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Xeshra: Hmmm, you apparently was one of the biggest backers, because your "package" seems pretty big.

So, they did only hand you out the GOG-code and a digital-album-image?

At least the PS5 BD they could have delivered already, because those BDs has been made long ago. Never heard about steelbooks and T-shirt though and the vinyl is a collectors items, always in rare quantities.

Indeed, this is a good example why i do not enjoy to back stuff because if there are big contributions the reward should be secured. I told already: There are a lot of promising talks but in many cases they may not "deliver" the thing which has been promised.

At least a GOG code... some kickstarters may not even deliver this code anymore because they suddenly may say "oh no, we changed our mind, no GOG release anymore but thank you for helping us out for the Steam, Nintendo, Playstation and name me many more releases".

Best is, they simply directly ask Steam, Nintendo or Playstation in order to support them directly. Either they are here for the users or for "those platforms"... their choice. It may sound unfair to many "honest kickstarters" but i simply want to spell out why this entire matter increasingly is becoming more difficult in recent time... we have a "trust issue" and the gamers are not always first.
Oh yeah! My husband and are huge Suikoden fans and put about $1,200 into the kickstarter. We received the digital code probably about 6 days after retail release (major problem), and just very recently they switched the promised printed album cover for a.pdf file. Just got word that the T-shirt is going to be available soon. There were other things too such as a cloth map, etc. None of that has been received at all. I know that some kickstarters are very good...just not this one. I entirely agree with what you are saying.
Post edited October 20, 2024 by RizzoCuoco
I am really sorry for this unfortunate happenings. I still hope those stuff might become delivered in the apparently far future. It surely does not look very professional, but this would not be the first time many of those promises simply "didnt happen", thats life... as a gamer.
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SultanOfSuave: Why is this significant enough to be worthy of mention?
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dtgreene: Because it shows a lack of diversity in the development team.
Oh, okay. Seems like you're just throwing aspersions around.

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GreywolfLord: [...]
I'm for any game that releases on GOG myself. It's an RPG as well, so right up my alley.
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amok: Has gOg accepyed it?

Thir curration is sometimes.... inconsistent.
I doubt that GOG has currently accepted it, because it simply doesn't exist yet - it's not even funded. Here's what the developers have to say on the matter:

"Firstly, we’ve been listening to many of your comments requesting a GOG version of Pathfinder: The Dragon’s Demand. So we’re happy to announce that we’re committing to releasing a GOG version of the game! Our goal is to get it to backers as soon as possible after our Steam release."

In other words, a "commitment" is not a promise that it will come to fruition, just that they will make an attempt to get it on GOG. In fact, for expedience all of the games testing during development will be done on Steam only, with the promise of a later GOG release:

"There is no doubt that we'll eventually bring the game to GOG but we wouldn't be able to handle doing a simultaneous release on both Steam and GOG since creating each store version can take about 2 months of setup and thorough testing. Plus we're offering backers a closed beta of the game, which realistically we can only manage on one storefront at a time."

A plausible future would be one where the game is only released on Steam, or is so delayed to GOG that it hurts sales. So, the original post has a point. The more people that make a song and dance about backing the game for GOG specifically, the more the developers will feel compelled to make it a reality, and the more evidence for potential sales GOG can be presented with.
Anyone ever notice when developers talk about DLC, they already have a core element of the game removed. Only to add it back in, as if to do more for the customers?

When this idea originally came out, it was a solid after thought. Fans rejoiced. Now its just being an asshole to customers as a cash grab. Like selling a car and telling the customer only AFTER they buy it, it has windows that go down.....but to go back up, you buy that feature as an extra.
Nah, i would not compare it to a window that does not "go up" anymore, guess this is to critical (kinda a game breaking bug). It can be compared to selling a totally raw car without any features or equipment; it simply can drive and thats it. If the drivers want any comfort or security-equipment attached, they will have to always pay extra. Even the tires might be very cheap and not be able to drive anywhere they enjoy to go, so they may have to buy a set of new tires as well. It is simply a totally "raw" offer without any required features or equipment in order to drive well, everywhere and safe.

Perhaps in some extreme cases it can be compared to buying a raw Paraglider which got only its "wings", almost nothing else... perhaps not even its harness, so have to buy it all extra as an "DLC" and in the end, for the full experience it will cost almost 3 times the "initial" amount, which is actually the case there, so it is a good comparison. Albeit only a few games are affected by such a extreme "DLC demand", usually those broken by design, because they need to be upgraded for the "real experience".

One of the most broken games is for example "R-Type Final 2", i mean, those who was backers... those old days, because it was a Kickstarter-project (many people may have forgotten) they got a apparently "full version" for a lot of cash and at some later day there has been DLCs added for a higher amount than the old "apparently complete Deluxe Edition". Now there is a new "Ultimate Edition" with all (not even sure) content included for about 125 coins but those who was backing it and any early buyers... they had to pay around 200. Not that the "new levels" even was any huge DLCs... it was just content basically "split apart" from the main game and slowly becoming "updated". It was simply a "level setting" that need to be activated.

The greed is sometimes just insane, but at least a GOG version is provided, so it shall be forgiven.
Post edited October 20, 2024 by Xeshra
Well, it still applies. Because old DLC was a genuine bonus of extra content.Like leather bucket seats in a vehicle. Modern DLC are often large portions of the base game removed. Made into "DLC".

A better example would be self driving cars. Manufacturers had a thought of program packages to be sold like DLC in games. One such package.....the company evades me at the moment; was the "Do Not Drive Over Humans and Animals" package. Not even joking. It was a press outdoor meeting for the car demonstration and the f*ckin car ran people over! The company response was, the dont run people over package wasnt installed. Probably still on youtube.
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GreywolfLord: Dragon's Demand - Lets show them that GOG is nothing to sneer about!

So many kickstarters and game makers are reluctant to make games for GOG...

if you pledge for it, make sure to note in their comments that you do so because you support GOG!!!
Honestly - doesn't look like something, I would want to play (despite being a huge RPG enthusiast).
But aside from that: my KS days are definitely over.

In the end, you usually pay the most, for what's ultimately the worst version of the game.
Better to wait for it to be done, then wait some more, for the most severe bugs to get fixed and the price to get lowered.

Also: if these devs are serious about a GOG release, they will release here anyway (if GOG accepts the game, that is) - and not just because a few dozen backers state in their comments, that they are GOG customers.

Just my two cents.

(I wish them the best of luck, of course)
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Shmacky-McNuts: Like selling a car and telling the customer only AFTER they buy it, it has windows that go down.....but to go back up, you buy that feature as an extra.
Ever watched the movie "Moving", with Richard Pryor?
Your comment had me thinking of that.
Especially of the people in Boise, Idaho; Pryor and his family buy their house from and which say to everything:
"That swimming pool?/those doors?/the kitchen?/etc.,...we'll take that with us when we move out...hahahah!"
And Pryor thinks, they are joking...XD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2nTKkvlBt8&ab_channel=BlackFilmHistory (Movie Clip of arrival at the house)
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Shmacky-McNuts: Like selling a car and telling the customer only AFTER they buy it, it has windows that go down.....but to go back up, you buy that feature as an extra.
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BreOl72: Ever watched the movie "Moving", with Richard Pryor?
Your comment had me thinking of that.
Especially of the people in Boise, Idaho; Pryor and his family buy their house from and which say to everything:
"That swimming pool?/those doors?/the kitchen?/etc.,...we'll take that with us when we move out...hahahah!"
And Pryor thinks, they are joking...XD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2nTKkvlBt8&ab_channel=BlackFilmHistory (Movie Clip of arrival at the house)
Wow....legally that could fly. But, yeah, humor then. Sad reality 2024
Definitely reality. There are actually regions on the world a seller will first remove almost everything from a home and when the buyer is arriving... all they may get is a framework standing on a piece of land. This is somewhat the way how many new games are being sold... simply have to buy all the stuff you need for a proper gameplay "as an addon".

Ultimately, the one big question simply is: What is the "out of the door price" or in other words what is the "Ultimate package price".

Another thing: When R-Type has been sold as an Deluxe, they promised to provide the SEASON PASS with it. Yet they never said that this season pass is not VALID FOR ALL FUTURE CONTENT, but this is usually what we gamers would expect. So they made several new season pass in a row... season pass 2, season pass 3. Finally... the Deluxe with only the first season pass was kinda... a broken mess.

It is just very dirty this entire manipulative game!
Post edited October 20, 2024 by Xeshra