Posted September 05, 2021
Ok thanks for the clarification.
From these discussions, I sometimes get the feeling as if elsewhere there are only two options to buy a desktop (gaming) PC:
1. Buy a prebuilt supermarket PC (HP, Dell or whatever) which is possibly overpriced and has a non-optimal configuration and poor expansion capabilities.
2. Buy all components one by one from dozen different stores, and then assemble them yourself, starting from applying thermal paste to your CPU etc.
But maybe I've just misunderstood something, and those "pre-builts" similar to Jimm's or Verkkokauppa.com are similarly available in other countries too? All the desktop PCs I've ever bought were those kinds of "pre-builts" where some (usually small) PC store has built the system from the components that I've chosen. I've never installed a CPU, used thermal paste or installed a motherboard to a PC case, ever.
And never will. I get about as much enjoyment from assembling a PC myself, as I do from assembling a piece of IKEA furniture. Ie. none, I hate doing it.
teceem: Those are called OEM systems. They're also pre-built, but not necessarily from generally available components. Also, not necessarily adhering to standards (e.g. ATX).
An OEM desktop system *can* be impossible to upgrade yourself, and often contains at least one part that you can't replace (like PSU/motherboard/cooling/case).
OEM systems aren't always entirely "mass produced"... most brands sell user-configurable desktops.
For the sake of communication, I think that it's a good thing to not call OEM computers "pre-built" (even if they are, "semantically speaking"). Ok so I am still confused. So pre-builts ARE referring to those "built by the store from stock parts" PCs, not brand-name desktop PCs like HP or Dell.
So I still don't understand, what is wrong with such pre-builts? At least back when I have bought them, the PC store has given me free hand to alternate the components, e.g. if I wanted more RAM or different kind of RAM, or a bigger hard drive, or a beefier graphics card. They just replace the basic configuration with the components I want, build it, and I can get it assured that the components work together as they have tested that.
This is a good example:
https://www.xmg.gg/en/desktop-pcs/xmg-trinity/
So they give a few base options for a desktop gaming PC (either Intel or AMD CPU based), and then you have several options to configure what kind of RAM, what exact CPU, what graphics card, etc. Is this still considered as a pre-built?
Is there something wrong in buying a pre-built like that, instead of buying all the components separately and then trying to assemble them yourself, like assembling a piece of IKEA furniture?
From these discussions, I sometimes get the feeling as if elsewhere there are only two options to buy a desktop (gaming) PC:
1. Buy a prebuilt supermarket PC (HP, Dell or whatever) which is possibly overpriced and has a non-optimal configuration and poor expansion capabilities.
2. Buy all components one by one from dozen different stores, and then assemble them yourself, starting from applying thermal paste to your CPU etc.
But maybe I've just misunderstood something, and those "pre-builts" similar to Jimm's or Verkkokauppa.com are similarly available in other countries too? All the desktop PCs I've ever bought were those kinds of "pre-builts" where some (usually small) PC store has built the system from the components that I've chosen. I've never installed a CPU, used thermal paste or installed a motherboard to a PC case, ever.
And never will. I get about as much enjoyment from assembling a PC myself, as I do from assembling a piece of IKEA furniture. Ie. none, I hate doing it.

An OEM desktop system *can* be impossible to upgrade yourself, and often contains at least one part that you can't replace (like PSU/motherboard/cooling/case).
OEM systems aren't always entirely "mass produced"... most brands sell user-configurable desktops.
For the sake of communication, I think that it's a good thing to not call OEM computers "pre-built" (even if they are, "semantically speaking").
So I still don't understand, what is wrong with such pre-builts? At least back when I have bought them, the PC store has given me free hand to alternate the components, e.g. if I wanted more RAM or different kind of RAM, or a bigger hard drive, or a beefier graphics card. They just replace the basic configuration with the components I want, build it, and I can get it assured that the components work together as they have tested that.
This is a good example:
https://www.xmg.gg/en/desktop-pcs/xmg-trinity/
So they give a few base options for a desktop gaming PC (either Intel or AMD CPU based), and then you have several options to configure what kind of RAM, what exact CPU, what graphics card, etc. Is this still considered as a pre-built?
Is there something wrong in buying a pre-built like that, instead of buying all the components separately and then trying to assemble them yourself, like assembling a piece of IKEA furniture?
Post edited September 05, 2021 by timppu