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I love DnD world and pc games set in it. I would like to try the oldest ones (pool of radiance, eye of beholder). Im 26 now and I still remember my brother playing (amiga or commodore) Dungeon Master. I see these games are similar to DM. As they are far older than me - can you give me any tips to begin the adventure with?
Eye of the Beholder is like Dungeon Master, Pool of Radiance is not. If you like Dungeon Master, start with Eye of the Beholder. Although Eye of the Beholder 2 is by far the better game and would make for a better experience, if you're new to this.
Post edited August 21, 2019 by stryx
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blutok: I love DnD world and pc games set in it. I would like to try the oldest ones (pool of radiance, eye of beholder). Im 26 now and I still remember my brother playing (amiga or commodore) Dungeon Master. I see these games are similar to DM. As they are far older than me - can you give me any tips to begin the adventure with?
If you're already somewhat familiar with D&D RPGs (like knowing about stats, party composition, basic spells), Eye of the Beholder will be easy to get into and you don't really need any tips, you don't even need to read a manual, you can figure it out while playing. It's not a complicated RPG, more like an action/puzzle game with light RPG elements.

I think the main obstacles will be orientation, as there is no automapping. Back in the days people mapped out the games themselves by drawing on graph paper. If you don't feel like doing that, you have to use third party software, like the All-Seeing Eye automapper. Or try to orientate yourself without a map, but I wouldn't recommend that in the long run, as that will make sections with teleporter traps even more annoying and confusing than they already are, and you're bound to overlook secret areas (the possible location of which often becomes obvious on the map, where there are blank spots).
Post edited August 22, 2019 by Leroux
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blutok: I love DnD world and pc games set in it. I would like to try the oldest ones (pool of radiance, eye of beholder). Im 26 now and I still remember my brother playing (amiga or commodore) Dungeon Master. I see these games are similar to DM. As they are far older than me - can you give me any tips to begin the adventure with?
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Leroux: If you're already somewhat familiar with D&D RPGs (like knowing about stats, party composition, basic spells), Eye of the Beholder will be easy to get into and you don't really need any tips, you don't even need to read a manual, you can figure it out while playing. It's not a complicated RPG, more like an action/puzzle game with light RPG elements.

I think the main obstacles will be orientation, as there is no automapping. Back in the days people mapped out the games themselves by drawing on graph paper. If you don't feel like doing that, you have to use third party software, like the All-Seeing Eye automapper. Or try to orientate yourself without a map, but I wouldn't recommend that in the long run, as that will make sections with teleporter traps even more annoying and confusing than they already are, and you're bound to overlook secret areas (the possible location of which often becomes obvious on the map, where there are blank spots).
About map drawing with real pen at real paper - I remember my brother playing some kind of dungeon crawler (You know I am the youngest one, back in the days prefering to watch how my brothers play rather then do it myself) - dungeon master maybe - and he was drawing labyrynth map. Ah nostalgic times... By the way one of my best memories was day, when my bro took me for RPG session set in warhammer world. Well the game master had to change their adventure a bit - adding tank, mech and helicopter just to make me happy and intersted ;)

Sorry for offtopic.
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blutok: About map drawing with real pen at real paper - I remember my brother playing some kind of dungeon crawler (You know I am the youngest one, back in the days prefering to watch how my brothers play rather then do it myself) - dungeon master maybe - and he was drawing labyrynth map. Ah nostalgic times...
I did that as well, back in the days. It's even possible that I still have those maps lying around somewhere. :D

Nowadays, I don't know what I would do. Having to draw each square of the map yourself due to a lack of automap seems rather outdated now and like a waste of time. On the other hand, I don't like playing games in a window or ALT-TABbing out of the game all the time, so using the third party tool wouldn't be ideal for me either. I'm just glad I already played through the EOB series and the dungeon crawlers I haven't played yet all have automaps, haha.
I agree it's hard to imagine drawing maps, but in my case using printed maps seems like a nice compromise. It can be still a bit challenging to get some orientation and it does not destroy immersion so much (I hate playing in window mode, for me it's instant atmosphere killer).

The problem is looking at level map is like quite big spoiler, but it's still possible to make your own research and then take a paper map when finishing level becomes a problem.