Posted May 19, 2023
flipflapflop
Yes. I'm laughing at YOU!
Registered: Sep 2016
From Philippines
poopshoot
New User
Registered: Dec 2017
From Botswana
Posted May 20, 2023
high rated
The best thing to ensure a good purchase is to verify a review by watching gameplay video and video reviews. Most of these games are very low effort cash grabs and that is extremely obvious in video. They're the equivalent of an "artist" splashing paint on a wall and then writing an essay on what it means. The ones that they've put more work into like WatD are riddled with bugs that video reviewers mention frequently.
Going back to the verified review issue, the pattern I showed in the graph is very strange. Not just on a site where people rarely review a game, but even on those that review frequently. How many people review multiple games by a developer on the same day, even exclusively. Something extremely rare happening to most of a developers reviews on all 15 of their games is way too coincidental to be legitimate. Even more so when there's so much similar activity within very narrow date ranges I also showed in the graph, like how many of these accounts reviewed PolyClassic: Wild on March 15 and how a newly created one reviewed every other one of its 5 reviews on WRG games that same day.
The two biggest issues relevant to reviews on GOG are:
1) How easy it is to manipulate reviews including verified ones is proportional to how much it costs versus how much is earned by doing it. The more legit reviews there are compared to sales, the harder it becomes. People on GOG rarely rate and review games, so it is easy. Most of the reviews for every one of WRG's games aside from We are the Dwarves is from a suspect account. For some games it's all of the reviews. This makes it easy to manipulate ratings and reviews. WatD has the most suspect reviews, but there were even more legit reviews, making it both their most reviewed game here, but also the only one that is less than 50% suspect. Some of WRG's games have 100% suspect reviews. It's still possible to heavily manipulate reviews on other sites, but it's tied to how much it costs versus how much is earned by doing it.
2) GOG doesn't seem to have any automated systems to detect review manipulation, and doesn't seem to care even if it does occur. They've been promoting WRG on the front page over the past month, and continue to do so, including the "WhaleRockGames All Games Bundle" they just released. GOG also regularly promotes games that have been long abandoned by developers, entirely, or only on GOG. There used to have a curator-like system where users could make publicly available lists of games, and these lists would appear on relevant store pages. In addition to putting a user's reviews in one place, and allowing them to recommend similar games, they also used it to show what games where abandoned, what games lacked features including language and OS support that they had elsewhere, and what games were made in a country, and whatever else. Then one day GOG just dropped the feature.
octalot
New User
Registered: Dec 2019
From Austria
Posted May 20, 2023
It's dodgier than that - it was released on the 15th, but all of the individual games' were taken off sale (many on the 14th), which meant the individual games' pages showed the full price without showing the "lowest price in the last 30 days" comparison.
lupineshadow
New User
Registered: Apr 2012
From Japan
Posted June 12, 2023
They're back.
"Daily deal" for Cyberpunk SFX / Dofamine (after the last "daily deal" from 3 days ago, which was: Cyberpunk SFX / Dofamine)
GOG is complicit here - no action, no response, no mechanism to stop these fake reviews.
(Directive (EU) 2019/2161) Section 47:
(47)
Consumers increasingly rely on consumer reviews and endorsements when they make purchasing decisions. Therefore, when traders provide access to consumer reviews of products, they should inform consumers whether processes or procedures are in place to ensure that the published reviews originate from consumers who have actually used or purchased the products. If such processes or procedures are in place, traders should provide information on how the checks are made and provide clear information to consumers on how reviews are processed, for example, if all reviews, either positive or negative, are posted or whether those reviews have been sponsored or influenced by a contractual relationship with a trader. Moreover, it should therefore be considered to be an unfair commercial practice to mislead consumers by stating that reviews of a product were submitted by consumers who actually used or purchased that product when no reasonable and proportionate steps were taken to ensure that they originate from such consumers. Such steps could include technical means to verify the reliability of the person posting a review, for example by requesting information to verify that the consumer has actually used or purchased the product.
"Daily deal" for Cyberpunk SFX / Dofamine (after the last "daily deal" from 3 days ago, which was: Cyberpunk SFX / Dofamine)
GOG is complicit here - no action, no response, no mechanism to stop these fake reviews.
(Directive (EU) 2019/2161) Section 47:
(47)
Consumers increasingly rely on consumer reviews and endorsements when they make purchasing decisions. Therefore, when traders provide access to consumer reviews of products, they should inform consumers whether processes or procedures are in place to ensure that the published reviews originate from consumers who have actually used or purchased the products. If such processes or procedures are in place, traders should provide information on how the checks are made and provide clear information to consumers on how reviews are processed, for example, if all reviews, either positive or negative, are posted or whether those reviews have been sponsored or influenced by a contractual relationship with a trader. Moreover, it should therefore be considered to be an unfair commercial practice to mislead consumers by stating that reviews of a product were submitted by consumers who actually used or purchased that product when no reasonable and proportionate steps were taken to ensure that they originate from such consumers. Such steps could include technical means to verify the reliability of the person posting a review, for example by requesting information to verify that the consumer has actually used or purchased the product.
dnovraD
GOG is not a charity! No Subscriptions!
Registered: Jul 2012
From United States
Posted June 17, 2023
"Daily deal" for Cyberpunk SFX / Dofamine (after the last "daily deal" from 3 days ago, which was: Cyberpunk SFX / Dofamine)
GOG is complicit here - no action, no response, no mechanism to stop these fake reviews.
(Directive (EU) 2019/2161) Section 47:
Oriza-Triznyák
garbage features like achievements.
Registered: Apr 2009
From Other
_Auster_
Sheeps or wolves?
Registered: Nov 2017
From Brazil
Posted July 23, 2023
high rated
If someone uses Ublock Origin active whenever possible and don't want to see those games in search results, I was cooking up some filters yesterday, and those seem pretty good for hiding their titles:
edit: had to break the links because GOG's forum's formatting is still pretty bad. Remove the spaces in the links for the filters to work.
! Blocking Whale Rock's games from GOG
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/the_divine_invasion"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/we_are_the_dwarves"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/cyberpunk_sfx"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/whale_rock_all_games_bundle"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/whale_rock_all_games_bundle"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/neversynth"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/the_wraith_of_the_galaxy"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/whale_rock_games_immersive_puzzles_bundle"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/heavy_burden"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/euphoria_supreme_mechanics"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/cybernetic_fault"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/dofamine"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/synthwave_burnout"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/polyclassic_wild"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/inquisitors_heart_and_soul"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/neuragun"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/space_accident"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/hell_division"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/time_lock_vr_2"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
And yes, it's probably much shorter and reliable to create an userscript/style script that uses GOG's API to filter titles developed and/or published by them. Sadly, I don't know how to make userscripts nor how to deal with API. gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/the_divine_invasion"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/we_are_the_dwarves"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/cyberpunk_sfx"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/whale_rock_all_games_bundle"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/whale_rock_all_games_bundle"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/neversynth"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/the_wraith_of_the_galaxy"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/whale_rock_games_immersive_puzzles_bundle"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/heavy_burden"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/euphoria_supreme_mechanics"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/cybernetic_fault"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/dofamine"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/synthwave_burnout"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/polyclassic_wild"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/inquisitors_heart_and_soul"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/neuragun"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/space_accident"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/hell_division"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
gog.com##a[href="https:// www. gog.com/en/game/time_lock_vr_2"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
edit: had to break the links because GOG's forum's formatting is still pretty bad. Remove the spaces in the links for the filters to work.
Post edited July 23, 2023 by _Auster_
octalot
New User
Registered: Dec 2019
From Austria
Posted August 22, 2023
A few of these have new reviews posted on GOG on August 8th. The review of We Are The Dwarves is a copy of only the "pros" part of a review posted on Steam by Flameshroud. Here it's been labelled as 4 stars, compared to the "not recommended" of the original.
The rest of the original review is this:
cons:
voiceacting is just... wrong. don't expect roudy, booming dwarf voices but a voice that compares to a weak handshake. also alien voices will give you the creeps.
this game is seriously difficult and really tests your patience. 1 mistake and restart the mission. over and over again.
the game is basically a puzzle that you have to do in a certain order or you fail. and doing the same thing over and over again is just not fun.
controls are cluncy, its click and move, but also click on enemy to attack. in the heat of a battle you will click right next of the jumping enemy and the characters just move next to the enemy and stand there. they do not auto-attack, everything is manual. you are constantly babysitting the dwarves and looking after them not drowning themselves. there is hardly any time to use abilities. i really cant say i ♥♥♥♥ the combat. its like keeping 3 fighting toddlers apart.
The same GOG user has also posted a 4 star review of Dofamine, for which the original on Steam by "sb_prime" is "not recommended" and includes "filed for a refund" along with
- footstep sound!!
- music
- bugs
- the exterior graphics is a joke
- game advertised as finished, in game you get text that its in early access
- controlls (no pointer)
The rest of the original review is this:
cons:
voiceacting is just... wrong. don't expect roudy, booming dwarf voices but a voice that compares to a weak handshake. also alien voices will give you the creeps.
this game is seriously difficult and really tests your patience. 1 mistake and restart the mission. over and over again.
the game is basically a puzzle that you have to do in a certain order or you fail. and doing the same thing over and over again is just not fun.
controls are cluncy, its click and move, but also click on enemy to attack. in the heat of a battle you will click right next of the jumping enemy and the characters just move next to the enemy and stand there. they do not auto-attack, everything is manual. you are constantly babysitting the dwarves and looking after them not drowning themselves. there is hardly any time to use abilities. i really cant say i ♥♥♥♥ the combat. its like keeping 3 fighting toddlers apart.
- footstep sound!!
- music
- bugs
- the exterior graphics is a joke
- game advertised as finished, in game you get text that its in early access
- controlls (no pointer)
lupineshadow
New User
Registered: Apr 2012
From Japan
Posted December 22, 2023
Whale Rock "games" bundle on sale again...still no comment or action by GOG.
lupineshadow
New User
Registered: Apr 2012
From Japan
Posted March 20, 2024
Today's deal of the day...Whale Rock "Games" bundle.
Fake reviews, poor quality products, and commercial tie-ins with GOG...wait, are we talking about Whale Rock Games or Amazon? I'm confused now.
Fake reviews, poor quality products, and commercial tie-ins with GOG...wait, are we talking about Whale Rock Games or Amazon? I'm confused now.
goldfishfingers
Goo Goo Gai Pan
Registered: Sep 2017
From Puerto Rico
Posted June 27, 2024
gog.com##a[href=":upward([class="ng-star-inserted]https://www.gog.com/en/game/heavy_burden"]:upward([class="ng-star-inserted"])
Post edited June 27, 2024 by goldfishfingers
lupineshadow
New User
Registered: Apr 2012
From Japan
Posted August 19, 2024
This thread is as relevant as ever, if not more so with the current sale.
Oriza-Triznyák
garbage features like achievements.
Registered: Apr 2009
From Other
Posted March 06, 2025
So when will this phantom developer and its shovelware games finally be removed from Gog ? It's agressively infesting almost every Gog promos since months thanks to the fake game tags .
lupineshadow
New User
Registered: Apr 2012
From Japan
Posted March 06, 2025
I had forgotten about this thread.
Vainamoinen comes across like a GOG employee or maybe a Whale Rock employee. Probably neither but not sure what the agenda is there.
Posts FUD then when presented with a screenshot of duplicated reviews went silent.
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/evidence_whalerockgames_uses_many_fraudulent_reviews/post37
https://www.gog.com/upload/forum/2023/05/0f3a6b2fbb1bd942cb1534faa5dfddc5a3fd37b2.png
Vainamoinen comes across like a GOG employee or maybe a Whale Rock employee. Probably neither but not sure what the agenda is there.
Posts FUD then when presented with a screenshot of duplicated reviews went silent.
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/evidence_whalerockgames_uses_many_fraudulent_reviews/post37
https://www.gog.com/upload/forum/2023/05/0f3a6b2fbb1bd942cb1534faa5dfddc5a3fd37b2.png