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Darkcloud.282: Otherwise they are free to sell keys they obtained from other sources and gog did get their cut from the ones they originally sold the keys to.
No. Keys are not goods, they can't be sold. What is supposed to be sold for someone to legally play the game is the software license, the permission to make and run a copy of the software. Only the rightsholder can give this permission - this legal principle is called copyright. "Reselling" "secondhand" software licenses is copyright infringement.
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ThePunishedSnake: Well, that is wrong and I'm pretty sure GOG soon will update their EULA by introducing the fact buying with a VPN is not legit.
They already have.
ET3D. ' I tend to defend the side that's under attack' could that be termed playing 'devils' advocate? :)
As to this perported Australian overpricing, I have previously asked 666chad to provide a link to this actual price, as I suspect that he/she may have been looking at the game + expansion pass price. That's assuming it's not a troll thread. So far I've not received notification of a reply. You make a valid point about regional pricing and affluent people taking advantage of such. It's becoming more difficult to simply 'shop' without considerations of exploitation's, & doubly so in the case of digital content it seems. :)
In this extensive thread I've been surprised that some people make defamatory statements about companies & their legal positions, given libel laws and such. Personally, I would restrict myself to commenting on the moral/ethical matters where I suspect we may be safer in expressing our opinions. :)
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Darkcloud.282: Otherwise they are free to sell keys they obtained from other sources and gog did get their cut from the ones they originally sold the keys to.
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Starmaker: No. Keys are not goods, they can't be sold. What is supposed to be sold for someone to legally play the game is the software license, the permission to make and run a copy of the software. Only the rightsholder can give this permission - this legal principle is called copyright. "Reselling" "secondhand" software licenses is copyright infringement.
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ThePunishedSnake: Well, that is wrong and I'm pretty sure GOG soon will update their EULA by introducing the fact buying with a VPN is not legit.
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Starmaker: They already have.
depends on where you are multiple rulings in the eu have shown that reselling keys is perfectly legal to do.
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jdsgn: [...]
Aaand it's officially low rated. Didn't I tell you...
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URJoking: ET3D. ' I tend to defend the side that's under attack' could that be termed playing 'devils' advocate? :)
As to this perported Australian overpricing, I have previously asked 666chad to provide a link to this actual price, as I suspect that he/she may have been looking at the game + expansion pass price. That's assuming it's not a troll thread.
As an Australian, I can confirm that the price of the game is indeed $89.99, with a current 10% discount. This is not inclusive of the Season Pass, which is a further $35.89 (no discount). The purchase of both would thus cost $125.88 AUD, or $99.93 USD. I'm assuming that's a bit more than the US price? It's possible Chad may not have been able to link you the price because it seems the website is dynamic, detecting your location and altering the price accordingly.
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URJoking: ET3D. ' I tend to defend the side that's under attack' could that be termed playing 'devils' advocate? :)
As to this perported Australian overpricing, I have previously asked 666chad to provide a link to this actual price, as I suspect that he/she may have been looking at the game + expansion pass price. That's assuming it's not a troll thread.
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Glasswolf: As an Australian, I can confirm that the price of the game is indeed $89.99, with a current 10% discount. This is not inclusive of the Season Pass, which is a further $35.89 (no discount). The purchase of both would thus cost $125.88 AUD, or $99.93 USD. I'm assuming that's a bit more than the US price? It's possible Chad may not have been able to link you the price because it seems the website is dynamic, detecting your location and altering the price accordingly.
Thanx Glasswolf. In the abscence of Chad's proof, I accept your testimony on that then. I've just checked the price in UK for standard download with 10% pre-order discount, on Platforms Origin & Uplay. It's £45 which I make $88 Australian so I don't think there's much difference. I see that there are various sites offering 'keys' for as little as £22 ($43Aus) but I doubt their authenticity either actually (addition of hidden charges) or ethicaly (see all preceding arguments about keys)
Also, I expect those same sites could be accessed in Australia, the web is worldwide after all. So, I'm still somewhat confused as to Chad's beef.
Unless i am mistaken people in the UK have to pay a 20% tax on online goods. We in Australia don't have any tax for online goods. So there is in fact quite a large difference.
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ET3D: Fanboy is someone who's such a fan of something that he'd always take their side, typically ignoring the reality of the situation. For example, if a publisher makes a certain financial decision to not support certain stores, and one of these stores makes a financial decision to get the game even so and sell it, a fanboy might take the side of the publisher even though there's no real reason for it. A really stupid fanboy would also start saying things which are blatantly not true in order to support his side of the argument.

Me, I'm not the fanboy in this, or in pretty much anything else. The fanboys on the GOG forum are on the GOG side, naturally.
Taking your time to define what you are? I see. You must have been quite affected by that critique.
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HijacK: Taking your time to define what you are? I see. You must have been quite affected by that critique.
:D

Just wondering, how many game stores are you buying at? (I bought at 11 over the past 6 months, including bundle sites.)
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HijacK: Taking your time to define what you are? I see. You must have been quite affected by that critique.
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ET3D: :D

Just wondering, how many game stores are you buying at? (I bought at 11 over the past 6 months, including bundle sites.)
I use Steam, Desura, GamersGate, GOG, Humblestore and GamesRepublic. This and I also buy games in physical form, albeit more rarely on PC since most of them require Origin, Steam or Uplay nowadays. Keep wondering, but the fact you are butthurt GMG screwed up and were conscious of what they were doing still stands.
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URJoking: ET3D. ' I tend to defend the side that's under attack' could that be termed playing 'devils' advocate? :)
You could say that. I guess that's what I usually do, but in this case I was initially quite angry because HijacK's post was blatantly false yet could cause the unaware to believe his baseless speculation.
CDP's statement to Gamespot, that they would be receiving no revenue from keys sold at GMG, is extremely confusing. In the absence of of any supporting evidence that GMG, a legit business, has hacked or scammed the keys from CDP, I'm leaning towards the far simpler conclusion that this is just a lie. GMG's procurement of keys through an authorised third party does not mean that CDP have received no revenue from the sales.

I prefer to purchase from companies that don't tell bald lies about other companies, so as such I intend not to purchase The Witcher 3 or any other games on GOG.
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URJoking: ET3D. ' I tend to defend the side that's under attack' could that be termed playing 'devils' advocate? :)
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ET3D: You could say that. I guess that's what I usually do, but in this case I was initially quite angry because HijacK's post was blatantly false yet could cause the unaware to believe his baseless speculation.
And how was it false? You keep rambling defensive nonsense, yet you fail to even explain, let alone wholly prove, what was false about GMG taking advantage of regional pricing and screwing up devs.
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HijacK: And how was it false? You keep rambling defensive nonsense, yet you fail to even explain, let alone wholly prove, what was false about GMG taking advantage of regional pricing and screwing up devs.
If they took advantage of regional pricing, it's not devs that are screwing over. It's me.

TET said it back in the day, a few people taking advantage of regional pricing isn't a problem but a lot of them are. If we see big resellers taking advantage of this and undercutting GOG, the result will be regional locking.
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HijacK: And how was it false? You keep rambling defensive nonsense, yet you fail to even explain, let alone wholly prove, what was false about GMG taking advantage of regional pricing and screwing up devs.
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P1na: If they took advantage of regional pricing, it's not devs that are screwing over. It's me.

TET said it back in the day, a few people taking advantage of regional pricing isn't a problem but a lot of them are. If we see big resellers taking advantage of this and undercutting GOG, the result will be regional locking.
By your description I see it as them screwing both the consumers and the publisher. More so the consumers though.