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Thank god we don´t have to worry about the ugly V with a proper character creator!
Thank god the street vermin are called PUNKS for a reason.
Thank god we have CHOICE ina HOPELESS ... DYSTOPIA.

Just a friendly reminder.

https://i.gyazo.com/bc3b1d2d235a154ba300ed1564d95c4f.mp4

Wait for release, see the credits screen, contemplate intellectually. THEN release the hounds if cd went woke and biased with lefty BS, but hey nowadays its woke wether you are one or the other. I guess maybe they can surprise us with some neutrality. But dont be surprised...... witcher 3 had some stronk women. Prepare.
Post edited March 17, 2020 by InnerConflict
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InnerConflict: Every game is not aimed only at me anymore, and I can't stand it!

[bohooo, whine, sob]
In case you have been missing crucial information: it is for me, i can stomp punk head in. and in case its lefty, then its hypocritical, forcing a bias. no matter what, only one gets hurt, the genre and cdproject, so i will enjoy the feast IF it comes to that.
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InnerConflict: In case you have been missing crucial information: it is for me, i can stomp punk head in. and in case its lefty, then its hypocritical, forcing a bias. no matter what, only one gets hurt, the genre and cdproject, so i will enjoy the feast IF it comes to that.
[rolleyes]
Post edited March 18, 2020 by lace_gardenia
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InnerConflict: In case you have been missing crucial information: it is for me, i can stomp punk head in. and in case its lefty, then its hypocritical, forcing a bias. no matter what, only one gets hurt, the genre and cdproject, so i will enjoy the feast IF it comes to that.
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lace_gardenia: [rolleyes]
we all hurt ourselves in our misguided confusions, number one lesson in cyberpunk
what´s most shameful is in fact the lack of pronounced intellectual discourse by pop cultural punks. maybe they lack some, maybe they don´t. Hopefully playing corporates leaves an option to pacify internally and crush the punks at the same time. we need men and women with integrity to lay down punk infantility and abuse of corporate power, i wonder what the mercs will be.
Post edited March 18, 2020 by InnerConflict
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lace_gardenia: [rolleyes]
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InnerConflict: we all hurt ourselves in our misguided confusions, number one lesson in cyberpunk
what´s most shameful is in fact the lack of pronounced intellectual discourse by pop cultural punks. maybe they lack some, maybe they don´t. Hopefully playing corporates leaves an option to pacify internally and crush the punks at the same time. we need men and women with integrity to lay down punk infantility and abuse of corporate power, i wonder what the mercs will be.
You might want to read the title of this game again.
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InnerConflict: we all hurt ourselves in our misguided confusions, number one lesson in cyberpunk
what´s most shameful is in fact the lack of pronounced intellectual discourse by pop cultural punks. maybe they lack some, maybe they don´t. Hopefully playing corporates leaves an option to pacify internally and crush the punks at the same time. we need men and women with integrity to lay down punk infantility and abuse of corporate power, i wonder what the mercs will be.
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lace_gardenia: You might want to read the title of this game again.
Ghost in the shell is cyberpunk but they don´t focus on punks at all. The genre name alone is no doctrine for a strict style focus or philosophy. What you mean is that the main focus from pondsmith was indeed the streets and not the skies with punk aesthetics. But it´s silly to think one can only focus on the lower aspect of life in a dystopia where the main goal is immortality, mad science and corporate ascendance. You show the weak ans strong of both worlds, it´s a massive intellectual failure if one only whines about inequality and poor quality of life. It´s even dumber if one focuses on gender and the biggest flaw that can happen is when one thinksthat you aren´t gonna deus ex your way from dirty streets to the highest tower. People want neon nights, mad science, corporate intrigue and less punk stories and that will happen even with the punk aesthetic everywhere. The streets are going to be a small part of the world, the most interesting parts will be the steel towers and the snakes in suits. Same with vampire the masquerade, anarchos played only a small role between the nobles, old gods and external factions. Even then, I wonder, will bloodlines 2 mistreat the high intellect of the first game for simpleton style over substance, it seems from what was shown they couldn´t even get goth right.

Why even bother redesigning a character to lower standards that has no value in a game with a character creator? because the redesigner had personal motives or because he misunderstood the aesthetic.

There will always be a powerhouse to conquer and rule, no matter what system, one like it always has been, has to reform from within that house not burn it down. the anarchism of punks is what needs to be self reflectingly addressed not glorified, it´s becuase of that infantile rebellish attitude that they are preyed upon, as they are not able toco-operate but in many cyberpunk novels the opposite had been explored. the focus is on the technology, not the rat lifestyle. and it´s here where a shallow rpg can transcend into a mature discussion like with the original deus ex. it´s a big challenge and all those left biased media i played always had a tendency to just screech about their own flaws being not flaws. There´s still a big question mark above the games title, will it be ancient wisdom or will it be modern lunacy.
Post edited March 18, 2020 by InnerConflict
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lace_gardenia: You might want to read the title of this game again.
Oh, going to demand from moderators to ban this person too, miZZUZ "liberally democratic" LGBT?
Ronald Reagan: ‘If Fascism Ever Comes to America, It Will Come in the Name of Liberalism’
Source: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ronald-reagan-fascism-liberalism/
Post edited March 18, 2020 by Yunipuma
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lace_gardenia: You might want to read the title of this game again.
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Yunipuma: Oh, going to demand from moderators to ban this person too, miZZUZ "liberally democratic" LGBT?
Ronald Reagan: ‘If Fascism Ever Comes to America, It Will Come in the Name of Liberalism’
Source: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ronald-reagan-fascism-liberalism/
You assume a lot about me, choombatta, and yet there is a rather big thing you have missed completely.

Do you need my help to insult me properly?
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Yunipuma: Oh, going to demand from moderators to ban this person too, miZZUZ "liberally democratic" LGBT?
Ronald Reagan: ‘If Fascism Ever Comes to America, It Will Come in the Name of Liberalism’
Source: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ronald-reagan-fascism-liberalism/
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lace_gardenia: You assume a lot about me, choombatta, and yet there is a rather big thing you have missed completely.

Do you need my help to insult me properly?
i never attacked you. it was never directly aimed, it was trying to make you discuss. big difference. what a focus you have though.

I´m left if i dislike the right, wrong, im right if i dislike the left, wrong, im center then? no, the closest you could say is bohemian, but that would be wrong too. what i love about cyberpunk is to take not a certain role, but in it´s rpg system to play your character in order to accomplish playing both sides, maybe like with the netrunners and voodoos? bloodlines made you choose no side, it punished you once you took a side!

in a world of conflict the wise get powerful, degenerate or hanged. i don´t want to support punks, they are not honorable, i don´t want to support the corporates who enslave lowers with their system structures, i just want to end dystopiia in a cyberpunk setting, focussing too much on one aspect makes it hard to roleplay out the neutral wise side. shooting suits and slaying anarchos can equally be amoral or moral, but what makes all the difference in the world is to stop bothj from crushing the last true wirtue of man. current politics, like in ancient hellenistic greece has shown it will repeat itself, this genre gives a chance to branch off to a totally different, a new future and it´s here where a game´s decisions must be designed from the get go. so in HOPES not BELIEFS, i went against the panic doers of new v, against degenerate leftists who think playing rebellion is just, it´s a new type of enlightened human who has to take control and manage to rule without chains. a chip of immortality for the main goal? that´s not gonna cut it, that´s the same fallacy half gods think they can rule for eternity, it would transcend into limbo, it´s here where you as the main char shape the next chapter for humanity, to end all wars, to not enter the limbo of wars, to stop cultural decline through technology and stop the self harm humanity does to itself with egoistic self focus, overhumanization, dehumanization and fake collectivism/individualism to turn humanity into harmony, respected their homes and races, to each, without disturbance, without mashing it into one giant blob of grey, pink or red, to establish the common sense that it needs a spiritual evolution that can bring forth a a new species, a new idea you can´t kill, that is not current but ascends above the zeitgeist, like every new chapter of history didm but avoid the repeat of mistakes new generations do as they don´t learn from prior consequences, contextually flawless. no one dares say what has to be said, only hunted and purged they will. talk to me, tell me, what will it be for you in this game, shallow topics we had all the time, or a new chapter of philosophy that brings cyberpunk from punk to evolution?

being the enemy of both also means being an enemy to everything known. it´s the unknown, the mystic the unexplored that wants us to see the light of the sun, once we grew too used to the light and dark, what´s on the other side of this dualism?

call me skeptical, cynical, mad, wrong assumed, narcisisstic, do whatever you must do to reimprint the reflection in the mirror, but can you shatter it and live by words alone?
Post edited March 18, 2020 by InnerConflict
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lace_gardenia: You assume a lot about me, choombatta, and yet there is a rather big thing you have missed completely.

Do you need my help to insult me properly?
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InnerConflict: i never attacked you. it was never directly aimed, it was trying to make you discuss.
I was replying to the other guy.
call me mad

Basically my attachment is the TL;DR version of this whole ordeal.
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Post edited March 19, 2020 by InnerConflict
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lace_gardenia: You might want to read the title of this game again.
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InnerConflict: WALL OF WORDS I DIDNT READ
Yeah, no.

No-one who uses "degeneracy" un-ironically is worth listening to.
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InnerConflict: WALL OF WORDS I DIDNT READ
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lace_gardenia: Yeah, no.

No-one who uses "degeneracy" un-ironically is worth listening to.
degeneracy or deficiency, what will it be, i could also use excess or golden mean but it seems your perception is too shallow and stops with words that have defintions such as degeneracy. punks are degenerate, deficient. that´s what makes their subculture stick to the streets. they intentionally don´t have the means to learn.

avoidance triggered by a word is degenerate in itself, you prove that point quite well.
seems i need to use the childsafe defintions then.
Post edited March 20, 2020 by InnerConflict
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lace_gardenia: Yeah, no.

No-one who uses "degeneracy" un-ironically is worth listening to.
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InnerConflict: avoidance triggered by a word is degenerate in itself, you prove that point quite well.
seems i need to use the childsafe defintions then.
Yes, how dare I react to people using words from the actual historical german nazi party playbook.