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First, it's well known that Bloomberg uses its articles to manipulate the stock market, so I wouldn't be surprised if this endless campaign against CD Projekt RED is part of some internal directive.

Second, if they change the top management we can expect a total drift away from their basic principles, and then GOG could be really turned into a Humble Bundle clone in the eagerness to collect a few extra cents as fast as possible.
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Time4Tea: I don't think any of us really know what pressures led to the decision to rush the launch.
Er... MONEY!
Well, in the highly unlikely case that Marcin Iwiński is sacked or walks on its own volition GoG would be truly fucked. He's the main driving force behind and for GoG to have been established in the first place, as far as I understand.
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Time4Tea: There is a saying: "Never put down to malice what can be adequately explained by simple incompetence."
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borisburke: The difference between the trailers/promos and the actual gameplay experience is so stark that I have difficulty believing it was entirely accidental/unexpected. Never underestimate the power of human greed.

"I don't care if I fuck over one person or one million, just so long as I get my luxury yacht." - It's the tory way.
Oh, I could name quite a few games who massively failed to live up to what the game companies said it would be;
"Spore" comes to mind.
But don't let logic and reality interfere with a good conspiracy theory.
Post edited June 12, 2021 by dudalb
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Alexim: First, it's well known that Bloomberg uses its articles to manipulate the stock market, so I wouldn't be surprised if this endless campaign against CD Projekt RED is part of some internal directive.
You should probably say "allegedly" when you say things like that. Just in case anyone is feeling litigious.
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Swedrami: Well, in the highly unlikely case that Marcin Iwiński is sacked or walks on its own volition GoG would be truly fucked. He's the main driving force behind and for GoG to have been established in the first place, as far as I understand.
There are plenty of big name companies that fired their founders. Other people high in the corporate rankings are more than willing to take up the job and high compensation: Apple, Twitter, Uber, Groupon, Yahoo, Tesla, Etsy, Blackberry, etc. New management can revitalize their corporations and put them onto a better path to profitability.
Post edited June 12, 2021 by Canuck_Cat
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dudalb: ...don't let logic and reality interfere with a good conspiracy theory.
I clearly said "I have difficulty believing". If you think that's some sort of conspiracy, you're a fool or a troll, which is it?
Watched some videos on this earlier...

... just a sad situation...

... all stemming from one of the most anticipated games of all time.

It seems the culture that enabled some great indies -- and had a fair amount of government support -- doesn't seem compatible with AAA production and CDPR's current system of finances and governance. But who really knows (unless you're inside)... Witcher 3 came out of that system and was fantastic.

... just too bad.

I hope CDPR can "right the ship" and rebuild the brand.
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dudalb: ...don't let logic and reality interfere with a good conspiracy theory.
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borisburke: I clearly said "I have difficulty believing". If you think that's some sort of conspiracy, you're a fool or a troll, which is it?
You do know that I have diffucluty beleiving ia a standard line with conspiracy theorists?

I think it is a lot more probably that CD Project simply screwed up rather then they delivertly sabotaged a game they spend a huge amount of money on and the failure of which endangers the company?
And I repoeat, there is along list of big games that totally failed to live up to the hype. Aside from Spore, there is Hellgat London which actually sank the company making it. And that is just two.
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skeletonbow: Good to see they've protected the company by being taken over by some suits that don't even play video games and would probably want to add loot crates to everything.
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rjbuffchix: As far as I'm concerned, CDPR are "suits" already by virtue of going public alone (since their actions will be beholden to the "suits" you mention). The fact that they take additional actions such as apparently designing Cyberpunk around an upcoming multiplayer where "naturally, there will be microtransactions", pushing Galaxy at all costs over offline backup installers that some users probably aren't aware even exist, etc, are just compounding the issue.

I don't care what particular person is in charge. I want the "corporate" mentality to be kicked out and replaced with a pro-consumer mentality that comes with a hardline DRM-free-only stance. I also believe this would, perhaps ironically, lead GOG to greater success since they would then have a clearly unique niche for customers not being served, instead of trying to hopelessly compete with the big guys in the industry over their customers.
I blame Witcher 3's success for all this.

We gave CDPR too much money that they've become greedy.
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dudalb: I think it is a lot more probably that CD Project simply screwed up rather then they delivertly sabotaged a game they spend a huge amount of money on and the failure of which endangers the company?
And I repoeat, there is along list of big games that totally failed to live up to the hype. Aside from Spore, there is Hellgat London which actually sank the company making it. And that is just two.
I agree with you. To me, it looks like a classic middle management/project team failure. I've seen it so many times in business; top management want a project to succeed. The guys on the ground raise issues, say there are bugs, report things to their managers. Middle management don't want to deliver bad news to their bosses, so say things are on target. If nobody realises what's going on, the project goes live with big issues.

People like to blame top management for these things, but as ever, it's not that simple - and it's never as exciting to blame a faceless middle manager.
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pds41: I agree with you. To me, it looks like a classic middle management/project team failure. I've seen it so many times in business; top management want a project to succeed. The guys on the ground raise issues, say there are bugs, report things to their managers. Middle management don't want to deliver bad news to their bosses, so say things are on target. If nobody realises what's going on, the project goes live with big issues.

People like to blame top management for these things, but as ever, it's not that simple - and it's never as exciting to blame a faceless middle manager.
Might be middle management complacency, but the final responsibility is always with top executives. If middle management failed, then top management failed to create a work environment of transparency and integrity. There are no excuses when they bring in millions of revenue every year and can afford some burn to ensure the final product came out with a minimum standard of quality.
Post edited June 12, 2021 by Canuck_Cat
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pds41: I agree with you. To me, it looks like a classic middle management/project team failure. I've seen it so many times in business; top management want a project to succeed. The guys on the ground raise issues, say there are bugs, report things to their managers. Middle management don't want to deliver bad news to their bosses, so say things are on target. If nobody realises what's going on, the project goes live with big issues.

People like to blame top management for these things, but as ever, it's not that simple - and it's never as exciting to blame a faceless middle manager.
Some people say Peter Principle, but I prefer to believe in the Dilbert Principle, where middle managers are chaff meant to act as a dampener/absorber for bad ideas, rather than a projector.
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Canuck_Cat: Might be middle management complacency, but the final responsibility is always with top executives. If middle management failed, then top management failed to create a work environment of transparency and integrity. There are no excuses when they bring in millions of revenue every year and can afford some burn to ensure the final product came out with a minimum standard of quality.
I half agree. It's not middle management complacency, more that middle management don't want to deliver bad news.
The buck stops at top level management yes, but I've seen this too many times in too many organisations to just blame senior executives. Even in the most open and honest organisations with great two way communication between senior and junior management, people don't communicate bad news effectively.

There are a number of recent law cases in the UK (in particular the Barclays one brought by the SFO on the Qatari investment) that held that large companies are too complex to have a single directing mind, effectively holding that the senior directors aren't responsible for all acts committed by the company). So, I'd say yes, build an environment of transparency and integrity, but that's not enough to ensure project success, and it's too simplistic to just blame the directors.
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Canuck_Cat: There are plenty of big name companies that fired their founders. Other people high in the corporate rankings are more than willing to take up the job and high compensation: Apple, Twitter, Uber, Groupon, Yahoo, Tesla, Etsy, Blackberry, etc. New management can revitalize their corporations and put them onto a better path to profitability.
And there are plenty of situations where the reverse is also true; or where the founders handed things off.

Bill Gates barely works at Microsoft anymore, Steve Jobs was exiled twice, Michel Dell boomeranged. And there's just disaster conga lines like Seaworld.