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Can I use a single GoG.com DRM-free copy of Divinity: Original Sin 2 on two PCs - both which I own - so I can have a three-player game (two players splitscreen on the desktop, and one player on a laptop)?

Can I just copy+paste the GoG installer onto two of my computers, and have the two copies of the game connect to each other?
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Comrade.396: Can I use a single GoG.com DRM-free copy of Divinity: Original Sin 2 on two PCs - both which I own - so I can have a three-player game (two players splitscreen on the desktop, and one player on a laptop)?

Can I just copy+paste the GoG installer onto two of my computers, and have the two copies of the game connect to each other?
You can. I doubt that changed from previous game, just use LAN connection only.
Legally you only have the right to play one copy of any game, at a time, no matter how many installs you may have.
Multiple installs are fine, as you can only play one at once.

Morally, and technically, you're fine as long as it's on a LAN only, as nobody will ever know you did it
Unless you kiss and tell.

I doubt GOG, or Larian would come after you for that, even if you told them, as they would hope it persuades your friend to buy the game.
Just don't kiss, and tell.
Is this - purely theoretical - possible to play online (not LAN - real internet connection) with one installer? So i can play with my self in Coop Mode but not via LAN because... I dont know but would it work? Like i buy the game, pass the installer to a friend and we play together online - disclaimer: I would never do that - pure scientific research!
Post edited September 26, 2017 by Proxycon
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UhuruNUru: Legally you only have the right to play one copy of any game, at a time, no matter how many installs you may have.
Multiple installs are fine, as you can only play one at once.
Where is that legal notice on gog.com?

Only information I found on the matter is that you do not install the games on computers that are not your own, it does not say that you are only allowed to use one install at a time, you bought the product and you own the hardware (in your household) so why is it illegal for someone else to use it?

Yes. We do not limit the number of installations or reinstallations, as long as you install your purchased games on computers in your household. So yeah, if you've got a render-farm in the basement, you might actually break the world record for the number of legal Witcher installations in one household. However, if you think about installing your game on a friend's machine or sharing it with others then please don't do it, okay?

https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/212806505-Can-I-enjoy-my-purchases-both-on-my-laptop-and-desktop-computer-at-home-
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halldojo: Where is that legal notice on gog.com?

Only information I found on the matter is that you do not install the games on computers that are not your own, it does not say that you are only allowed to use one install at a time, you bought the product and you own the hardware (in your household) so why is it illegal for someone else to use it?

Yes. We do not limit the number of installations or reinstallations, as long as you install your purchased games on computers in your household. So yeah, if you've got a render-farm in the basement, you might actually break the world record for the number of legal Witcher installations in one household. However, if you think about installing your game on a friend's machine or sharing it with others then please don't do it, okay?

https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/212806505-Can-I-enjoy-my-purchases-both-on-my-laptop-and-desktop-computer-at-home-
The legallity is in the rules for using your account, and from the games themselves.
Online multiplayer requires use of accounts, GOG's or somebody elses, and the simple fact you can only have one login.
Even Steam's account sharing, friends, and family only allows one connection , with the owner getting 1st priority.
Whether the multiplayer account is with GOG, or the game, it will always be restricted to one active user.

LAN is more like splitscreen, and both are very rare these days.
I've not seen anything with Larian, or GOG expressly forbidding it, and it's almost impossible to stop anyway.

From the standard GOG EULA. in DOS2, and every GOG game.
3. GOG ACCOUNTS
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3.3 Your GOG account and GOG content are personal to you. You can gift GOG games and GOG videos to other people (up to a limit of 5 per day and provided the recipient doesn’t already own the GOG game/video being gifted) however this might differ on a case by case basis, but you can't sell them or charge money for them.
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9. WHAT YOU CAN'T DO WITH GOG SERVICES
9.1 Please follow these rules regarding the GOG services and GOG content:
(a) Only use GOG services or GOG content for your personal enjoyment (for example, don't use them to make money).
That's perfectly clear, it's your game/account, and you can't play two games at once.
Post edited October 02, 2017 by UhuruNUru
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UhuruNUru: The legallity is in the rules for using your account, and from the games themselves.
Online multiplayer requires use of accounts, GOG's or somebody elses, and the simple fact you can only have one login.
Even Steam's account sharing, friends, and family only allows one connection , with the owner getting 1st priority.
Whether the multiplayer account is with GOG, or the game, it will always be restricted to one active user.

LAN is more like splitscreen, and both are very rare these days.
I've not seen anything with Larian, or GOG expressly forbidding it, and it's almost impossible to stop anyway.
I do not know why you are mixing steam into this since steam is the lord of all DRMs, steam has completely different angle to how the games work there, for 1 you are not buying the games there, you are buying access to their service vs on GOG you are actually buying the game.

To be honest I do not know how the accounts work for gog, there is a good chance they only allow 1 computer at a time to connect to online multiplayer service but that is not LAN, then you are using the gog services.

Lan is nothing like splitscreen, splitscreen is where the game is run on 1 set of hardware and only once up.
LAN is where you have 2+ sets of hardware and the game is run 2+ times.
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UhuruNUru: From the standard GOG EULA. in DOS2, and every GOG game.

3. GOG ACCOUNTS
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3.3 Your GOG account and GOG content are personal to you. You can gift GOG games and GOG videos to other people (up to a limit of 5 per day and provided the recipient doesn’t already own the GOG game/video being gifted) however this might differ on a case by case basis, but you can't sell them or charge money for them.
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9. WHAT YOU CAN'T DO WITH GOG SERVICES
9.1 Please follow these rules regarding the GOG services and GOG content:
(a) Only use GOG services or GOG content for your personal enjoyment (for example, don't use them to make money).
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UhuruNUru: That's perfectly clear, it's your game/account, and you can't play two games at once.
I disagree, this is far from being clear, yes this is your game and account but it does not say anywhere that you can play two games at a time nor only 1 game at a time, 9.1(a) is talking about the gog servce (As clearly stated in 9.) and gog content (9.1 this is not gog content, this is a game you have bought from gog), when you are playing LAN in your own home you are not using the gog service or gog content. If 9.1(a) is as you say, one could technically say people are forbidden to watch you play the games you buy on gog since that would be potentially someone elses enjoyment of your product.

So installing this game on multiple computers that you own at your own home as stated in the link I had in my previous post there is nothing there that forbids you to have friends playing on your other computer (unless you can show me otherwise, I can not read that from what you linked, you can choose to understand it that way but it does not clearly state so).
Post edited October 04, 2017 by halldojo
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halldojo: Only information I found on the matter is that you do not install the games on computers that are not your own, it does not say that you are only allowed to use one install at a time, you bought the product and you own the hardware (in your household) so why is it illegal for someone else to use it?
If "someone else" is living in your home and "someone else" is in your immediate family, it isn't illegal. If they are not in your family/live in your home, then it isn't legal to give them a copy of your copy. The license covers family/local computers in your residence (of course, since the IP could not/would not control that, anyway); but *everyone else* must buy his own copy for his own separate family/house/computers--of course. Strictly common sense.

No--you cannot legally buy your copy and then give a copy of your copy to "a friend" who lives elsewhere, etc. Common sense 101...;) GOG and Larian expect everyone who plays the game to purchase his own copy, to play however the person wishes. There is no specific "use" for "multiplayer;" it's all the same in terms of legal ownership of the copy. Most people who pirate software always have ways of rationalizing it, though...;) But you asked, I answered.
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halldojo: Only information I found on the matter is that you do not install the games on computers that are not your own, it does not say that you are only allowed to use one install at a time, you bought the product and you own the hardware (in your household) so why is it illegal for someone else to use it?
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waltc: If "someone else" is living in your home and "someone else" is in your immediate family, it isn't illegal. If they are not in your family/live in your home, then it isn't legal to give them a copy of your copy. The license covers family/local computers in your residence (of course, since the IP could not/would not control that, anyway); but *everyone else* must buy his own copy for his own separate family/house/computers--of course. Strictly common sense.

No--you cannot legally buy your copy and then give a copy of your copy to "a friend" who lives elsewhere, etc. Common sense 101...;) GOG and Larian expect everyone who plays the game to purchase his own copy, to play however the person wishes. There is no specific "use" for "multiplayer;" it's all the same in terms of legal ownership of the copy. Most people who pirate software always have ways of rationalizing it, though...;) But you asked, I answered.
You must be misunderstanding this statement of mine, I am saying, you install this into 2 of your own computers in your own home, someone else that does not live in your home comes over and plays on 1 of your computer while you play on the other computer that you own, a LAN multiplayer game (i.e. your network.).

Read the quoted line again, there is nothing in there that says it is ok to give someone else your copy, this is purely usage of software and hardware that you personally own.
Post edited October 05, 2017 by halldojo
Don't copy that floppy.

I think I remember Larian telling someone else it was okay to play the game multiplayer with someone, with the same copy of the game, but if they wanted to play single player they had to buy the game. *I have no interest in finding where anyone said that, but it's what I remember.

I also remember back in the day they gave you a separate multiplayer disc in game boxes so you could play with friends that lived elsewhere. Something to think about, if you value an olde school mindset over a new one.

Don't mind me, just some ramblings.
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Proxycon: Is this - purely theoretical - possible to play online (not LAN - real internet connection) with one installer? So i can play with my self in Coop Mode but not via LAN because... I dont know but would it work? Like i buy the game, pass the installer to a friend and we play together online - disclaimer: I would never do that - pure scientific research!
I don't know if your question was answered, but you can. You can connect with IP or a server ID number. I play with a friend using the server ID number. I have the drm free Steam version, and they have the gog drm free version. Plays perfectly.
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UhuruNUru: Legally you only have the right to play one copy of any game, at a time, no matter how many installs you may have.
Multiple installs are fine, as you can only play one at once.

Morally, and technically, you're fine as long as it's on a LAN only, as nobody will ever know you did it
Unless you kiss and tell.

I doubt GOG, or Larian would come after you for that, even if you told them, as they would hope it persuades your friend to buy the game.
Just don't kiss, and tell.
I might make sure for german users here that THIS IS NOT TRUE AT ALL.

Depending on national laws you are allowed to copy a game, music or any other form of media for your own personal use and spread it at home (or use it in a car for example - legally cars also count as a private area akin to your home, to back that even up twice here).
So you are allowed and ever were allowed (this was already the case 20 years ago) to take a game you own, maybe on a CD/DVD and burn another copy of it, generate an install key even or use other methods of creating a second working copy for your household.
Again, this includes all types of media.
No one can legally tell you what you do in private at your home, no company no matter where located.
Which means you are absolutely fine to share the same game´, legally and ethically (I even would say that this is highly likely for countries like france aswell, which secure the privacy of citizens even more).

And playing it does also not forbid that you play online, you can use a game from your household normally.
What you cant do is obviously use cracks and other keygenerator programms to create another version of a game to then use it online.
Like lets say you own a copy of Warcraft 3 that comes with a CD key, you copy that version (burn it) on another CD but you obviously needed two CD keys to have both players play online.
Or you use a crack for a steamgame to then play lets say Rainbow Six Siege online with three other people but with only one copy owned.
Using any program creating an additional CD Key to workaround the problem to play online is not allowed in such a case to my knowledge - when you connect to servers like lets say the Battle.net etc.

For everything else, you are fine. That includes lets say, buying a game like Settlers or Anno on GoG and then play via online connection with your friend (or LAN if that works better).

Mind, this only is true for the german area as laws are different.
However, it might be possible that certain legal agreements have changed according to EU laws and recent court decisions(to the positive or negative) (such as the rejection of Sony to sue people who provide free WLAN when a third party user uses the WLAN to load illegal copies of music up into the web).
So there might be incidences and clearer cases as to what is exactly forbidden and what is not.

But generally the above quoted statement is absolutely false and might only be true for the area the person quoted lives in, and even there it might be allowed, depending on how well the person knows its countries laws.
EULAs or other agreements from companies NEVER eliminate the national law (or any political layer above such as EU), especially not on international ground.
That is a common misconception of consumers seeing EULAs and Terms of Services all over the place for anything they use.
These are not binding you to anything when a national law cant support these contracts or outright contradicts them.
If a company isnt fine with the laws in any country and thinks that a national law works against their company terms, they are ever free to block these countries so people cant use their stores anymore.
Since they do not at the moment block germany, they openly take the money of german customers and so agree to the existing laws of that nation that is stronger than their company terms and policies.
If GoG or Larian wouldnt be fine with german users using a bought copy of their game for several people, then they had to take the game off the store for german customers or even block german users entirely from the store.
Yes thats possible, and yes that has been done before in other cases.

In short, you can take a gog game you bought and have a friend download it with your account aswell so you can play together.
Especially since that needs you to provide your account information, its save to assume that you trust each other enough to do such a step, which is commonly done inside a family for example. You can also copy the installer on lets say an USB Stick and use it on another PC, the way of distributing the copy doesnt matter.
You are not allowed however to share the game online with strangers.
What GoG does is asking you to not do it (use one copy for multiple players you trust and know even in your household).
That has nothing to do with a legal basis, and is rather them saying "hey these developers depend on the income to provide you with games, its fair to buy it twice when you use it with another person".
Since GoG relies on such developers offering their games without any DRM, its a good attitude to actually buy two copies and so show developers that it is beneficial to invest into the DRM-free system.
Working around that with sharing a DRM free game with strangers, would just damage these companies that in the long run you only damage your own interests as they wont provide more DRM free games in the future when they make negative experiences.


I personally prefer to do it this way: I have a friend who is interested in different games such as i am. But since we are also different personalities and play in a different way, its hard to determine what he likes and what he dislikes.
So when i actually like a game, i have him try the game and play with me (for example through GoG) and when we have good fun he doesnt mind buying the game.
So in my case it rather acts as a demo for him. Which is positive since before he wouldnt have bought the game in question anyway, but i kinda lure him into playing it with me and so hook him up.
Doing it this way is not only legally safe, its also in my eyes beneficial for all sides.
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NemesisZidar: I might make sure for german users here that THIS IS NOT TRUE AT ALL.

Depending on national laws you are allowed to copy a game, music or any other form of media for your own personal use
Personal use means only yourself, and I'm speaking about what is legal, according to the T&C of GOG's site.

From the standard GOG EULA. in DOS2, and every GOG game.

3. GOG ACCOUNTS
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3.3 Your GOG account and GOG content are personal to you. You can gift GOG games and GOG videos to other people (up to a limit of 5 per day and provided the recipient doesn’t already own the GOG game/video being gifted) however this might differ on a case by case basis, but you can't sell them or charge money for them.
...
9. WHAT YOU CAN'T DO WITH GOG SERVICES
9.1 Please follow these rules regarding the GOG services and GOG content:
(a) Only use GOG services or GOG content for your personal enjoyment.
That's perfectly clear, it's your game/account, and you Personally can't play two games at once.
You have no legal right to let anybody else use your spare copy of the game.

That doesn't mean GOG are going to try to stop you providing your friend with a copy.
Letting anybody use another copy of any of your GOG games, when you are using your own copy, is Piracy, pure, and simple.

Their is no grey area, when more than one copy is used at the same time. You can't play both at once.
GOG's attitude to Piracy is equally clear. they know they can't stop it, and don't even try to stop it.
GOG rely on the good will of customers not to pirate the game, nothing more, nothing less.

So stop trying to pretend you're not committing piracy by letting your friend play a second copy with you.
Also let me make it clear I'm not criticising the act of piracy, I'm criticizing the false claim that it's somehow legal.

I have pirated games (But not GOG ones), but never have I tried to claim it was somehow legal. It is not.
Post edited March 19, 2018 by UhuruNUru
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Comrade.396: Can I use a single GoG.com DRM-free copy of Divinity: Original Sin 2 on two PCs - both which I own - so I can have a three-player game (two players splitscreen on the desktop, and one player on a laptop)?

Can I just copy+paste the GoG installer onto two of my computers, and have the two copies of the game connect to each other?
There is no DRM preventing you from it. We have a collectors edition which includes two copies of the game, but my wife was to lazy to register her key to her account at first and I was courious to check.

So yeah, it works. You don't have a licence still, so it has the same legal standing as any other pirate copy of the game. You are pirating the game when you are handing out game copies like this. And you are making here in the forums litrally a point for all those companies which refuse to release on GOG.com or at least delay their GOG.com releases by months or years to limit piracy based on gog.com releases.

So don't wear this hat:
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