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About a month ago, it seemd like Bungie was targeting YoutYube createors left right and centre issuing takedown notives to players making Destiny 2 streams. The whole carnuffle lead to a lot of community upproar and anger, specificly since several YouTubers had previously had Bungeis permission to stream the content. And it became more intersting when Bungie's own YouTube account was also issued a takedown notice from...well... Bungie.

Turend out that the takedown notice was false. also tutned downa that it is very easy to make fal;se takedown requests on YouTube, all you need is a google email, and you can issue any takedown request you want, there are no controls. While it is easy to make a takdown request, for a creator it is almost impossible to get in contact with YouTube (google) to defend themselves from any claims of copyright breaches. Normally this only applies to single YouTubers / Streamers, but now it happened to Bungie.

The problem is that when this happens, the only course of action you have is to sue. For normal people this is not really an option, it needs a bit of mony and resources to do so. You also need to show evidence of for example damages. But now it happened to Bungie, not only do they have the resources, but the legal team to show tp show the damages donw.

Bungie is not sui9ng Google (as owners of YouTube), but going after the people making the false takedown claims. The problem is, off course, that they are anonymous and Google will not give their identity, or any way of revealing their identity. So part of the law suite is to make Google reveal the identity of the people behind the claims.

Howver, this can be a quite big case. This has been a large problem for small YouTube creators for a while now, especially game streamers. It may be forcing Google to have checks and improve the system for content creators, but as this is only in the beginning - time will tell. I will be following this, and might update here as things progress (some might have noticed that copyright and legal frameworks arouns gaming is an interest of mine)

For a good explanation of the actual lawsuit, i recommend Lawful Masses with Leonard French - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOJYGQF29ao (how can you not like a copyright lawyer wirg a Commodore cap?0

(ps. posted while not quite sober, so more spelling mistakes and logical flaws than usual)
Post edited April 19, 2022 by amok
"Copyright trolls can take down content with no fear of perjury, anonymously, and without even a single check of ownership".
"Trolled victims must make counterclaims, providing their personal information to the copyright troll, in the process".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx5prDjKAcw
Post edited April 19, 2022 by Grargar
I'm really glad that Bungie are going after these people, and I'm glad to read most of their court filing.

However, Bungie are using the choice-of-venue in the software's license agreement to choose the venue for a case where the software itself is a tangential part of the case.That doesn't seem right, it would be bad for consumer protection to let choice-of-venue clauses apply to a wider scope.
Good to see that playing stupid games wins stupid prizes.

Dont think this is going to amount to much though. Would not be in Google’s best interest to break privacy and unless they get a beating from the issue, I dont see them changing.

Adding additional confirmation to check claims and people to assess whether the claim has validity would require hiring additional people who do that job that doesnt necessarily generate money for the company.
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Corporations have abused the DMCA themselves so the effective solution to the abuses aided by youtube was someone being a little illegal.......

Joerg sprave was promoting some German union for youtubers but I don't know how much success they had.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocwrLmXj9Jk
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Grargar: "Copyright trolls can take down content with no fear of perjury, anonymously, and without even a single check of ownership".
"Trolled victims must make counterclaims, providing their personal information to the copyright troll, in the process".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx5prDjKAcw
Which would seem like a breach of GDPR and other rights Europeans are supposed to have.