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Zenith and/or We are the Dwarves

Any thoughts on either of these two games by anyone that's played them - are they really as bad as the reviews, both here and elsewhere on-line suggest? I know I'm probably clutching at straws but I'm looking for a fun, fairly easy game which won't end with me rage quitting due to frustration! :)

Thanks.
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Pajama: Zenith and/or We are the Dwarves

Any thoughts on either of these two games by anyone that's played them - are they really as bad as the reviews, both here and elsewhere on-line suggest? I know I'm probably clutching at straws but I'm looking for a fun, fairly easy game which won't end with me rage quitting due to frustration! :)

Thanks.
We are the Dwarves is not all that bad but it's not a great game either. First thing you need to know: the game is hard as nails and sadly, unfair in many cases. Controls are a bit clunky and camera downright terrible (you can only rotate it). My advice is to play on easy and use tactical pause far more often then you may think you should. If you form a habit to do so you may finally start to enjoy the game. And how is the gameplay? Have you ever played Myth: The Fallen Lords or its sequels? We are the Dwarves has a similar vibe: real-time tactic game in which even a small mistake will lead to your total destruction :D The obvious difference is that you control only three dwarves here, each with unique abilities (gunner, warrior, assassin). If you master the tactical pause feature you may do some cool strategies to defeat your enemies: hide your warrior behind a rock, lure your enemies with the gunner, intercept charging enemies with the warrior, finish ranged foes with the assassin. Trust me, it will take some time of practice to make it works but then it can very satisfying. But as I said before the game tends to be unfair so usually in each mission you will try to reach the stone of life first (it can heal your dwarves) and then try to reach your goal retreating to the stone every time you encounter some enemies.

I've played the game shortly after replaying the Myth series so I was prepared for a hardcore RTT game so in the end I kinda enjoyed the game. But I can recommend it to you if you like such games and are ok with a high and unfair difficulty.
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Ghorpm: We are the Dwarves...But I can recommend it to you if you like such games and are ok with a high and unfair difficulty.
Many thanks for the in-depth info +1. I reckon I'll be giving this one a miss then.
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Ghorpm: We are the Dwarves...But I can recommend it to you if you like such games and are ok with a high and unfair difficulty.
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Pajama: Many thanks for the in-depth info +1. I reckon I'll be giving this one a miss then.
Yeah, probably a good idea ;) The game has many flaws and I believe only hardcore fans of the genre can have some limited fun with it.
Here's my take on Zenith, for what it's worth.

TL;DR: lacking mechanically and gameplay-wise, but with an over-the-top and absurd story. Depending on what you value more in games you're probably gonna enjoy it or hate it.
Not really, but Zinethis rather fun (and free)
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muntdefems: Here's my take on Zenith, for what it's worth.

TL;DR: lacking mechanically and gameplay-wise, but with an over-the-top and absurd story. Depending on what you value more in games you're probably gonna enjoy it or hate it.
Thanks. Read your review and think I'll give this a miss too - no journal/quest log is a game breaker for me as my memory is not as it once was and I also know I'm never good at remembering to write things down either! :)
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amok: Not really, but Zinethis rather fun (and free)
Thanks for the suggestion :)
Post edited November 28, 2017 by Pajama