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hedwards: Personally, I look forward to the future where moderation can be double checked via some form of AI to maintain a more level playing field for the effects of moderation.
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dtgreene: Unfortunately, AI can, and is likely to be, biased. Remember the time an AI was unleashed on Twitter and it learned to be racist?
So, what? If we've learned anything from the last several decades it's that things said on the internet shouldn't be taken particularly seriously. And allowing people to whine about penny ante bullshit doesn't do anything positive. If somebody doesn't like the stereotypes people are applying, they have the option of just not reinforcing them. Worked brilliantly for so many groups in the US over the previous couple centuries. To the point where people have to be reminded that the Irish were referred to by mostly the same stereotypes as blacks.

Unleashing an AI that responds to random tweets is a lot harder than scanning for insulting language, bad links and the like. Of course, it's going to take time to make it work well, but the racism angle is unlikely to be worse than the current situation where people are losing their jobs over mere allegations and small jokes heard by people who lack a sense of humor.
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Tarm: Yeah well groupthink comes with moderation if people aren't brave enough to push limits and also that's up to the moderator to balance. A wide or narrow forum basically.
That's also why people tend to get cranky and stiff minded. It's how we react to rules. Conformity kills dissent.
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hedwards: To a large extent yes, but it doesn't need to be automatic. A lot of this comes down to not having specific subfora for certain common topics, but some of it also comes from inadequate rules.

The rules of a site don't necessarily need to be super-strict to prevent things from going to hell or having excessive group think, the problem tends to be in how good the moderators are at separating their feelings from their work and to what degree the people posting are trying to have a functioning community.
Yes, yes, yes, yes and yes.

Root cause as I see it is no basic community moderation (Simply someone comes in and points a finger/hand/arm/sihlouette in the direction they want the community to be heading.) when the forum got bigger with a large influx of new people. Then that chaos got cemented and created a new community. Communities are people and the internet is much about communication between people. Word got spread and well GOG got the community we had some time ago.
I know I'm stating the obvious and it's been heard way too many times but that's not why we ended up where we are. We did that because GOG/moderators basically added rules that would have worked back in the day. Those people that made that community have mostly left. So yeah the forum got kinda bland when the colourful people that had great voices got a chance to say something after they had left. :P
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Tarm: Greetings.

Huh. Interesting crap posts have truly died...
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richlind33: I could post a gif from Pink Flamingos, if you're interested. ;p
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Post edited May 19, 2018 by Tarm