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mordorxp: in short, without mods D1 sucks, but WITH them - it can be awesome
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qndel: a rare moment when I agree with mordor :D
A shame it’s happening at a time you are both wrong ;P
Bah, I guess it’s not your fault if both of you have such poor taste…
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qndel: a rare moment when I agree with mordor :D
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vv221: A shame it’s happening at a time you are both wrong ;P
Bah, I guess it’s not your fault if both of you have such poor taste…
sad that you are claiming pc games made 0 progress during 20+ years ;)
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qndel: (…)
The apex of video games history is 1999.
Everyone disagreeing with that should be ashamed of lacking so much in taste for what is great.
never played this game, not a huge fan of centaurs :P
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mordorxp: - too many mindless D2 idea rips make it feel like you;ve already been there
- poor class variability (choices with skills are made for you)
- highlighting objects can cause irritation
- game sometimes crashes, not very stable
- it's dead and there will be no patches to fix things that are broken
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qndel: Haha mordor strikes again with bullshit

- too many mindless D2 idea rips make it feel like you;ve already been there
- said mordor while ripping more and more d2 graphics and sounds and putting them into his mod
Belzebub/Tchernobog don't do that

- poor class variability (choices with skills are made for you)
- said mordor while having 40 classes that are basically copy/pasted and the only difference is the color of the cloak they are wearing

- game sometimes crashes, not very stable
- lies

- it's dead and there will be no patch
what a coincidence he forgot to mention that the multiplayer version is being actively developed

- highlighting objects can cause irritation
- what :D maybe you need new glasses or something, tchernobog even adds the ability to write custom loot filters and being able to hide/rename/recolor all the loot you see

to sum up, never listen to anything this guy says
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Kougun.kW: your attitude is crap :)
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qndel: at least I'm smart enough to keep my posts relevant to the topic

as for the most vanilla friendly mod, it'd probably be
https://github.com/qndel/Infernity
no hellfire content but otherwise should be perfect, you can read the changelog on github
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vv221: No, it’s not ;)
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qndel: if it wasn't, there would be no need for mods :>
Your mod is trash. Cope.
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qndel: Haha mordor strikes again with bullshit

- too many mindless D2 idea rips make it feel like you;ve already been there
- said mordor while ripping more and more d2 graphics and sounds and putting them into his mod
Belzebub/Tchernobog don't do that

- poor class variability (choices with skills are made for you)
- said mordor while having 40 classes that are basically copy/pasted and the only difference is the color of the cloak they are wearing

- game sometimes crashes, not very stable
- lies

- it's dead and there will be no patch
what a coincidence he forgot to mention that the multiplayer version is being actively developed

- highlighting objects can cause irritation
- what :D maybe you need new glasses or something, tchernobog even adds the ability to write custom loot filters and being able to hide/rename/recolor all the loot you see

to sum up, never listen to anything this guy says

at least I'm smart enough to keep my posts relevant to the topic

as for the most vanilla friendly mod, it'd probably be
https://github.com/qndel/Infernity
no hellfire content but otherwise should be perfect, you can read the changelog on github

if it wasn't, there would be no need for mods :>
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theross: Your mod is trash. Cope.
So trash you had to necro a thread after 2 years to tell me about it. Crawl back to your hole, I couldn't care less about people like you xD (Pity gog removed the report button)
Post edited March 06, 2023 by qndel
From old discussion above
{development has stopped }
Sometimes that should be called - finished. Software should be stopped developed. Best is enemy of good. Coding is like art. Programmer always find what can be improved. But at some point it going to wrong theory - software always should get updates. Not, it's not. "Alive" and "still supported" do not related to updates. And chiding two mods which one of them are stop getting updates you should look how good that one at current state. Maybe one of them just finished? And you really prefer mod that probably get update right when you start play? What if there is critical issues in that update fixed? And what if it bring critical issues? Fixes are listed in changelo, bugs are not.


Art or not. Before start project developer should understand what he do and what he want to did. What is finished for his application. Including how he see balance in his game. Not just keep update it constantly randomly change one and other stats.
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QWEEDDYZ: Art or not. Before start project developer should understand what he do and what he want to did. What is finished for his application. Including how he see balance in his game. Not just keep update it constantly randomly change one and other stats.
Are you a developer?
Post edited March 07, 2023 by Anders_Jenbo
More than a dev - I am a consumer. :p
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QWEEDDYZ: More than a dev - I am a consumer. :p
I feel there is a tendency to forget that developers are also consumers.
Del...
Post edited March 08, 2023 by QWEEDDYZ
Necro is a great class. You can find it in Bel or Tchernobog.
I'll use the Necro's ability here.

Tchernobog (belzebub version lacks multiplayer and a new class)
I've played in an 8 player game that was absolutely awesome.
EIGHT PLAYERS.
I also have a warrior that uses two configurations.
I press the swap weapons key and go from precise spells to an axe.
I methodically work my way toward monsters, while launching firewall, ice blast, etc
But when I close it's still just as bad for them...
Monsters are like: "holy s$#@ he's not squishy at all!"
The characters are not defined in a restricted manner. There is no arbitrary stat maxes.
Skills and some weapon choices are given bonuses. They define, but don't entirely decide gameplay.
Whole reason why my barbarian uses a bow as a secondary weapon.
Or my rogue uses a mana regen townportal staff as a secondary option.
Belzebub is the version that comes with less stuff, but more polish (this is both a joke about qndel being polish and that polish also describes a sheen/laquer/finish or well finished product)

The Hell or the hell 2.
I've played them, some classes like alchemist are nearly unplayable because of elemental resistance, how the weapon functions, etc. Cool concepts, but they just don't quite hit right.
The ability points every level would be cooler if they had better effects.
Enemies end up with too many resistances and too many of them, or they are basic as possible and you steamroll.
I really respect the creators, but I can't say I recommend it as a primary mod. I'd install it as another alternate and try it. It's ok.

Hellfire.
Everything is wrong with this mod. Oh wait, you said the Awakening.
Oh yeah, my answer is still the same.
Super zoomed in. Nothing great. I wouldn't even bother installing.
No offense to creators. Then need to take it back to the shop.
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QWEEDDYZ: More than a dev - I am a consumer. :p
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Anders_Jenbo: I feel there is a tendency to forget that developers are also consumers.
Hello Anders. I noticed that for version 1.7 you are preparing "Game Hub" could you elaborate a bit on that? Are you going to expand the town or create another/alternative hub?
I am sorry for hijacking the thread.
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Anders_Jenbo: I feel there is a tendency to forget that developers are also consumers.
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Sulibor: Hello Anders. I noticed that for version 1.7 you are preparing "Game Hub" could you elaborate a bit on that? Are you going to expand the town or create another/alternative hub?
I am sorry for hijacking the thread.
Chat lobby
Maybe some sort of friends list and global chat
More detailed games list
Better options for how to create new games
In a old familiar layout

it's actually for 1.6.0 not 1.7.0. I already have some of it done, but I want 1.5.0 to be released soon.
Post edited March 29, 2023 by Anders_Jenbo
Thank you for reply Anders.