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Telika: Edit :
Ah, and maybe a word on the strange perma-threads of the forum ? (I'm thinking, for instance, of the "Mafia" threads, that were baffling me a bit before I played a couple of them, but maybe this also goes for Puzzlemaster stuff, etc).
i was going to add that last night, but I was dead tired.
I'll do so sometime today.
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Telika: Edit :
Ah, and maybe a word on the strange perma-threads of the forum ? (I'm thinking, for instance, of the "Mafia" threads, that were baffling me a bit before I played a couple of them, but maybe this also goes for Puzzlemaster stuff, etc).
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zeogold: i was going to add that last night, but I was dead tired.
I'll do so sometime today.
Pretending you ever go to bed. For shame.
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zeogold:
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Cavalary: You posted the Gwent bit in two different posts.
That was on purpose due to it being both a current issue and a common thread topic.
I'll remove it from "current issue" once people stop talking about it and remove it from "common thread topic" once Gwent comes out of beta or whatever it's in.
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Cavalary: As for the regional pricing part, it's mainly old users (the few remaining ones, since quite a few gave up on the place since) who are very bothered about it, because GOG initially advertised itself very specifically as standing for two clear, specific things, those being DRM-free and one-world-one-price, even running ads picking on Steam for regional pricing and stressing in their conferences, as late as in the summer of 2013, that they stand firm by both those principles and can and did reject publishers who wanted them to make even the slightest concession from either of them.
So that's how things were between launch and February 2014, when the "good news" moment came and they announced they'll be also adding preorders and AAA titles (initially GOG was named Good Old Games and allowed only games at least 3 years old, priced at no more than $9.99 full price, then came a change when they said they're no longer Good Old Games but simply GOG.com because they removed the 3-year age limit and increased the price limit to $19.99 to allow for new indie games and also for "premium editions" of older AAA titles), removing any pricing limit and also, as a side note at the end, introducing regional pricing, but that they will provide codes for $5.99 and $9.99 games to approximately cover the difference for those who will pay more.
Then there was a huge backlash and after a little while they said they'll "go back to their roots", offer store credit to make up exactly for the amount paid extra for anyone paying over the base price, and judge games asking for regional pricing on a case by case basis and strictly limit it to those new AAA titles that really should be here and can't be obtained in any other way. Only three titles (Age of Wonders 3, Divinity: Original Sin and Witcher 3) were initially intended to fall under this rule. And that sort of mollified some of the critics for a while.
However, in August 2014, along with the redesign, a number of titles that used to be flat priced suddenly became regional priced. And with those floodgates open, more and more titles were added directly regionally priced, soon enough this being the rule for basically any new addition. Also, GOG continued to claim that they fight for flat pricing wherever possible and definitely recommend flat pricing for new entries, only offering the publishers the possibility to choose regional pricing if they feel they must. However, quite a few indie devs who self-published titles here and were bashed for entering them with full regional pricing expressed surprise at this, saying they never knew GOG used to stand for flat pricing and they just accepted the pricing scheme that was offered to them, clearly indicating that GOG's default is full regional pricing and they do nothing to fight for flat... Even if even after a few of those discussions blues again said that's not the case...
Thanks for the info. I'll see if I can condense that and add it in somehow.
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Telika: Speaking of which, maybe explicit the connotations of "good news" within gog's forum culture. It's now a keane-level colloquialism.
I actually don't even know what the whole "good news" thing is myself. I'm assuming it's talking about the announcement of regional pricing...?
Post edited September 29, 2016 by zeogold
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zeogold: What is rep?/What is the whole scandal about rep?
The info there is still wrong, check the following post for details:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/forum_faqs/post13
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zeogold: Who is "Fred"?
What is the Conversational Free-For-All thread?/What happened to the Conversational Free-For-All thread?
Why would any newcomer care about that. It is not like anyone talks about it or anything. It is dead, just leave it be. Why waste anyones time on things that are not even actual or used anymore.

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zeogold: I actually don't even know what the whole "good news" thing is myself. I'm assuming it's talking about the announcement of regional pricing...?
It is about regional pricing and how the news about that started:
https://www.gog.com/news/announcement_big_preorders_launch_day_releases_coming


Also calling out forum members is certainly not going to help the whole situation.
Post edited September 29, 2016 by moonshineshadow
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zeogold: Who is "Fred"?
What is the Conversational Free-For-All thread?/What happened to the Conversational Free-For-All thread?
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moonshineshadow: Why would any newcomer care about that. It is not like anyone talks about it or anything. It is dead, just leave it be. Why waste anyones time on things that are not even actual or used anymore.
The reason is that it was a thread that, for some time, was in the "hot topics" section and still was for a good while after it got locked.
Only now do I realize it's actually been removed from that section. I thought it was still there, hence I figured people might click on it thinking "Oh, this is popular, I should check this out". I suppose I'll take that bit out, then.
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Telika: Speaking of which, maybe explicit the connotations of "good news" within gog's forum culture. It's now a keane-level colloquialism.
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zeogold: I actually don't even know what the whole "good news" thing is myself. I'm assuming it's talking about the announcement of regional pricing...?
I don't remember the history of it, but I don't think only one announcement sufficed for it. It seems that every change that GOG has made, especially when negative or (rightly or wrongly) perceived as such by the community, had been announced with a "good news" spin, as if we were all supposed to rejoice about it. This seems to have added insult to injury quite a few times, not only at the regional pricing occasion, but... don't know, maybe during some galaxy-related changes, I don't remember well. Others might be able to list them.

Anyway, it has become a running joke (with the possible contribution of Futurama). Nowadays, everytime GOG announces "good news", people run for shelter. And alternatively, each new threat on GOG's expected standards is denounced with a sarcastic "good news".
For a second I thought this was one of Bradley's threads, then I realized that's a 'Q'.
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zeogold: I actually don't even know what the whole "good news" thing is myself. I'm assuming it's talking about the announcement of regional pricing...?
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Telika: I don't remember the history of it, but I don't think only one announcement sufficed for it.
For what it's worth, it does go back to this one official thread by TET, then still at GOG. I dug it up:

Announcement: Big Preorders & Launch Day Releases Coming!

That overly euphemistically worded marketing stint to axe the "One world, fair price" core value prompted quite a negative reaction. Since, "good news" is commonly used to cynically comment on official announcements that could possibly or do obviously bring some unpopular change, even if the euphoria in the delivery by staff is designed to make you believe otherwise.
Just as a bump:


Ladies and gentleman,

a reworked version of the Forum FAQ's please let us know what you think about
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Wishbone: Doesn't matter if it's buried or stickied. Newcomers won't read it either way.
But what if we shtickied it? May I humbly suggest we stuff a well-respected, appropriately silly member of our community in a GOG bear costume (with a beer hat built into the head and ears) and get him/her to do live question and answer sessions at Twitch?
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Goodaltgamer: Just as a bump:

Ladies and gentleman,

a reworked version of the Forum FAQ's please let us know what you think about
Quite frankly, I found it a little hard to dance to.
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tinyE: Quite frankly, I found it a little hard to dance to.
You're a terrible dancer as it is.
Although, to be fair, I imagine it isn't that easy to practice with a donkey as a partner.
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zeogold: Although, to be fair, I imagine it isn't that easy to practice with a donkey as a partner.
I hear they're excellent at kickstep.
Post edited October 01, 2016 by Lemon_Curry
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tinyE: Quite frankly, I found it a little hard to dance to.
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zeogold: You're a terrible dancer as it is.
Although, to be fair, I imagine it isn't that easy to practice with a donkey as a partner.
http://i.makeagif.com/media/5-21-2015/BWGA0A.gif
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zeogold: - Candy contains a high amount of sugar, which has been shown to produce mild feelings of euphoria when consumed in sufficient quantities.
It also tends to make people throw up violently and/or feel fat when consumed in sufficient quantities. Maybe add that as a warning.