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In my experience I get the occasional CTD every now and again.

The new character quests are a serious nuisance though, very often I get get Hexxat stopped disarming traps/detecting illusions in place of dialogue and/or placeholder text in place of responses. I generally don't like them much though so it's not a major issue.

Actually I will add a fairly major gripe, the forge item parts do love to disappear entirely from my inventories very often, the equaliser pommel jewel and gauntlets of ogre power/Hands of Kattok are the usual culprits.
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I started a new game on Steam with the latest version of BG1:EE. I attached 2 pictures to show journal problems.

In the first picture I am talking to a farmer who has an eye for the riches of the Firewine Bridge ruins and my journal gets an update: A Farmer's Tales.

So I open the journal as you can see in the second picture. Click on "A FARMER's TALES" and.... nothing happens. It does not open anything. The icon on the left shows downwards indicating that I clicked it but there is nothing.

On the second picture you can also notice two "No Objective Text" lines. I am pretty sure that shouldn't be like that :)

On this play I also learned that Beamdog actually cut off some of the cinematics, like the one when you enter Beregost or Gnoll Stronghold, because of problems with those videos. I couldn't find the complete list.
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Engerek01: On the second picture you can also notice two "No Objective Text" lines. I am pretty sure that shouldn't be like that :)
That bug has been there from early on, maybe even the beginning, in both BG:EE and BG2:EE. The attached image is from a BG2:EE game saved around 2 years ago.
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Engerek01: I started a new game on Steam with the latest version of BG1:EE. I attached 2 pictures to show journal problems.

In the first picture I am talking to a farmer who has an eye for the riches of the Firewine Bridge ruins and my journal gets an update: A Farmer's Tales.

So I open the journal as you can see in the second picture. Click on "A FARMER's TALES" and.... nothing happens. It does not open anything. The icon on the left shows downwards indicating that I clicked it but there is nothing.

On the second picture you can also notice two "No Objective Text" lines. I am pretty sure that shouldn't be like that :)

On this play I also learned that Beamdog actually cut off some of the cinematics, like the one when you enter Beregost or Gnoll Stronghold, because of problems with those videos. I couldn't find the complete list.
They cut all the vids actually, and replaced them with some pics with animations on them. I guess they didn't have time to replace the Beregost, Nashkel and the Gnoll Fortress vids.

That being said I actually liked the new bits better. Those old cutscenes did look rather terrible.
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Stig79: That being said I actually liked the new bits better. Those old cutscenes did look rather terrible.
Are you mad? The new scenes are static "cardboard cutout" type crap. They're awful.
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Stig79: That being said I actually liked the new bits better. Those old cutscenes did look rather terrible.
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Hickory: Are you mad? The new scenes are static "cardboard cutout" type crap. They're awful.
Yes. I am completely insane!

I just like the new ones better. Thought they fit more than those blocky early 3D model ish cutscenes from the originals.
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Hickory: Are you mad? The new scenes are static "cardboard cutout" type crap. They're awful.
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Stig79: Yes. I am completely insane!

I just like the new ones better. Thought they fit more than those blocky early 3D model ish cutscenes from the originals.
Me too. That was one of my favourite things from the EE.
Think the originals are much better. They fit the game better, and have some "soul". The new ones are often just a picture with some effects, or overuse of lighting effects.

What is most staggering is that they managed to take a game that basically worked perfectly, and turn it into more bugs than a jar on Fear Factor.
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Pangaea666: Think the originals are much better. They fit the game better, and have some "soul". The new ones are often just a picture with some effects, or overuse of lighting effects.

What is most staggering is that they managed to take a game that basically worked perfectly, and turn it into more bugs than a jar on Fear Factor.
Not to mention completely destroy the character sprites.
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Oh right yeah, the journal. That thing is nearly completely useless. Good luck remembering side quests if you take a break from the game for a while.

How do you even f**k that up? Pretty special there bdog.
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Hickory: Are you mad? The new scenes are static "cardboard cutout" type crap. They're awful.
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Stig79: Yes. I am completely insane!

I just like the new ones better. Thought they fit more than those blocky early 3D model ish cutscenes from the originals.
I cannot stand the new cut scenes. For example, the way they butchered the intro is just disgusting. They even change the lines spoken by the characters so that it makes less sense and sounds substantially less intriguing. And it is completely static!

Edit: Yeah, the journal is completely screwed up. The old was was not perfect and probably could have been improved (it was somewhat tedious to find old quests, especially from previous chapters), but the new one just does not work at all! Is that was Beamdog means by "Enhanced"?
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Stig79: Yes. I am completely insane!

I just like the new ones better. Thought they fit more than those blocky early 3D model ish cutscenes from the originals.
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Lebesgue: I cannot stand the new cut scenes. For example, the way they butchered the intro is just disgusting. They even change the lines spoken by the characters so that it makes less sense and sounds substantially less intriguing. And it is completely static!

Edit: Yeah, the journal is completely screwed up. The old was was not perfect and probably could have been improved (it was somewhat tedious to find old quests, especially from previous chapters), but the new one just does not work at all! Is that was Beamdog means by "Enhanced"?
Ohh yeah. The opening cut scene should have been kept. The original was great.
To the original poster, I highly highly recommend you play the games on your own. You have them, so give them a shot.

No matter where you look, there seems to be no middle ground with the EEs. Some places you'll find people who love and adore it, and very few people who hate it. Other places (like here - not that that's a bad thing, everyone is entitled to their opinion) you'll find the complete opposite, where people hate them, and very few seem to enjoy them.

In both cases, people tend to make good points, and then there are also people who do whatever they can to make their opinion seem like the right one.

Welcome to the internet, I suppose.

In my opinion - The EEs are a blast. I've been playing them since ~2014, and never once experienced any bugs. Honestly - I've read a lot of people mention bugs in this thread, but I've yet to see any of them. The only thing I can deduce is perhaps some faulty installations, or something like that? No idea, but I haven't seen anything like disappearing items or continuous crashes.

I also think the new characters are great, too. Rasaad is a little lame, but Neera and Dorn are really fun characters, and Neera quickly became one of my favourite NPCs of the games. Baeloth is a fun little easter egg character, and Wilson is a bear. A BEAR. Granted, he's not the best companion, given the heavy focus on proper equipment and magic in BG2, but that's nothing a little modding can't fix. ;)

SoD is also a pretty good story, imho. Not the best story in the world (disclaimer - I also don't think the original BG storyline is the best), but fun nonetheless, and it serves as a good connector between the two games, rather than "lol you're in Athkatla now have fun." I think it also does a good job of fleshing out some of the more bland characters from BG1, like Safana. Beyond a few voiced lines (which every NPC has) she didn't have much of a personality in BG1, and SoD kind of solved that. If you don't own it, I high recommend picking it up if you get the chance, to at least form your own opinion on it. Personally, I don't consider a full playthrough complete unless I include SoD. I consider it the ToB of BG1.

As for the graphics, I was only a young kid when the originals were out, so my only memories of them are from watching my dad play them on our old Windows 95 desktop with a monitor that was probably heavier than me. I think the graphics of the EEs are fine, and do a good job of retaining a bit of a classic look, while also not looking too modern.

Overall, I highly, highly recommend the EEs. They're still the original games, with some upgrades and a couple new characters. I really don't see what there is to hate about them, but to each their own. That being said, I really think you should give them a shot. Forget about everything you've heard about them (including my own opinions) and form your own opinion. If you don't enjoy your time, that's fine. If you love them, that's fine as well. At the end of the day, they're games, and games are for having fun, right?
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Big_Lou: I've been playing them since ~2014, and never once experienced any bugs. Honestly - I've read a lot of people mention bugs in this thread, but I've yet to see any of them. The only thing I can deduce is perhaps some faulty installations, or something like that? No idea, but I haven't seen anything like disappearing items or continuous crashes.
You have rose coloured glasses. You only have to look in the bastion of love for these editions (Beamdog forums) to see the mountains of bugs reported (and most dismissed).
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Big_Lou: I've been playing them since ~2014, and never once experienced any bugs. Honestly - I've read a lot of people mention bugs in this thread, but I've yet to see any of them. The only thing I can deduce is perhaps some faulty installations, or something like that? No idea, but I haven't seen anything like disappearing items or continuous crashes.
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Hickory: You have rose coloured glasses. You only have to look in the bastion of love for these editions (Beamdog forums) to see the mountains of bugs reported (and most dismissed).
No rose coloured glasses here. Mine are pretty clear, if not a bit dirty if work is particularly busy that day. I said I have never seen any of these bugs. I didn't say no one else has experienced them, and offered the only logical explanation my technology-ignorant mind could figure out.

I'm sure the people who claim to experience bugs aren't lying. I'm also a member of the Beamdog forums, and though I haven't spent a lot of time in the bug reporting threads (because, like I said, I've had no reason to), I can say that Beamdog employees are extremely active over there, and do everything they can to help people out who might be having issues. On the same note, I've noticed that a fair number of bugs that get reported are individual instances - not something that can be actively recreated by others who do what the bug report details. You can't expect a company (a very small company, mind you) to release a "patch" every time a person claims to have experienced a bug. They're not as often "dismissed" as you claim, but rather deduced to be, like I said, individual instances.

Granted, should players be experiencing individual bugs/crashes in games they pay money for? Absolutely not. But the team does what they can, and I commend them for that, at least.

But, like I said before, I've never had any issues whatsoever with the EEs, and know a ton of people in the same boat as me. I just want the OP to understand that the games certainly aren't nearly as bug-ridden as the replies make them seem.