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Provide_A_Username: -snip-
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dnovraD: Is it really so misguided that valid payees and purchases only be allowed? Even if it's as little as some veracity of a 5.99 purchase?

Well, you know, short of installing things like Anubis to ensue that only legitimate people are logged, but who at GOG has the time or technical knowhow to deploy something so complicated?
Anubis? I was against the old "prove you've bought this game by reading the printed manual", I am against every "guilty (of being fake) until proven" on the device as in real life. For me even the (slightly ironic) "I'm not a robot" is already a bit of a crack in a service to a customer or user. Especially when I'm required to act like an automaton, scanning images while a real automaton evaluates my humanity by imperscrutable parameters and without an easy review of its response. Whatever Anubi is, I don't want my soul to be weighted against a plume.
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Shmacky-McNuts: Its called a Dream list, because you have to be asleep to believe in it.

Not like it actually matters. It shows nothing the publishers care about, in any realistic manner. People claim a variety of interests. Quite often stating one thing, while having no commitment to their claim.

Want to actually weed out the roobs? Every vote costs a donation at or above $5usd.

Lets see how many people prove they care then. If the game ever gets to gog. The donation is deducted from the sum total, including any tax. Plus anything over the cost, goes into the gog wallet.

There. Easy. Weeds out the aholes and actually proves to the publishers they can get their greed sated.
I'm usually all in about a bit of a quarrel when the topic is worth it. Yet I think this approach is provocative for the sake of it
Post edited September 24, 2025 by marcob
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Memecchi: Yeah that's just stupid I'm sorry lol, let's say I'm interested in 25 titles (which is a very conservative number, the moment you start adding games with sequels, franchises and random titles, a list grows fast), that would be a $125 investment towards... maybe getting one or two games in the near future? VERY few people would it

And if people only vote (pay) for a few titles, the perceived interest by publishers would be minimal, it's a lose-lose situation

Really, the dream list is "fine" as it is, it's just a glorified wishlist that GOG can use to push for games
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Shmacky-McNuts: It is not stupid at all. Your comment proves my point.

edit:typo
It proves you're good at saying you're right (that's easy).
The balance between pros and cons is so uneven I can't believe it's a serious proposal.
These points and issues, however, make evident something is superfluous or not working very well: to me, is the dreamlist idea itself. It should be merged with the wishlist with a new voting system. Maybe excluding by time of sign up? I doubt it can be taken very strictly, though, it will hardly be more than a generic survey, it shouldn't be treated as a certified vote imho.
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Shmacky-McNuts: Its called a Dream list, because you have to be asleep to believe in it.

Not like it actually matters. It shows nothing the publishers care about, in any realistic manner. People claim a variety of interests. Quite often stating one thing, while having no commitment to their claim.
You're weirdly bitter about this. The Community Wishlist (and now Dreamlist) has definitely helped GOG know what to what pursue, and myself. Because of the votes on the Wishlist, I helped kickstart the resurrection of Harvester, Starship Titanic, and Betrayer, and helped bring Heroine's Quest (and I think I can take credit for World of Goo, Submarine Titans, The Fall of the Dungeon Guardians, Aquaria, Cyberia 1+2, Graverobber Foundation games, and possibly a few others). I suspect some smaller indies were brought here because of Wishlist votes, like Nelly Coot-a-lot and Ynglet.

The last batch of Ubisoft games (close to a decade ago now) that appeared here had highly-voted (relative to the Wishlist) games like Albion, Archimedean Dynasty, and Anno 1602. I believe I played a role in this by contacting a former Ubisoft employee and suggesting these.

The last Activision release (also long ago) also had mostly games high on the Wishlist.

Pretty sure Stephen Kick resurrected System Shock 2 in part because he saw all the thousands of Wishlist votes.

The Dreamlist was credited with helping resurrect Breath of Fire 4: https://x.com/GOGcom/status/1915692579011649567

I don't think GOG would have brought and owned (before SNEG bought it) the SSI D&D, some Warhammer, and Warloards games if not for the Wishlist votes.

SKALD: Against The Black Priory, Realms of Antiquity, Grimoire: Heralds of the Winged Exemplar, Arabian Nights, Huniepop, Dink Smallwood

Now naturally popular games are popular :P, so GOG will in many instances know what to go after, but it's not totally worthless as you seem to think.

Maybe it was just Civvie 11's video, but I'm not sure the Witchaven games would have been resurrected by SNEG if not for the 1000+ votes.
Post edited September 24, 2025 by tfishell
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marcob: -snop-
Now, there's 3 reasons why I would choose Anubis https://anubis.techaro.lol/
1) The mascot is cute.
2) It is open source.
3) The system is actually a series of scripts and rules to decide on what functionally constitutes a bot, and it does this all automatically, meaning you just have to wait a moment before you get past the gates of the underworld.
Im hardly bitter. I understand the people directing the gaming industry. The big cometitor to gog also knows. That is how the unpleasant behaviors slip through and take hold of the industry, as they have already proven through practice.

But I do believe voting with real intent, is by showing the big publishers people are interested, beyond a passive clickity click and a hope. Gog staff has only to add the pay option along side the normal passive vote. It solves the problem of "can I get a return on this investment?" question, all publishers have.

Unless people have a lapse of sanity and assume gog is a charity lol
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Shmacky-McNuts: Im hardly bitter. I understand the people directing the gaming industry. The big cometitor to gog also knows. That is how the unpleasant behaviors slip through and take hold of the industry, as they have already proven through practice.

But I do believe voting with real intent, is by showing the big publishers people are interested, beyond a passive clickity click and a hope. Gog staff has only to add the pay option along side the normal passive vote. It solves the problem of "can I get a return on this investment?" question, all publishers have.

Unless people have a lapse of sanity and assume gog is a charity lol
While an optional donation can be seen as harmless, if people pay for [random title] and it doesn't get released after months or even years, that would be more work on GOG's already understaffed plate refunding the money

You have *way* too much faith on your plan working (for some reason) that can't see its shortcomings
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marcob: -snop-
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dnovraD: Now, there's 3 reasons why I would choose Anubis https://anubis.techaro.lol/
1) The mascot is cute.
2) It is open source.
3) The system is actually a series of scripts and rules to decide on what functionally constitutes a bot, and it does this all automatically, meaning you just have to wait a moment before you get past the gates of the underworld.
Is it managed by the site owner or by an external service that gets stats and data from the checked site?
The main grudge is this (that's why I don't consider ReCaptcha optimal , not even the new effortless version n.3 "invisible"; add to this that it's very widespread and centalised, offered by a very big corp)
The open source bit is a good point.

P.S.
I didn't say "Snop" !
Post edited September 25, 2025 by marcob
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Shmacky-McNuts: Im hardly bitter. I understand the people directing the gaming industry. The big cometitor to gog also knows. That is how the unpleasant behaviors slip through and take hold of the industry, as they have already proven through practice.

But I do believe voting with real intent, is by showing the big publishers people are interested, beyond a passive clickity click and a hope. Gog staff has only to add the pay option along side the normal passive vote. It solves the problem of "can I get a return on this investment?" question, all publishers have.

Unless people have a lapse of sanity and assume gog is a charity lol
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Memecchi: While an optional donation can be seen as harmless, if people pay for [random title] and it doesn't get released after months or even years, that would be more work on GOG's already understaffed plate refunding the money

You have *way* too much faith on your plan working (for some reason) that can't see its shortcomings
Your opinion is fine. But mine is not invalidated by you, because do not like it.

The idea is sound, regardless of gog being understaffed. Share your ideas about what you think could make a publisher interested. Publisher decision makers are in business for money.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Shmacky-McNuts: The idea is sound, regardless of gog being understaffed. Share your ideas about what you think could make a publisher interested. Publisher decision makers are in business for money.
I already said the dreamlist is "fine" as it is, if anything it's a good way to measure the interest in classic and newer titles, after that it's up to the publisher

There's no need to come up with revolutionary ideas because at the end of the day, GOG operates on a smaller scale