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JClosed: And of course Steam demands there are limitations if you want to publish on another platform. They simply say - No exclusivity. Everyone is treated equally. They are not wrong in that I should say. EGS at the other hand...
That's not how it works. Steam (Valve) doesn't demant equality for all, it demands that you are not allowing others to compete with Steam by exclusive content. Valve has no problem with exclusive content being created for Steam only.
IOW The standard distribution egreement with Steam grants Valve an edge at best, and preserves the status quo at worst.
Now guess who benfits on preserving the status quo in a battle between a market giant and the new, small competitor?

Also, ask yourself a question: are you for preserving the status quo?
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JClosed: And of course Steam demands there are limitations if you want to publish on another platform. They simply say - No exclusivity. Everyone is treated equally. They are not wrong in that I should say. EGS at the other hand...
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zadymek: That's not how it works. Steam (Valve) doesn't demant equality for all, it demands that you are not allowing others to compete with Steam by exclusive content. Valve has no problem with exclusive content being created for Steam only.
IOW The standard distribution egreement with Steam grants Valve an edge at best, and preserves the status quo at worst.
Now guess who benfits on preserving the status quo in a battle between a market giant and the new, small competitor?

Also, ask yourself a question: are you for preserving the status quo?
Other formulation, same effect. If the status quo is that developers and/or publishers are fee to sell on other platforms it's fine by me. Of course Steam does not want to advertise a game on their platform, to be undersold on another platform. That's simple economics. That's not exclusivity. That the publisher/developer only wants to sell their game on the Steam platform, has nothing to do with Steam/Valve rules...
EGS simply does NOT allow developers and/or publishers to sell on another platform for a exclusivity period and sometimes never ever, so that's some draconian rules imposed by EGS. See the difference?

Anyway - I still say you neglect the biggest elephant in the room - DRM!!! I won't by the game on Steam, or EGS ore wherever, as long as the bloody DRM is slapped on it. That was the whole core of this discussion. I don't get it that you avoid talking about that, but only concentrate on side topics.

This is the last thing I say about it. We disagree, and that's fine. I leave it at that, and stop responding for now. I have games to play - DRM-Free games to be precise... ;-).
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JClosed: Other formulation, same effect. If the status quo is that developers and/or publishers are fee to sell on other platforms it's fine by me. Of course Steam does not want to advertise a game on their platform, to be undersold on another platform. That's simple economics. That's not exclusivity. That the publisher/developer only wants to sell their game on the Steam platform, has nothing to do with Steam/Valve rules...
EGS simply does NOT allow developers and/or publishers to sell on another platform for a exclusivity period and sometimes never ever, so that's some draconian rules imposed by EGS. See the difference?
Yes, I see a difference. Valve uses its priviledged market position to force developers into favoring their store (or get out) while Epic pays developers for favoring their store - only for a set duration of time cause no one wants to pass the higher sales numbers that Steam base of users may provide.
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JClosed: Anyway - I still say you neglect the biggest elephant in the room - DRM!!! I won't by the game on Steam, or EGS ore wherever, as long as the bloody DRM is slapped on it. That was the whole core of this discussion. I don't get it that you avoid talking about that, but only concentrate on side topics.
And I say: if I'd decide to give a DRM platform a go, I'd pick EGS over Steam. Because Valve is a evil monopolist company (that wronged me in the past) so I hate it with all my... blood pump ;)
There's bad and worse case of DRM and I pick the lesser evil, that's all I'm saying.
Post edited February 06, 2024 by zadymek