4.
There might be even more with multiple scum teams. Bler said he's leaving one buddy behind. If Yogs is really mafia I highly doubt he's that buddy. That would suggest that Yog's team was also 3 people for balance.


From the beginning of the game a few people gave me bad gut feelings. One was bler - so far so good. The other was HijacK - can't say for sure yet, but seems a lot less likely now. Dessimu is the piggy whole loves jazz (we haven't made [homo]sexual jokes for quite a while now so I'll change that to "jizz" :P).

vote Dessimu


@trent, what do we do with no lynch?
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dedoporno: Someone at some point spoke about 3x3. That looked weird back then but I put any weight on it. Now it's starts to look like something.
3x3 is a new term (for me at least), where someone asks someone else for top three Town reads and top three Scum reads. Iirc Vitek asked for it (from Hijack?).

And I just can't seem to get back in time to be first on these explanations. Fine. I'm piggybacking anyway.

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Dessimu: Since you hit scum, that sort of proves you to be Town. Because you (if you were scum), killing another scum on Day 1 is as possible as Earth being flat.
Thank you for pointing out exactly why scum Hijack might hit scum.
And Vitek beat me to this one too. Still posting it. Deal with it.

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dedoporno: I see. OK. What do you think about the whole 3 teams thing? If you consider the option do you find it more likely that it's 3 mafia teams vs a handful of townies or is it 2 mafia vs the Town?
...We're considering the idea of two mafia teams now?

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Claims:
Yog is vanilla.
Trent is vanilla. Bus driver is above him in the list.
Hijack is out of shots, so effectively vanilla. No one above him bid for it.
Agent is vanilla. Or a role. Anything but CL, really.

Mafia Mystery Role is dead.
Mafia Bus Driver is dead.
Town Vanilla is dead.

Honestly, I'd really like to try for Flub's special event, maybe a 3 or 4 way tie, just to see how many people can get killed before N1. Anyone else up for it?
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Bookwyrm627: ...We're considering the idea of two mafia teams now?
I'm considering 3 really, but 2 seems less far-fetched. And why wouldn't they be? We do have a possibility of CL. We may even have a cult already.
Holy cow! What an afternoon! Not going to try to post much from my phone. Headed home, should be able to properly catch up, another hour or so.
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dedoporno: @trent, what do we do with no lynch?
You are right, a no lynch really serves no purpose at this time.

Unvote No Lynch
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trentonlf: You are right, a no lynch really serves no purpose at this time.

Unvote No Lynch
What do you think of the whole mess we have going on?
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dedoporno: Do you recall a game where people flipped "Red Mafia Thug" / "Blue Mafia Strongman" or similar? I don't.
Ah, maybe not. I've blocked that other game you mention out of my memory banks. Weren't we named by family? Wasn't there an old game with exactly that - red/blue mafia?

Either way, I suppose technically the idea of multiple Mafia teams is always in... but unless it's obvious like that one game I don't care to ever think about again, I just generally feel like it's waste of time and a distraction to speculate about it. Especially since the entire theory seems to have originated from Scum.

But what do I know? HijacK is already MVP this game, so it almost seems pointless to carry on...
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yogsloth: But what do I know? HijacK is already MVP this game, so it almost seems pointless to carry on...
I know, right? Scumz are doomed.

This being said.

HEY! Where is Chinese Secret Police Video Gamer?