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I talked to Killian for a long time and tried *every* possible combination of questions, yet he never asked me to kill Gizmo or give me a tape recorder or mic for any evidence. So, I went to gizmo's casino and talked to him and he asked me to kill Killian and I declined his offer. Nicely. So, he and his partner start shooting at me. I had no recourse but to defend myself, so Ian and I dispatched those two and a couple of the guards leaving the casino and then traveled back to see Killian. He was not happy that we did this without his approval so he sent me to see Lars who told me to leave town and never come back. I've hardly done any quests there. Are these all cut off for me now. If I go back will all the guards start shooting at me? Or do I just go back later, kill everyone and loot the town? Is that what I'm reduced to? This game's dialogue tree is the *most sensitive* one I've ever had to deal with. One slight indiscretion, one choice somehow perceived to be offensive to someone and right away there's a battle over nothing. And in this case there seems to be a bug because I never got the right options in the damn dialogue from Killian. I must admit to being a bit more than frustrated by this. The rest of the game seems great. But, this is a drag...
Thanks for any replies.
This question / problem has been solved by Aliasalphaimage
well typically, from that point on, you ignore Junktown, or loot it. It's your choice. If you reload, you should accept Gizmo's offer then tell Killian about what Gizmo has offered you. He'll have no choice but to offer you a better deal.
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Weclock: well typically, from that point on, you ignore Junktown, or loot it. It's your choice. If you reload, you should accept Gizmo's offer then tell Killian about what Gizmo has offered you. He'll have no choice but to offer you a better deal.

I thought about reloading, but at this point, I have just too much invested in the 'game' (save) I'm playing. My plan was to basically do what you suggested (as far as ignore/loot Junktown). The 'Raider camp' looks like some easy pickings, too (I did finish the 'rescue Tandi' quest). It's just that I missed a lot of quests in Junktown and hopefully I'll have enough experience later in the game to be able to finish it. Right now I'm at the 'Hub' and I'm doing quite well as far as 'loot or money' goes... I'm sure I can pick up a few quests there. Thanks.
what I've done whenever I had to reload, was user a character editor on a new save to get me back where I was.
One of the joys and annoyances of the fallout games is that your actions often have large consequences. I was blacklisted in a major town in #2 because I walked a metre further than I should have. Guy pulled a gun, guy went down with holes in his skull, guy was the son of the crime boss I was working for and I had to fight the entire bloody gang just to get out of there alive.
The dialogue is rather touchy in places, another example of the need in dialogue heavy games for a pointer to tell you the emotional angle on the words, what I perceive as a joke is apparently an insult and so I get into fights a lot.
The short answer is yes, you're screwed in junktown but there's bigger and better places to go so don't sweat it. There's way more XP in the game than you need to max out your character so being locked out of a few minor quests isn't likely to be the make or break moment that stops you finishing the game.
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Aliasalpha: One of the joys and annoyances of the fallout games is that your actions often have large consequences. I was blacklisted in a major town in #2 because I walked a metre further than I should have. Guy pulled a gun, guy went down with holes in his skull, guy was the son of the crime boss I was working for and I had to fight the entire bloody gang just to get out of there alive.
The dialogue is rather touchy in places, another example of the need in dialogue heavy games for a pointer to tell you the emotional angle on the words, what I perceive as a joke is apparently an insult and so I get into fights a lot.
The short answer is yes, you're screwed in junktown but there's bigger and better places to go so don't sweat it. There's way more XP in the game than you need to max out your character so being locked out of a few minor quests isn't likely to be the make or break moment that stops you finishing the game.

Thanks a lot for verifying that. Yes, I figured I would be able to continue anyway. I do think though, that this is definitely a drawback to an otherwise excellent game. I played all the Balder's Gate series and some others with a lot of dialogue and I never ran across anything even close to being this constrictive. It's a shortcoming to the game that I have not seen mentioned much in all the high accolades the game receives here. I take it that F2 has the same amount of 'pickyness' in its dialogue tree? If so, I might take a pass on it (at least for a while after finishing F1). I like that my actions have consequences, I just want to know before hand that I actually know what those actions really are.Thanks for the input...
Well they improved it for fallout 2, its usually clearer which of your choices would lead to a fight but there's still a few of the same issues.
Frankly I'm happy to forgive those in exchange for being able to gently push people aside when they're blocking a doorway
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Aliasalpha: Well they improved it for fallout 2, its usually clearer which of your choices would lead to a fight but there's still a few of the same issues.
Frankly I'm happy to forgive those in exchange for being able to gently push people aside when they're blocking a doorway

I'm glad to hear that. It does make me want to play it more now that you verified this (F2). I'll probably play something else in between, though. Too much dreary wasteland all in a row is not good for my mental stability. ;)
GOG couldn't have come along at a better time for me. I really do need a new computer and monitor. This old thing is over 4 (gasp) years old and very few newer games can cut it (with the exception of King's Bounty - an excellent game that did play very well indeed on this). Anyway, the people who put this site together must know there are many people like me out here. I want to buy a new machine and I probably can afford it, but with all these 'Good Old Games' out there that I might have missed the first time around, this gives me a reason not to go hassle with figuring out where *The Moving Target* of a new computer is. :)
Thanks.