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Could anyone who has pre-ordered Masters of the Broken World answer this question, please?


I was wondering if I preordered Eador Masters of the Broken World, would I have access to download and play Eador Genesis while I wait for Eador MotBW to be released?

I hope I don't have to wait.
This question / problem has been solved by AverageBearimage
Edit: Yes, it will.
owning it gives 10% discount on preorder.

As for preordering...
Read this: http://brokenforum.com/index.php?threads/eador-genesis.4318/page-16#post-561100

Snowbirds yet again f*ed up dates, last beta test just started, so game will inevitably be released with bugs.
Actually, in last stream producer stated "Paradoxes released Europa 3 with bugs, why we can't too?". With this attitude I don't expect anything good.

Some screens of this inevitable fail:
1)http://s6.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2013/04/798932d41a9ddc683264b61f6387549a.jpg
They returned back this stupid building wheel. Then look at top right corner - wall in stone. (initially it was small stupid lake with wall around it - we sweared for 2 years on russian forum to remove that)
2)http://s6.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2013/04/0aba027f479d4b49a162d10b08f380bf.jpg
http://s6.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2013/04/09c7c003d26648bb7602b2a00a9c5d97.jpg
Graphical bug on hit:
Will be in final release. "This is feature" by producer's words.
3)Without words:
http://s6.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2013/04/61a6391e7f1125ac49d1231dccea141d.jpg
Post edited April 16, 2013 by Gremlion
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Gremlion: Genesis is not in bonus package.
But owning it gives 10% discount on preorder.

As for preordering...
Read this: http://brokenforum.com/index.php?threads/eador-genesis.4318/page-16#post-561100

Snowbirds yet again f*ed up dates, last beta test just started, so game will inevitably be released with bugs.
Actually, in last stream producer stated "Paradoxes released Europa 3 with bugs, why we can't too?". With this attitude I don't expect anything good.

Some screens of this inevitable fail:
1)http://s6.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2013/04/798932d41a9ddc683264b61f6387549a.jpg
They returned back this stupid building wheel. Then look at top right corner - wall in stone. (initially it was small stupid lake with wall around it - we sweared for 2 years on russian forum to remove that)
2)http://s6.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2013/04/0aba027f479d4b49a162d10b08f380bf.jpg
http://s6.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2013/04/09c7c003d26648bb7602b2a00a9c5d97.jpg
Graphical bug on hit:
Will be in final release. "This is feature" by producer's words.
3)Without words:
http://s6.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2013/04/61a6391e7f1125ac49d1231dccea141d.jpg
Thank you for the quick reply, Gremlion. On the GOG pre-order page it says the following, "Pre-order and get Eador: Genesis - the game will be added to your order for FREE.
This game will be available for download on approximately Apr. 19"

So, I thought that Genesis came with the pre-order of Masters of the Broken World. Nonetheless, it soundslike Masters of the Broken World is a bit buggy and the developers do not care about shoddy work, so I guess I'll hold off on buying it. What is your opinion on Genesis? Maybe, I'll just buy that one for $5.99 and be happy.
I had pre-ordered E:MotBW (on GOG, I think there is a similar offer on Steam as well) and got access to EG. To be honest - after playing the game - I don't really care about the graphical upgrade at all!

For EG: The graphics are NOT polished - rather like old paintings with NO animation at all. However the game play is so incredible that I rarely bother about the graphics quality at all! Though after hearing Gremlion, I would rather have bought EG direct than pre-ordered E:MotBW - much cheaper!
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AverageBear: I had pre-ordered E:MotBW (on GOG, I think there is a similar offer on Steam as well) and got access to EG. To be honest - after playing the game - I don't really care about the graphical upgrade at all!

For EG: The graphics are NOT polished - rather like old paintings with NO animation at all. However the game play is so incredible that I rarely bother about the graphics quality at all! Though after hearing Gremlion, I would rather have bought EG direct than pre-ordered E:MotBW - much cheaper!
Thank you very much for the reply, AverageBear. Yeah, I think I should do as you suggest and just buy Genesis. I don't feel right supporting a shoddy product especially a pre-order. The only way developers will listen to conumers is if we hold out with our wallets and demand a reasonably bug-free quality release.


But, then a pre-order would get me both games. Essentially, that would mean Masters of the Broken world for $14.00! Hmmm. I am still torn. Even a buggy game for that price isn't a terrible bargain and I am sure they will eventually work out the bugs, right? Maybe not, though. Gremlion's post has me worried that they would just abandon all support for it and not fix the bugs. I am very torn, still.
Post edited April 16, 2013 by Ham08
Sorry, couldn't see that offer - I have Genesis.
Imo Genesis definitely worth its money.
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Gremlion: Sorry, couldn't see that offer - I have Genesis.
Imo Genesis definitely worth its money.
Thanks for the second reply, Gremlion. And thanks for your advice!
Cheers!
To verify the solution provided by AverageBear.

I went ahead and bit the bullet. I pre-ordered Masters of the Broken World and had immediate access to download and play Genesis. Thanks again Gremlion and AverageBear!
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Gremlion: Edit: Yes, it will.
owning it gives 10% discount on preorder.

As for preordering...
Read this: http://brokenforum.com/index.php?threads/eador-genesis.4318/page-16#post-561100

Snowbirds yet again f*ed up dates, last beta test just started, so game will inevitably be released with bugs.
Actually, in last stream producer stated "Paradoxes released Europa 3 with bugs, why we can't too?". With this attitude I don't expect anything good.

Some screens of this inevitable fail:
1)http://s6.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2013/04/798932d41a9ddc683264b61f6387549a.jpg
They returned back this stupid building wheel. Then look at top right corner - wall in stone. (initially it was small stupid lake with wall around it - we sweared for 2 years on russian forum to remove that)
2)http://s6.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2013/04/0aba027f479d4b49a162d10b08f380bf.jpg
http://s6.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2013/04/09c7c003d26648bb7602b2a00a9c5d97.jpg
Graphical bug on hit:
Will be in final release. "This is feature" by producer's words.
3)Without words:
http://s6.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2013/04/61a6391e7f1125ac49d1231dccea141d.jpg
This seems to be an ongoing trend nowadays. Games that come out full of bugs. By the time it's all fixed up the price of the actual game lowers cause it's an older release. For the past year or so there has not been one game that has been released that i have preordered that has been without bugs. Well what do we get as the people who preordered this??? why preorder???? There is no such thing as running out of copies of a game like in hard copies??? why bother preordering a copy of a game full of bugs when you can get the game for lesser price at a later date when it is fully functional. MAKES SENSE TO ME. also, preordering bonuses don't make up for the fact that the new game that is being preordered if full of bugs... such a disappointment i say.
@Ham08 enjoy!

@bossonova I certainly don't pre-order games especially given the disasters that Diablo and Simcity have been... but I thought that E:MotBW wouldn't suffer from such problems! After all, how much effort would it take to upgrade the graphics?

Surprisingly these guys have managed to screw that up... unfortunately, since most of the stuff is in Russian [which I don't understand] it's not easy to figure the actual development status if you do a casual search!
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AverageBear: Surprisingly these guys have managed to screw that up... unfortunately, since most of the stuff is in Russian [which I don't understand] it's not easy to figure the actual development status if you do a casual search!
Stream of last beta with producer: http://riotpixels.com/translyatsiya-riot-live-e-ador-vlady-ki-mirov/

Sadly, google translate can't eat comments on the fly. You will need to copy them and paste in translator.

What you can find -
1)rendering in Motbw is on OpenGL
2)there WILL be bugs
3)Game died twice during 1,5 hour stream
4)https://securecdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/473/3619/original.jpg
5)They leaved only tactical battles as multiplayer and promise global multiplayer in forthcoming patch. Like D3.

Interesting discussion about stream(google translated) here

Overall mood - for one player who preordered this, there are 2-3 who will wait until summer, and 2-3 wouldn't touch it with ten foot pole.
Post edited April 17, 2013 by Gremlion
Thanks for the information, Gremlion!

Frankly speaking I don't have the time or patience to be a beta player, which is the case with most new releases nowadays. I'm just thankful that I played EG first while waiting for E:MotBW with all these bugs I probably wouldn't have ever played this game!
Instead of 'fishing' for information in Russian and using Google Translate, and / or believing a few people here who started an harassment campaign against Snowbird Games, may I kindly suggest that you join us in the official forum, so that you will be able to read opinion of many more people, in English?

http://www.snowbirdgames.com/forum/index.php?forums/eador-masters-of-the-broken-world.5/

Also, you can even try the game and see with your own eyes, instead of indulging in wild speculations; there is still time to play the beta. You can use it as a demo, no need to report anything. I call it 'transparency'.