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MadalinStroe: For Ryzen when it involves gaming, you get great rewards when you overclock just the memory. Most games see +10FPS, when they are CPU bound. Plus memory overclocking is as simple as set and forget. Your friend should have known better.
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goldfishfingers: slight OT: I must admit, i'm like sauvignon1 when it comes to overclocking. So I found this article on RAM overclocking http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ram-overclocking-guide,4693.html and it does sound a bit overwhelming. How are you going to manually overclock your system (which looks BOSS btw!) MadalinStroe?
I'm not sure, :) as I have never overclocked before, which is also why I haven't tried it on my new system, until now. However, because my motherboard is from MSI, I checked the MSI forums, and one of the moderators from there, put up a step by step overclocking guide. I'll follow his guide sometime in the next two weekends, when I have some more time. His guide seems straightforward.

Just for completeness, here's the guide. He uses a MSI Gaming Pro, which is a "gaming" variant of the Tomahawk. They are identical when it comes to the BIOS available for them.

EDIT: The system is very nice, but unfortunately now was the worse time for my old computer to burn out, and force me to buy a new one. Ryzen has just come out and is still a little overpriced, though still cheaper than Intel. Intel's response seems to be to dump all their available CPUs and try to price match AMD's Ryzen. AMD in turn will only then lower the prices. In the coming months there will be a slew of CPU sales, which already makes me fell bad about being forced to buy so soon. Also the RAM prices are at an all time high, as well as the GPU prices, because all the GPUs that are released are quickly bought by cryptocurrency miners.

We are also at a generation change. New CPUs from Intel and AMD will come at the start of 2018, and both companies will release their best processors to outdo the other. Competition is great, and this will again drive CPUs prices as low as possible.

These were the reasons why I bough a bare minimum CPU/GPU. My thoughts were that I'll retire this system, a year from now, once the prices stabilize, and I'd end up using these components to build an emulation exclusive HTPC, which I'll be able to carry with me for some console gaming when I'm away.
Post edited September 06, 2017 by MadalinStroe
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sauvignon1: By the way, I saved a shit-ton of money by forgoing a monitor and instead just planning to use the 23-inch tv I already own. Was that a smart move?
I don't think so because if you are going to spend a shitload of $$$(from my point of view it's a shitload of $$$ anyway) on such PC gaming components, you should have a monitor that can take advantage of the hardware. Can your 23 inch TV give you the maximum amount of FPS you can get from your PC?
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sauvignon1: By the way, I saved a shit-ton of money by forgoing a monitor and instead just planning to use the 23-inch tv I already own. Was that a smart move?
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macuahuitlgog: I don't think so because if you are going to spend a shitload of $$$(from my point of view it's a shitload of $$$ anyway) on such PC gaming components, you should have a monitor that can take advantage of the hardware. Can your 23 inch TV give you the maximum amount of FPS you can get from your PC?
If it can't take full advantage of the computer, then it's something I can live with till I make a bit more money. I just filed a monitor under "non essential" to keep the day 1 cost down.
TY MadalinStroe, you've given me a lot to read and think about since i'm thinking of upgrading my old but trusty computer. My AMD Radeon™ HD 6850 still works fine but i need to upgrade from 4 to 8GB RAM. Thank you for your links and hope your overclocking goes well.

BTW sauvignon1 good luck with your new computer too!
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macuahuitlgog: I don't think so because if you are going to spend a shitload of $$$(from my point of view it's a shitload of $$$ anyway) on such PC gaming components, you should have a monitor that can take advantage of the hardware. Can your 23 inch TV give you the maximum amount of FPS you can get from your PC?
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sauvignon1: If it can't take full advantage of the computer, then it's something I can live with till I make a bit more money. I just filed a monitor under "non essential" to keep the day 1 cost down.
Yeah it's not really something you need ASAP considering you only really need 30 to 60 fps to enjoy a game, anyway. But you should definitely get yourself a good monitor down the road.
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macuahuitlgog: I don't think so because if you are going to spend a shitload of $$$(from my point of view it's a shitload of $$$ anyway) on such PC gaming components, you should have a monitor that can take advantage of the hardware. Can your 23 inch TV give you the maximum amount of FPS you can get from your PC?
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sauvignon1: If it can't take full advantage of the computer, then it's something I can live with till I make a bit more money. I just filed a monitor under "non essential" to keep the day 1 cost down.
It'll get you by, assuming you can make the cable connection (assuming it has HDMI?). To me, 30-60 fps generally works just fine so if your TV will do that...

And yeah, good idea to minimize your initial spending. If it's only so-so then you can fix it later. And if it's fine for the purpose then you saved a fair chunk of money.
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macuahuitlgog: I don't think so because if you are going to spend a shitload of $$$(from my point of view it's a shitload of $$$ anyway) on such PC gaming components, you should have a monitor that can take advantage of the hardware. Can your 23 inch TV give you the maximum amount of FPS you can get from your PC?
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sauvignon1: If it can't take full advantage of the computer, then it's something I can live with till I make a bit more money. I just filed a monitor under "non essential" to keep the day 1 cost down.
I use a TV as a monitor on my two computers. The biggest limitation I have is screen resolution, simply because TVs have larger pixels than monitors. A 23 inch TV is usually 720p, my smaller TV is that size. Specifically this limits my resolution to the native resolution 1360x768.

Do you want high resolution graphics or high refresh rate? If so you will need to get a monitor or larger TV. But if 60Hz 720p is good enough then you really don't need to spend any money on a bigger TV or better monitor.
I just remembered I've already used my tv as a monitor. Couple years back when I was still with my parents, they had to ditch their monitor for some reason and asked if they could use my tv instead. Played a ton of Star
Wars Battlefront II on it, so I guess it really will suit my needs.
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sauvignon1: I just remembered I've already used my tv as a monitor. Couple years back when I was still with my parents, they had to ditch their monitor for some reason and asked if they could use my tv instead. Played a ton of Star
Wars Battlefront II on it, so I guess it really will suit my needs.
If I saw this earlier I'd have recommended some extra budget for 1050Ti and Ryzen 3 1300x, maybe $100 more.

But for now you will definitely need a budget monitor especially when you've got that much intense money for gaming.
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goldfishfingers: TY MadalinStroe, you've given me a lot to read and think about since i'm thinking of upgrading my old but trusty computer. My AMD Radeon™ HD 6850 still works fine but i need to upgrade from 4 to 8GB RAM. Thank you for your links and hope your overclocking goes well.
I'm glad I could be of help. I'm sorry to hear that you need to buy RAM, during this high priced period.

By the way, GPU RAM is also getting a price increase, according to this announcement in August, so if you can find a great deal on a GPU, maybe you should consider getting it now, because the foreseeable future doesn't look too bright. At the moment the 1050 Ti is the best option, having been ignored by the cryptocurrency miners, it still retains an acceptable price/performance ratio.

Thank you for the kind thoughts, I also hope my overclocking adventures end triumphantly. :)
Post edited September 07, 2017 by MadalinStroe
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sauvignon1: If it can't take full advantage of the computer, then it's something I can live with till I make a bit more money. I just filed a monitor under "non essential" to keep the day 1 cost down.
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HereForTheBeer: It'll get you by, assuming you can make the cable connection (assuming it has HDMI?). To me, 30-60 fps generally works just fine so if your TV will do that...

And yeah, good idea to minimize your initial spending. If it's only so-so then you can fix it later. And if it's fine for the purpose then you saved a fair chunk of money.
Awesome buddy,
I also want to build gaming pc, but I am working in the chemical firm that is why I don't have time to build PC.
That is why I decided to bought Origin PC Chronos after reading this article: https://www.reviewsdir.com/best-gaming-pc/ I decided to purchase this pc.