added Rise of the Triad: The Hunt Begins (Deluxe Edition)

"This deluxe edition includes the ten single-player and eight multi-player levels of the original shareware version of Rise of the Triad, as well as six new levels (three single-player and three multiplayer ones) exclusive to this release."

I find it really odd that this one was never mentioned before. "The HUNT Begins is a separate episode that serves as a prequel to the retail game" (mobygames). I hope it will end up here eventually

If you're including these:
"The Dark Eye / Das Schwarze Auge universe:
The Dark Eye: Drakensang - http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/the_dark_eye_drakensang
Drakensang: The River of Time - http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/drakensang_the_river_of_time
Drakensang: Phileasson's Secret - http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/drakensang_phileassons_secret"

Because they're based on the same tabletop RPG system as Realms of Arkadia then why not include all the other D&D /AD&D games including SSI Gold box as being the same 'series' as the infinity engine games that are here?

Also there are a couple of other games based on Judge Dredd out there:

http://www.mobygames.com/game/judge-dredd
http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/judge-dredd-pinball

or if you expand it to games based on 2000AD Characters, there's at least the Rouge Trooper game
(which is actually closer to being in the same 'series' to the Dredd game that's here than those other 2 I just posted as it was made by Rebellion)

No, that would be too remote. The reason I've put Dark Eye games was not Realms of Arkania. It was this: http://www.gog.com/gamecard/the_dark_eye_chains_of_satinav
As for the Judge Dredd games, they are not considered a series on mobygames. But I'm open to more comments about them.

Actually it is an interesting discussion. So how about let's say Batman: Arkham Asylum is released. Should we put http://www.mobygames.com/game/batman-forever_ or not? that also answers the Judge Dredd issue.

Or another example is star wars. If Kotor is released, should we put KOTOR 2 or all the star wars games ever released? Actually the connection is more obvious with star wars games, since they are all created by the same company.

no mention of space hulk votba, scrap it all and start again :(


wait nvm i didnt read the thread fully :) but still this needs to come to gog..

Holy DOS release! I totally missed that back in the day.

More on the topic, it's certainly a good discussion. On one hand it's a completionist list, so once the doors are opened for the first game of a franchise, even the more obscure and forgotten ones will be considered for some of us as possible for a release here. On the other, some franchises are way big and generic, and could be labeled as "fragmented" into different subseries or even spinoffs, i.e. the rabbids from Rayman, KOTOR which is set thousands of years before the main SW line-up, the games based on movies or comics that follow the script and the ones with their own independent stories within the IP...

I would go with the subseries line, one at a time. Otherwise the list would implode the day LucasArts joined GOG ;)

On the other hand, I've already put all the spin-offs there. For example, all the titles under Might and Magic are basically spin-offs. Another example is Prince of Persia series, where the classic Prince of Persia titles and Prince of Persia 3D are all included within the series. Same goes for SimCopter (a simcity spin-off), Warlords series, some of the worms games. So maybe it is fair to put Judge Dredd games as well?

I still wouldn't go too remote though, such as adding GoldBox titles in the absence of any GoldBox game just because it shares the same world/setting with some other game.

added King's Quest I: Quest for the Crown VGA
added King's Quest II: Romancing The Stones (King's Quest II remake)
added King's Quest III: To Heir Is Human (remake)
added King's Quest IV: Perils of Rosella (AGI version)
added King's Quest V: Abscense makes the Heart Go Yonder (floppy version, VGA)
added Quest for Glory II: Trial by Fire (remake)
added Space Quest IV: Roger Wilco and the Time Rippers (floppy version)
added voting link to Space Quest VI: The Spinal Frontier Interactive Demo

GOG includes those levels. As well as Extreme RoTT.

Would you send me a link?

Uh, well, I own it here. But on the game page for RoTT is mentions the extra levels.

http://www.gog.com/gamecard/rise_of_the_triad__dark_war

They don't specifically mention it includes Extreme RoTT, but you can select it in the setup.exe.

Edit: In the readme for the extra levels.

The levels in this directory were originally created for various reasons,
and they will be detailed below. If you wish to use these levels in the
game, you need to copy them to your game directory and run them by using
the "Use Modified Stuff" option of the ROTT setup program.

1) Huntbgn2.rtl / Huntbgn2.rtc
Back in early 1995 when Rise of the Triad was a new game, there was a
special shareware version of the game produced entitled "Rise of the
Triad: The HUNT Begins Deluxe Edition". The game itself was the same,
the only difference between the regular shareware and the deluxe was the
inclusion of 6 additional levels (3 regular & 3 Comm-bat) in the deluxe
version that never appeared in any other variant of the game. The six
levels are entitled:

Regular : Prelude to a Kill, Jumpin Jehoshapat, & Gadzooks!
Comm-Bat: The Siege, The Box, Rise & Tide

All 6 levels were designed by Tom Hall, and you can use these either on
your registered Rise of the Triad game, or on the shareware edition.
The other levels in these level packs are the existing shareware levels
- these extras are in addition to the shareware levels that are already
in your game.

2) ohio.rtc

There are 4 levels in here by Tom Hall & Joe Siegler. Tom & Joe worked
on the original ROTT project with 2 other designers. Tom & Joe also did
all of the levels in Extreme ROTT. Now, these 4 levels are done for
BloodFest 96, a contest that was held in Ohio in Feb 1996.

The Four Levels:

1) But This Goes to 11 (Thanks to Spinal Tap)
2) Walloper (In this level, you Hop over Walls. WallHopper. :) )
3) Dwayne Goes 48 (Thanks to Dwango's Dwango 4 Level 8 for inspiration)
4) The X-Factor (Named after the "then current" Iron Maiden Album)

Joe did 'Dwayne Goes 48', and 'The X-Factor', Tom did 'But This Goes to
11,' as well as 'Walloper'.

3) uaspray.rtl

A goofy little level by Joe Siegler done in 2000 called "You and Spray".
It has multiple NME's in it, so the level will most likely crash your
copy of ROTT. Just done as an excercise to see what would happen if you
made a map with a single room that took up the entire map grid. :)

4) wolf3d.rtl

A level done by Joe Siegler which clones precisely down to the exact
placement of objects the level geography of the original Wolfenstein
3D's Episode 1 Level 1. There are a few extra things added to the
level, but the original level geography is correct. ALso a small
portion of the hidden level in Wolf3D Episode 1 is also in here. :)

5) rejects.rtc

During the original development of Rise of the Triad, many MANY Comm-Bat
levels were created. Far too many. In fact, several of them had to be
thrown out for various reasons. This level pack is a compilation of all
of our "Reject" levels. There are 21 levels in this pack. This is a
listing of all the level designers. All levels in this pack (with the
exception of the "This Causes an Error" level were originally created
for use in Rise of the Triad. For whatever reason, these levels were
not used, and since they were just lying around, we figured we'd just
throw them out in the public for free for whomever wanted to play them!
Here's a list of all the levels in this pack, who designed them, and
notes on a few of them.

01) Use the Fish -> Designed by Joe Selinske
Fans of the Keen IV game might recognize this level. If you rename this
file to rejects.rtl, and look and use the map cheat to see the whole map,
you should recognize this map. :)

02) Wan Fife -> Designed by Joe Selinske
Fans of id Software's Doom might recognize this level. Thanks to John
Romero of id Software for the inspiration for this level.

03) The Pound -> Designed by Tom Hall
This level is spent almost entirely in Dog mode.

04) Valhalla -> Designed by Tom Hall
The idea behind this level is to knock the other guy off the side of the
level with a Godball. Woe be the person who isn't in God mode.

05) Aztec Paramecium -> Designed by Joe Selinske

06) Death Box -> Designed by Tom Hall
For those people who complain about large levels. :)

07) Battle Squid -> Designed by Joe Selinske

08) Great Wally -> Designed by Tom Hall & Joe Selinske

09) Lumpy's Delight -> Designed by Joe Selinske

10) Pillar Killers -> Designed by Joe Selinske

11) Red Rum! Red Rum! -> Designed by Joe Selinske

12) Barreling Down -> Designed by Tom Hall & Joe Selinske

13) Spears of Density -> Designed by Joe Selinske

14) Balconexus -> Designed by Joe Selinske

15) Spinblade Runner -> Designed by Tom Hall & Joe Selinske

16) Five Windows -> Designed by Joe Selinske

17) Storm's Eye -> Designed by Tom Hall & Joe Selinske

18) Skylands -> Designed by Joe Selinske

19) Speed -> Designed by Joe Selinske

20) Twin Falls -> Designed by Joe Selinske

21) This Causes an Error! -> Designed by Joe Siegler
This level was thrown on at the last second. If you rename this
file to REJECTS.RTL, and load it up as a regular level file, and not
a Comm-Bat level file, you'll have some fun in this level. Keep in mind
that this level is a joke, and the error created is intentional.

-----------------------------

In addition the main game install will the following level packs. These
files are already in your installed game directory (provided you've installed
the game before reading this <g>)

Main Install Levels:

1) huntbgin.rtl / huntbgin.rtc
These are the original shareware level data files.

2) darkwar.rtl / darkwar.rtc
These are the original registered version level data files.

3) rottcd.rtc
This was a special CommBat Level pack that shipped with the original
CD version of the game which had some extra levels the darkwar.rtc did not.

4) rottsite.rtc
This was a special CommBat Level pack that shipped with the original
Site License CD version of the game which had some extra levels that no
other version of the game had.

5) extreme.rtl
This is the level pack that was originally part of the Extreme ROTT
Add-on CD.

the way I understand it, GOG version includes all the levels from http://www.mobygames.com/game/rise-of-the-triad-the-hunt-begins.

But it does not contain any of the levels exclusive to http://www.mobygames.com/game/rise-of-the-triad-the-hunt-begins-deluxe-edition. (basically 6 more levels)?

Sorry, check my edit. The six levels should be "Huntbgn2.rtl / Huntbgn2.rtc"

Don't you think those are the levels in http://www.mobygames.com/game/rise-of-the-triad-the-hunt-begins?

Here is the description of Deluxe Edition: "This deluxe edition includes the ten single-player and eight multi-player levels of the original shareware version of Rise of the Triad, as well as six new levels (three single-player and three multiplayer ones) exclusive to this release."

Not that I am sure of what is included and what is not. I just wanna make clear that The Hunt Begins (Deluxe Edition) has missions that The Hunt Begins (original shareware) doesn't have.

GOG includes both.

huntbgin.rtl / huntbgin.rtc are the original shareware level data files.

Huntbgn2.rtl / Huntbgn2.rtc are the deluxe exclusive levels.