but then again

btw, this is the link to the video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oe1LUJyCCs

really, if your only using your rig to game, do some mild overclocking while your not really mentally equipped to understand overclocking, don't play strategy titles even with a gun pointed at your head, want to be ahead of the action with a gamepass i do wonder.... is there really any point in buying a modern 2 to 3k costing machine?

short version old x box loading times made me laugh ... but that is about it

of course, the feeling of having a 2 or 3k machine standing mightily in a spot its easily discoverable from the entry of your house or nicely tucked away in a game room or corner is almost untouched but really, if your case is nothing special don't even consider using it as a primary attraction unless the worth of the machine is stated quite clearly by the way you set it up, think leds, screensaver, cable management, art, you know what i mean !

So, was the question or statement basically:

"Don't buy a gaming PC, buy a next gen XBox gaming console instead."?

Yeah it is nice that Sony and MS seem to be bringing back the idea of being able to play your existing games of their former consoles. Feels like back in the early 2000s when I bought a Playstation 2 and I could actually play my existing PSX games on it, wheeee! Very nice that they are now reinventing the wheel, while with two earlier generations they broke (more or less) the backwards compatibility (which was part of why I had zero interest in buying e.g. a PS3 or PS4; the other being that more and more games became crossplatform, so there was less and less reason to buy a console for its specific exclusives, unlike back in the PSX and PS2 times when there were far more console exclusives, at least on Sony consoles).

Anyway, for me XBox Whatever or PS5 is not an option because they can't run my existing library of PC games (GOG, Steam, from other sources...), or emulate old gaming systems like Amiga or N64 or Gamecube or you name it.

I like the versatility of (gaming) PCs, consoles still feel like golden cages to me. Also as I am mainly a laptop gamer, the next gen PS5 or XBox has nothing to offer to me as I can't easily pack then into a bag and bring elsewhere, if needed. Plus, the size of those new consoles... they start feeling like desktop PC cases, big and heavy, if that video was of any indication (or was it a prototype, and the final product will be much smaller?). I have no idea what that means. I've never considered my (gaming) PCs to be any kind of "attractions"; quite on the contrary, one of the reasons I prefer laptop gaming is that I can easily hide laptops when someone comes around. Out of sight, out of mind.

That's what I love about my Raspberry Pi4 mini-computer as well: it is a tiny undetectable box sitting in a cupboard in my living room, no one sees it nor hears it (no fans, the only thing making a bit of noise is the external USB HDD connected to it). Yet. it is running 24/7 doing stuff if I need it to do something, and I can easily access it at any point using my TV as a monitor (and using a wireless mouse and keyboard, OR connecting to the Raspberry desktop from another computer using AnyDesk remote desktop software (TeamViewer works too, but I switched to AnyDesk)).

Try THAT on any console LOL ROTFL HO HO HO.

heh,

oh cmon, did you never seen a group of people show of their led casings or their super desktop lay-outs that combine modern edge with some led soft tones with basically the whole room color based on the case or the other way around?

btw, do you feel that if consoles weren't the mass production feat we see today they would be almost as expensive as a mid to high tiered gaming pc?

I'm odd in that way that I don't really personally know any (adult) PC gamers. I've always felt I'm alone in this world that way. You know the movie "I Am Legend"? Well, that times one thousand, that's how I feel as a PC gamer. (The occasional hordes of monsters that I'd encounter in the movie are console gamers.)

One of my colleagues apparently has a PS4 gaming console, but even he doesn't seem to play it that much. He mentioned something about PS5 arriving but said he is not sure he really wants to buy it, not sure if he will use it much.

EDIT: Or did he actually mention at some point he was thinking of playing World of Tanks on his PC (laptop) when the corona lockdown became a thing? Either way, he never seems to understand why I would buy a gaming PC, whenever I mention it.

I also specifically remember him mentioning that he doesn't want to sit in front of a PC (gaming or otherwise) on his spare time at home because he gets enough of that at our work as system administrators. Funny I don't feel the same way... To me that is like saying that if you are working as a professional cook at a restaurant, you never want to make any food at home or on vacation? Just eat cold pizza? Not sure what you are getting at, but if you meant the console userbase was much much smaller than today, would consoles cost more than today?

Most probably yes, as the price is compensated by the game sales from which the console manufacturer takes a cut. If that profit was lower, then probably the console units themselves would have to be somewhat more expensive.

Well yes, i belief both consoles have at least a guaranteed sale of maybe a million units each, and maybe even more

( just checked the numbers, the xbox one sold about 50 million units and the playstation 4 sold double those numbers 100 million + )

Your feeling of adult pc gamer is quite hilarious, i presume you did met a few here of course ;)
Seems also how willing you are to participate in some communities. Wargaming communities for example know large numbers of elder involved which is quite logical, a community such as total war warhammer has a good mixture of both which can be expected, general gaming communities seem flooded with minors

Well, there are like-minded people here, but I meant people I know in real life, face to face.

For all I know, you are all advanced chat-bots. Still very entertaining and convincing though.

EDIT: Now I remember that I used to know one avid PC gamer many years ago! He actually worked in a well-known Finnish game development company. I lost touch with him though, last I read somewhere he lives and works now in Sweden.

EDIT2: Oh, and in my previous workplace where I worked for like a half a year or less, apparently some of my colleagues were PC gamers, Steam users of course (they had never heard of GOG.com).