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What the f***?
http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/

I hope you didn't do online banking with a recent Lenovo laptop. ;)
Post edited February 20, 2015 by Klumpen0815
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Klumpen0815: What the f***?
http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/

I hope you didn't do online banking with a recent Lenovo laptop. ;)
That's a Red Chinese company for you.
Wow, that's interesting...

Curiously i am usually annoyed at OEM installs and more often than not i'm willing to wipe a new computer and put a completely different OS (or clean one) on. But with the common practice being not giving you a repair/OS disc, that becomes less of an option for most people...

I guess comes down to: Don't trust people you don't know... Especially with your PC.
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rtcvb32: Wow, that's interesting...

Curiously i am usually annoyed at OEM installs and more often than not i'm willing to wipe a new computer and put a completely different OS (or clean one) on. But with the common practice being not giving you a repair/OS disc, that becomes less of an option for most people...

I guess comes down to: Don't trust people you don't know... Especially with your PC.
Or get a Microsoft Signature device, though their availability is limited. Which is the device with only OS installed and updated similarly to the sysprep tool, but without user accounts or any third party software at all.

These also come with a full restoration partition, so you don't even need repair / OS discs to completely reinstall the OS if you want to.
Post edited February 20, 2015 by Elenarie
@dsilverman: Confirmed that the Signature Edition @lenovo notebooks in Microsoft Stores do NOT have #Superfish.
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Klumpen0815: What the f***?
http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/

I hope you didn't do online banking with a recent Lenovo laptop. ;)
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Bouchart: That's a Red Chinese company for you.
The US isn't much better
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/17/usa-cyberspying-idUSL1N0VQ0NG20150217
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1) Buy Lenovo pc
2) Install Linux right away, first thing
3) No worries about preinstalled crap

:P

Bring the downvotes!
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rtcvb32: Wow, that's interesting...

Curiously i am usually annoyed at OEM installs and more often than not i'm willing to wipe a new computer and put a completely different OS (or clean one) on. But with the common practice being not giving you a repair/OS disc, that becomes less of an option for most people...

I guess comes down to: Don't trust people you don't know... Especially with your PC.
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Elenarie: Or get a Microsoft Signature device, though their availability is limited. Which is the device with only OS installed and updated similarly to the sysprep tool, but without user accounts or any third party software at all.

These also come with a full restoration partition, so you don't even need repair / OS discs to completely reinstall the OS if you want to.
Trouble with recovery partitions is that they don't help much if you have a HD failure, I mean have the partition is nice if it's in ADDITION to getting the disks, I hate it when they don't give you them, though...
Plus you can use the disks for stuff like booting to OS recovery tools, if you're in a state where they won't load from the HD etc.
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Fever_Discordia: Trouble with recovery partitions is that they don't help much if you have a HD failure
Oh? And here i've never gotten a recovery partition to work so it's always been wasted space for me... Maybe it's something simple, or maybe it requires some special trick... Although maybe F8 would work during booting, but if your MBR breaks then you're stuck unable to access either partition... which still makes it useless.
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vicklemos: 1) Buy Lenovo pc
2) Install Linux right away, first thing
3) No worries about preinstalled crap

:P

Bring the downvotes!
The same problem can still apply if a Linux distribution was preinstalled by the OEM.
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Elenarie: Or get a Microsoft Signature device, though their availability is limited. Which is the device with only OS installed and updated similarly to the sysprep tool, but without user accounts or any third party software at all.

These also come with a full restoration partition, so you don't even need repair / OS discs to completely reinstall the OS if you want to.
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Fever_Discordia: Trouble with recovery partitions is that they don't help much if you have a HD failure, I mean have the partition is nice if it's in ADDITION to getting the disks, I hate it when they don't give you them, though...
Plus you can use the disks for stuff like booting to OS recovery tools, if you're in a state where they won't load from the HD etc.
And then you have many machines today that don't come with an optical drive at all, so discs would be of less use ("here's your recovery discs that you can use in case your computer won't boot, though you'll need to purchase an external DVD drive to use them").

But even in those cases, a read-only USB memory stick can't be a very high cost to bundle.
Post edited February 20, 2015 by Maighstir
Optical drives are less and less common nowadays, which is why they've started to put the complete recovery partition on the disk itself. The links below make recovery discs even more useless:

If you want to create a recovery partition that won't reside on the disk, you can use this: http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-us/support/storage-files-and-folders/create-a-recovery-drive

You can create a complete installation media from here for free, if you don't want to go down the external recovery partition: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/windows-8/create-reset-refresh-media
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vicklemos: 1) Buy Lenovo pc
2) Install Linux right away, first thing
3) No worries about preinstalled crap

:P

Bring the downvotes!
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Elenarie: The same problem can still apply if a Linux distribution was preinstalled by the OEM.
Of course, but do note that "install Linux" is step 2, with no mention of what the preinstalled system might be. As long as the newly-installed OS distribution does not have the malware, you're fine (unless it's in the firmware for one of the many devices built-in to the machine, in which case a new OS won't really help much).
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Elenarie: Optical drives are less and less common nowadays, which is why they've started to put the complete recovery partition on the disk itself. The links below make recovery discs even more useless:

If you want to create a recovery partition that won't reside on the disk, you can use this: http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-us/support/storage-files-and-folders/create-a-recovery-drive

You can create a complete installation media from here for free, if you don't want to go down the external recovery partition: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/windows-8/create-reset-refresh-media
Yeah, again only useful if you have the foresight to be prepared for a disaster or you have another computer to hand that you can get on the internet with, you're stuck in a chicken and egg situation otherwise...
"Microsoft updates Windows Defender, fries Superfish like a piece of Carp that it is"