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GreasyDogMeat: In the U.S.A. its the far left that are the Islamist supporters/apologists. In Russia is it the opposite?
Far-left? I thought it were neo-liberals, as an extension of destruction of national determination/family as a unit, to weaken the state governments and introducing/funding conflicts/chaos into opposing "classic" governments, to allow higher profits/control of globalist military-corporative segment?

As of Russian far-left, I consider them not far from far-right, at least by methods, and by resulting oppression factor against the population.
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GreasyDogMeat: In the U.S.A. its the far left that are the Islamist supporters/apologists. In Russia is it the opposite?
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Lin545: Far-left? I thought it were neo-liberals, as an extension of destruction of national determination/family as a unit, to weaken the state governments and introducing/funding conflicts/chaos into opposing "classic" governments, to allow higher profits/control of globalist military-corporative segment?

As of Russian far-left, I consider them not far from far-right, at least by methods, and by resulting oppression factor against the population.
what's the video in your user text? i can't watch it. when i try, it sends me to youtube home page with no explanation
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SirPrimalform: What about the lack of evidence that this was even religiously motivated?
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catpower1980: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/berlin-christmas-market-attack-anis-amri-isis-video-pledged-allegiance-milan-suspect-a7492636.html
Interesting, he was described by some who knew him as being a drinker and not especially religious. Must have become radicalised. Still, this article is 14 hours old so my point still stands.
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SirPrimalform: What about the lack of evidence that this was even religiously motivated? There was a lot of shit being thrown around about Islam in this thread and that's not relevant either. It just exposes the prejudice within a lot of the people in this thread, some of whom I am not surprised about and some of whom I am.
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Lin545: Because 99,99% of all terrorist attacks with arabic persons involved them shouting "Alibaba" and being Wahhabi, Salafi or similar Suni Islam extremist branches?

Nah, polish driver did it. Then he got shot by Tunesian, truck stopped and the hero run away. /facepalms
Well now you're just not even trying to hide your racism.
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SirPrimalform: Are you a psychiatrist?
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GreasyDogMeat: I again ask were the 80s and 90s horror shows of racism, sexism and so on? Because that's the generation that is now apparently plagued with "PTSD". Again, there are legitimate situations where people have received true abuse. This generation isn't suffering from that... they're pushing cultural Marxism. Today's generation of snow flakes are an insult to REAL cases of PTSD.
I take that as a no then. Not sure why the 80s or 90s would have to have been a 'horror show' for people to have mental illness.
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SirPrimalform: I take that as a no then. Not sure why the 80s or 90s would have to have been a 'horror show' for people to have mental illness.
Not comprehending the point I take it. We've lived through times where derogatory terms were much more common as well as tougher consequences to actions and behaviors, yet we didn't see this abundance of the 'triggered' type we see today. In fact its become an epidemic on college campuses.

I'm making a very simple point. These people, by and large are not true victims, they are entitled whiners who have embraced cultural Marxism. Much of this also falls on the leftist teachers who also seem to infest college campuses and either tolerate or outright promote this behavior.

Also, a bit of a correction for my point. Those born in the 80s are less of the 'triggered sjw' type and it would actually be more accurate to say those born in the 90s and were high school students in the late 00s and are now in college are that specific type of snowflake. So... apparently the late 90s and 00s were these terrible periods that gave these people PTSD.

Anyway, I wont be surprised if you STILL don't get my point so in the interest of breaking this back and forth (this is the third time I've more or less posted the same response trying to make the above points and I'm beginning to sound insane - doing the same thing over and over and expecting you will get it) let me ask you what your explanation is for the rampant "PTSD" in the college aged snowflakes these days?

EDITED for my terrible grammar and spelling and I'm sure I missed correcting a few mistakes.
Post edited December 24, 2016 by GreasyDogMeat
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SirPrimalform: I take that as a no then. Not sure why the 80s or 90s would have to have been a 'horror show' for people to have mental illness.
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GreasyDogMeat: Not comprehending the point I take it. We've lived through times where derogatory terms were much more common as well as tougher consequences to actions and behaviors, yet we didn't see this abundance of the 'triggered' type we see today. In fact its become an epidemic on college campuses.

I'm making a very simple point. These people, by and large are not true victims, they are entitled whiners who have embraced cultural Marxism. Much of this also falls on the leftist teachers who also seem to infest college campuses and either tolerate or outright promote this behavior.

Also, a bit of a correction for my point. Those born in the 80s are less of the 'triggered sjw' type and it would actually be more accurate to say those born in the 90s and were high school students in the late 00s and are now in college are that specific type of snowflake. So... apparently the late 90s and 00s were these terrible periods that gave these people PTSD.

Anyway, I wont be surprised if you STILL don't get my point so in the interest of breaking this back and forth (this is the third time I've more or less posted the same response trying to make the above points and I'm beginning to sound insane - doing the same thing over and over and expecting you will get it) let me ask you what your explanation is for the rampant "PTSD" in the college aged snowflakes these days?

EDITED for my terrible grammar and spelling and I'm sure I missed correcting a few mistakes.
I don't know, why don't you find one and ask them? I've never met any 'special snowflakes'.
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SirPrimalform: I don't know, why don't you find one and ask them? I've never met any 'special snowflakes'.
It's become fairly apparent you don't know much of anything that's being discussed and just wanted to drop a version of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdSYhwLENvM
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SirPrimalform: Interesting, he was described by some who knew him as being a drinker and not especially religious. Must have become radicalised. Still, this article is 14 hours old so my point still stands.
Must be funny to read your History books, I'll probably learn that the Baader gang were neo-nazis, that the IRA were fighting for the independency of Flanders and that all their members were just heartbroken and hopeless romantics.
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Lin545: Because 99,99% of all terrorist attacks with arabic persons involved them shouting "Alibaba" and being Wahhabi, Salafi or similar Suni Islam extremist branches?

Nah, polish driver did it. Then he got shot by Tunesian, truck stopped and the hero run away. /facepalms
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SirPrimalform: Well now you're just not even trying to hide your racism.
THIS is the problem with people. What is "racist" about that statement?

Deconstructing it, obviously 99,99% is an exaggeration, but the point is true that most attacks of this type are being carried out by radical Muslims. That is the truth.

And here we go with you calling this poster names by calling him "racist"... for speaking the truth. He even qualified it to the extremists. He didn't say "all Muslims". How is this "racist" at all?

Yet another example of someone "playing the race card" to dismiss a legitimate comment...

There is a reason terms like "SJW" or "special snowflake" or the condemnation of "liberals" is becoming more common. It's because this type of accusatory dismissal of discussion seems to be common with those with this particular political bent. You can't make a good argument, so you call people names instead. And the next step is to claim this is somehow "hate speech" and get those who disagree with you booted from the forum with the circular reasoning that you have called them "racist".

The cycle of liberalism: 1) Someone disagrees with you. 2) Call them a racist. 3) Get them banned for hate speech based solely on your claim. 4) Win the argument since they are no longer here.

When the truth is, you, SirPrimalform, are the one "hating" through the use of hateful labels like calling someone a "racist" for seeing things in a different way.
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RWarehall: There is a reason terms like "SJW" or "special snowflake" or the condemnation of "liberals" is becoming more common. It's because this type of accusatory dismissal of discussion seems to be common with those with this particular political bent. You can't make a good argument, so you call people names instead. And the next step is to claim this is somehow "hate speech" and get those who disagree with you booted from the forum with the circular reasoning that you have called them "racist".
Thank you for this, nailed it! SJW (Social Justice Warrior) is what this type refers to themselves as anyway. As someone who is probably obviously more conservative these SJW types have actually given me a bit more respect for liberals.

For example, I can't stand Bill Maher but he makes a lot of sense when discussing Islam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jm3UWawqAc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C66d1XS4Nn4
Post edited December 24, 2016 by GreasyDogMeat
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catpower1980: My newsfeed is blowing up but from what I'm gathering, the suspect travelled through France and was intercepted in the train station of Steso San Giovanni (near Milan). The local police asked for his ID, he pulled out a gun and was subsequently shot down. His fingerprints match the ones discovered in the truck.
Yeah, that's pretty much all we know so far. The thing that's bugging me is that he was wandering around the station in the middle of the night, when public busses are unavailable, so it might be that he was waiting for someone...
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catpower1980: My newsfeed is blowing up but from what I'm gathering, the suspect travelled through France and was intercepted in the train station of Steso San Giovanni (near Milan). The local police asked for his ID, he pulled out a gun and was subsequently shot down. His fingerprints match the ones discovered in the truck.
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Avogadro6: Yeah, that's pretty much all we know so far. The thing that's bugging me is that he was wandering around the station in the middle of the night, when public busses are unavailable, so it might be that he was waiting for someone...
There was mention in one article I read that he had spent time in Italian prison and the police were wondering if he came to Italy for that reason.
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SirPrimalform: Well now you're just not even trying to hide your racism.
Oh, I am extreme racist - I viciously murder all the spiders too. =) Here is completely free advice :)
Who would have thought that I would ever consider Putin a more sane person than a lot of political leaders of the western world.

https://youtu.be/7wDW_3FGAQY
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/25/berlin-attacker-urged-nephew-kill-relative-isil/

According to live news on TV (i opened it after 11 years again to hear about the Russian tragedy and accidentally saw about this scum as well), he even had the audacity to protest against his arrest and even start a philosophical debate with cunning arguments, like being a "scapegoat", even! The cannibals' squeaking gibberish and playing stupid/clueless during border controls, roleplaying the tight-lipped virgins and the "i don't understand you bro" before security personnel without a single document or ID to present whenever they don't own a fake one, when arrested, suddenly become all too clever and talkative, at the same time, just out of the blue!!!

Just run over this piece of shit with a truck, just like his uncle did with those innocent people! And rough up, round up, put this family of inbred apes in the line for the needle! Enough already with this stinking malackery! Send the savage beasts back in their jungle and shitholes; flying and squatting on their violated from their own kin asses, if need be!
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MaGo72: Who would have thought that I would ever consider Putin a more sane person than a lot of political leaders of the western world.

https://youtu.be/7wDW_3FGAQY
Oh yes, of course and everything not standing on some religious agenda is "bad" and should be fightened. The loss of reproductive function for example as evidence is some kind of nonsense-argument. Why should I give birth to a child within a fascists world, full of prejudices and inequality? At last there is even enough evidence that we'll lose our own humanity making ourselves to "things" and "products", which could be sold and discarded according to consumption - consumption by a system, which orders to have a child. Good literature tells us what could come up of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_New_World

And when we ignore this, we are doomed for real. If we hear those arguments from this speech and want them to be realized without any further debate, we are also doomed. Putin is not better than any other leader, only focussed on his advantages and sitting in the chair of power as long as even possible. Hearing the arguments from him? Okay. Declaring them as comprehensible? Not really. Wanting them to be realized? Never. Returning to christian roots? So men and women are not equal for example? Using the bible as complete base for the lifestyle?
Post edited December 27, 2016 by throgh