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Well I don't know how to start this , I am owner of nearly 500 games on Steam , nearly 350 games on GOG , 50-60 games on PSN , nearly 200-250 boxed retail copies and 40-50 on Google Play . Total number is probably much more than 1200+ . And when I am saying "Sorry guys Denuvo is crap and you are even not real owner of the game" people are calling me as a "BLOODY PIRATE" and starting to attack me .

I am 25 years old , started to playing games probably while I am 3 years old . This year graduated from my second university . But I am feeling pretty weird . Looks like I am exhausted .

In the past they were some forums with nice people . But now everywhere seems like flooded with trolls . Steam forums , Reddit etc . Everywhere came to my mind . In the old days I played some MMO games . Even I found some of nice friends from there . But in these days even those games seems like died .

There is even a social media thing . Like Facebook , Twitter , Steam chat client etc . But everyone seems acting really weird on there . Even no one seems like to care about me . Actually it must connect people to other people .
But it seems didn't work . Now I am feeling even more alone in these days .

Generally I am sharing news about gaming and technology and dropping my own comments on top of it but nearly no one reading them or sometimes people asking to me why are you sharing all of those ?

Even on a gaming platform ; on Steam , chatting with people about games seems really hard to me . They aren't looks like interested . I even don't know how to surpass those problems . A few times I tried to create my own community but I failed and they are died very long time ago .

So why I am writing all of those on GOG.com ? I am feeling really relaxed on here , feeling like in my home . I met with many people on here and they were always nice to me . Today I wanted to flow something inside of me and bitch about the life . Thanks to the people who read all of them .
Post edited September 07, 2016 by Skysect
This question / problem has been solved by Fairfoximage
I suggest picking up a new hobby for a while. I recommend sleight of hand magic tricks. Why? Because it's fun.
Welcome.. I have the same problem on Steam. I post that I dislike Denuvo and people call me a pirate.. I'm like.. "Hello, you see that mouse icon?!" Most people there think that the only reason to dislike DRM is to pirate the games. I don't get it, and a LOT of the people there get an absurd amount of joy knowing that someone won't download the game for free. I couldn't care less, personally. I feel piracy is wrong, and we'll leave it at that.

I like it here mostly because of the lack of moderation (though that's part of the reason not to like it as well, as it gets an "old west" feel to it. But I'm glad you can get some solace here. I know I do. :D
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Skysect: In the past they were some forums with nice people . But now everywhere seems like flooded with trolls . Steam forums , Reddit etc . Everywhere came to my mind . In the old days I played some MMO games . Even I found some of nice friends from there . But in these days even those games seems like died .
Welcome to the early 21st century, friend. A place where everyone is the "center of his/her own universe and everyone else is just a piece of shit".
I had the same feeling as you, not so many time ago. Back in the early days of internet you could find fascinating people, who would be eager to teach you great new things and learn new things from you as well.

Such an increase in trolling is related to the huge massification of internet access. While knowledge and culture should be open and free to everyone, the fact is that lately the door has been opened to countless hordes of imbeciles, psychos and stupid people who have no life and taste and who like to spend time soiling the www.

Try avoiding the over-crowded online spaces, don't feed the trolls and you'll be ok :)
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paladin181: Most people there think that the only reason to dislike DRM is to pirate the games.
Which is all the more hilarious to me, since the lack of a DRM-free release is nowadays really the best excuse for pirating a game I could think of. I mean, I'm not trying to support piracy here, I'm just saying that while I find pirating games released DRM-free inexcusable, I can't find it within myself to really condemn pirating games that are burdened with DRM. At least doing so proves how pointless DRM is.

Anyway, more to the point- it's the internet. It's usefull, but it's not exactly nice :P This place has deteriorated badly in the recent past, but it's still better than a lot of other sites. It could be damn near great if only GOG cared a little. It's really the only forum I use, I stay away from commenting elsewhere, from any social media- life's to short for all that inane crap.
Post edited September 07, 2016 by Breja
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Skysect: Well I don't know how to start this , I am owner of nearly 500 games on Steam , nearly 350 games on GOG , 50-60 games on PSN , nearly 200-250 boxed retail copies and 40-50 on Google Play . Total number is probably much more than 1200+ . And when I am saying "Sorry guys Denuvo is crap and you are even not real owner of the game" people are calling me as a "BLOODY PIRATE" and starting to attack me .

I am 25 years old , started to playing games probably while I am 3 years old . This year graduated from my second university . But I am feeling pretty weird . Looks like I am exhausted .

In the past they were some forums with nice people . But now everywhere seems like flooded with trolls . Steam forums , Reddit etc . Everywhere came to my mind . In the old days I played some MMO games . Even I found some of nice friends from there . But in these days even those games seems like died .

There is even a social media thing . Like Facebook , Twitter , Steam chat client etc . But everyone seems acting really weird on there . Even no one seems like to care about me . Actually it must connect people to other people .
But it seems didn't work . Now I am feeling even more alone in these days .

Generally I am sharing news about gaming and technology and dropping my own comments on top of it but nearly no one reading them or sometimes people asking to me why are you sharing all of those ?

Even on a gaming platform ; on Steam , chatting with people about games seems really hard to me . They aren't looks like interested . I even don't know how to surpass those problems . A few times I tried to create my own community but I failed and they are died very long time ago .

So why I am writing all of those on GOG.com ? I am feeling really relaxed on here , feeling like in my home . I met with many people on here and they were always nice to me . Today I wanted to flow something inside of me and bitch about the life . Thanks to the people who read all of them .
Skysect,

I know what you mean! I've been gaming since before I learned to eat solid food - it 's an important part of my life.

Unfortunately, the trolls have always been there. I rember early 1200bit/s modem bbs forums that had trolls too. GOG seems to have a much healthier community than most of the others - it would appear that people here self-moderate.

I don't think that there's any solution to community trolling but I do believe that a few good people can create a possitive environment where we can share our experiences and build interesting gaming relationships.
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Skysect: Well I don't know how to start this , I am owner of nearly 500 games on Steam , nearly 350 games on GOG , 50-60 games on PSN , nearly 200-250 boxed retail copies and 40-50 on Google Play . Total number is probably much more than 1200+ . And when I am saying "Sorry guys Denuvo is crap and you are even not real owner of the game" people are calling me as a "BLOODY PIRATE" and starting to attack me .
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Interesting. I observed that behaviour before Denuvo was a thing with just steam, seeing the same arguments and reading the same "no steam = pirate" answer (regardless of it being a steam exclusive or not). Pity these ppl, when they previously cleaned their nose they blew to hard and bits of brains came out with it.

On the bright side: They also have a higher chance to Darwin themself out of existence :D
This question keeps popping up, but never seems to get answered - why Doesn't Gog allow volunteer moderators in the forums?
They keep twitch channel operational voluntarily (they do get some games to post about though), why should there be a difference?

And yes, the Gog forums is probably the main place I hang in terms of community offerings throughout the web,
And even past its decline in recent years, I still find it consist mainly of the best (large) group of people, forum and pm vise.
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Skysect: I am 25 years old , started to playing games probably while I am 3 years old . This year graduated from my second university . But I am feeling pretty weird . Looks like I am exhausted .
I am very young as a gamer.
I am 24 and started to play games full time in 2010.
So I am a 6yo gamer. ;)
Never got a chance to play any before that.
But when I started I didn't stopped.
Playing and finishing games everyday. Playing and replaying and replaying games again.
Now I feel like I need more games.
I can always go for torrents but I stopped piracy 2-3 years ago.
Right after joining gog and playing Torchlight!!!

Well I don't have a life because I am too busy in trying to beat games. :P
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Skysect: Well I don't know how to start this , I am owner of nearly 500 games on Steam , nearly 350 games on GOG , 50-60 games on PSN , nearly 200-250 boxed retail copies and 40-50 on Google Play . Total number is probably much more than 1200+ . And when I am saying "Sorry guys Denuvo is crap and you are even not real owner of the game" people are calling me as a "BLOODY PIRATE" and starting to attack me .
I own games on 3-4 places but those are for kids who visit my home.
For personal use GOG and Humble DRM-Free games are always first choice.

Well when there is a game with DRM, you get three options.
Either play it with DRM or wait for a crack and use it on your game or wait for it to go on DRM-free release.
I think it's not wrong in using crack for a game you paid for.
Specially if it's DRM-stopping you to enjoy it.
I use crack with my copy of Arkham Asylum because I don't want to ruin my game disc.
Best thing to do IMHO is look at every forum, mailing list, social network and other communication mechanism you're on at any given time and ask yourself what the real reasons are that you're there. They're probably good I imagine as that's why we usually join up or participate in something online. Next is to ask yourself if the given forum/etc. is providing you with what you are there for, what you signed up for so to speak, and if it is fulfilling that need or desire. More likely than not you will not have yes/no black/white answers but rather a little bit of both. Just figure out where the slider is on a given forum between "meets my needs for being here" and "doesn't meet my needs, makes me upset for $reasons" and then trim the list of the ones that you find the least fulfilling. The more you cut out, the more you have time to spend on the remaining ones which are providing you more of what you're looking for.

There are a lot of trolls and hostile conflictual people online that are impossible to completely escape entirely, but a lot of those situations can be dodged by avoiding the most toxic environments out there. Sometimes the best response to toxicity is no response, especially if doing so would make you feel more toxicity doing so or in the fallout that happens after.

I've done this over the years many times and ended up lopping off dozens of mailing lists, IRC channels, web forums and social networks. I'm still on a variety of them but the ones that were all mostly bad vibes are mostly in the dust or I rarely pay attention to them and online peace of mind is all the better for it.
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Skysect: Well I don't know how to start this , I am owner of nearly 500 games on Steam , nearly 350 games on GOG , 50-60 games on PSN , nearly 200-250 boxed retail copies and 40-50 on Google Play . Total number is probably much more than 1200+ . And when I am saying "Sorry guys Denuvo is crap and you are even not real owner of the game" people are calling me as a "BLOODY PIRATE" and starting to attack me .
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anothername: Interesting. I observed that behaviour before Denuvo was a thing with just steam, seeing the same arguments and reading the same "no steam = pirate" answer (regardless of it being a steam exclusive or not). Pity these ppl, when they previously cleaned their nose they blew to hard and bits of brains came out with it.

On the bright side: They also have a higher chance to Darwin themself out of existence :D
In my case people (on the interwebs) seemed to think I handed in my "GAMER" card for not wanting to be slaved to the "Steam" system (pre-Den). Even though I've been playing Vidya near religiously since the 1970's.

I wait for a game to be DRM-free then I buy it for my use only.
I must be the worst pirate ever.

:P
That is one of the reasons I only check GOG forums since long time. Other places usually end up stressing me and I dont have enough time for that.
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Fairfox: I agree with teh online communities thang; nobody (/websites/companies) has really 'caught up' yet in regards to dealing with teh situation (even Twitter and teh like); s'all verrr new, still, in teh grand scheme of things. S'just a shame GOGie is beginning to lag behind nao with teh toxic influx. Heck, can't even update avatars without there being issues.
Sometimes your posts are hard to read Fairfox, but I generally agree with you.

But another issue is Steam has created a gaming culture that accepts DRM, as I frequently hear in discussions about DRM vs DRM Free "Steam is DRM that WORKS" which is a bit painful to hear, just because it works doesn't mean its good for the consumer in the long run as nothing lasts forever, but that is also mixing the issue with the nature of online retailing.

Thanks to this permissive culture about DRM, companies are able to get away with more, and do more invasive things.

Lets also not forget that pirates are going to pirate for the sake pirating and nothing more.
When I click in something titled "Deep Inside of me" I expect something else entirely. :/
Post edited September 07, 2016 by neurasthenya