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I see some of the Triumph devs have been checking the posts here so I'd like to report a problem I'm having with AoW3 overheating my gtx670 video card running at 1920x1200 with the default 'high' settings. my card's fan goes nuts and the temps jump up over 90 degrees. I've run into this on only a few games previously and turning on vsynch normally is all I need to do. Since vsynch was already on by default I thought maybe it wasn't working right so I tried using the nvidia control panel to force it on. Unfortunately that didn't work.

What I did eventually after playing around with setting to bring the temps down was 3 things:

1) Turn off SAAO
2) Set display mode to fullscreen
3) Turn off reflections

After that the temps run around 75 degrees unless I select a unit to view stats on. It really really doesn't like the little popup 3D animation of the unit apparently because it spikes hugely in temperature when I do that.

Of course none of my new setting will stick so I have to redo them every time I run the game (as Guest) but I see the devs are aware of that issue already and it will be patched.

I't's a great game and I've enjoy it very much so far. Looking forward to a patch of two to fix rough edges like this one.
Thanks.
Post edited April 01, 2014 by coldsteel
My advice would be to pay attention to the airflow inside your case, make sure you have one chasis fan in front low position that sucks air from the outside into the case, the air should then go across your cards and CPU heatsink and leave your case via the PSU fans or backside chasis fan.

Make sure the airflow is not obstructed by bundled cables, and also that all the critical components are well vented.

Most of these problems come from poorly built computers or too small cases that have too many heat generating components crammed inside without providing proper ventilation.

Moreover, check your passive heatsinks below the fans for accumulated dust. Is it dirty, clogged? Use compressed air to blow the dust out.

GTX 670 is a high end card and they are tested to run at acceptable temperature on recommended clock speeds. If you overclocked, return clock values to the original/recommended settings.

Lastly, you may have a faulty piece, or improperly mounted heatsink, so as a last resort, you may want to consult a service center.

However, what you describe is very likely NOT the problem of this game. I have the same card as you, even the OC version running at higher clock settings, and I have experienced no overheating whatsoever.

Edit - I have just run a test using GPUZ, and the sensors report about 45 degrees Celsius on my GTX 670 steady, 1920x1080 resolution, all settings maxed. The framerates are not optimal, but the card does not show signs of overheating.

I recommend you to optimize the cooling of your case soon, because components wear down rapidly when running in extreme temperatures.
Post edited April 01, 2014 by Kamamura
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coldsteel: I see some of the Triumph devs have been checking the posts here so I'd like to report a problem I'm having with AoW3 overheating my gtx670 video card running at 1920x1200 with the default 'high' settings. my card's fan goes nuts and the temps jump up over 90 degrees. I've run into this on only a few games previously and turning on vsynch normally is all I need to do. Since vsynch was already on by default I thought maybe it wasn't working right so I tried using the nvidia control panel to force it on. Unfortunately that didn't work.

What I did eventually after playing around with setting to bring the temps down was 3 things:

1) Turn off SAAO
2) Set display mode to fullscreen
3) Turn off reflections

After that the temps run around 75 degrees unless I select a unit to view stats on. It really really doesn't like the little popup 3D animation of the unit apparently because it spikes hugely in temperature when I do that.

Of course none of my new setting will stick so I have to redo them every time I run the game (as Guest) but I see the devs are aware of that issue already and it will be patched.

I't's a great game and I've enjoy it very much so far. Looking forward to a patch of two to fix rough edges like this one.
Thanks.
Hi, please try EVGA tools and lock the max FPS, I did this with my older Nvidia 285 GTX card and it worked wonders. Also the same tool will allow for automatic fan speed control.

http://www.evga.com/precision/

Also I use a neat gadget from http://addgadgets.com/ GPU meter. It tracks GPU temp, fan speed, memory load and has a nice bar graph so when you drop back to your desktop it will show how it has been doing over the last 30 seconds or so. Also you can set it to sound an alarm at a specific GPU temp to help with catching over heats before they get serious.

I hope this helps : )
Post edited April 01, 2014 by syncron09
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Kamamura: My advice would be to pay attention to the airflow inside your case, make sure you have one chasis fan in front low position that sucks air from the outside into the case, the air should then go across your cards and CPU heatsink and leave your case via the PSU fans or backside chasis fan.

Make sure the airflow is not obstructed by bundled cables, and also that all the critical components are well vented.

Most of these problems come from poorly built computers or too small cases that have too many heat generating components crammed inside without providing proper ventilation.

Moreover, check your passive heatsinks below the fans for accumulated dust. Is it dirty, clogged? Use compressed air to blow the dust out.

GTX 670 is a high end card and they are tested to run at acceptable temperature on recommended clock speeds. If you overclocked, return clock values to the original/recommended settings.

Lastly, you may have a faulty piece, or improperly mounted heatsink, so as a last resort, you may want to consult a service center.

However, what you describe is very likely NOT the problem of this game. I have the same card as you, even the OC version running at higher clock settings, and I have experienced no overheating whatsoever.

Edit - I have just run a test using GPUZ, and the sensors report about 45 degrees Celsius on my GTX 670 steady, 1920x1080 resolution, all settings maxed. The framerates are not optimal, but the card does not show signs of overheating.

I recommend you to optimize the cooling of your case soon, because components wear down rapidly when running in extreme temperatures.
Thanks for the advice but none of the issues you cite are factors here. I run the card at stock speeds and don't overclock at all. The ventilation is excellent, the case and PC almost new. I play many modern games and only two have given me any kind of an issue with temps. Neither one had a vsynch setting in game so I had to force it on using the nvidia app. After that all was fine. This is the only game I've played that has had these kinds of issues and that's why I reported it here so the devs could take note and look at the optimization they are doing.

I also saw that someone with the same card that I have posted a report like mine on the Steam forums so I think it's a game issue and not a system cooling issue.
The problem is that when your overheating manifests itself by crashing and visual artifacts, it's usually way beyond safe limits. Your "I just turn on VSYNC and it helps" is a bad approach to the problem - you should always make sure your components run at safe temperatures, which is 60-70 degrees max. Any more than that, and you lower their life expectancy significantly.

You say "ventilation is excellent", but is it just your impression, or did you perform any hard data measuring? Run a sensor measuring utility, then start games you usually play without problems, and record your temperatures into a graph. I bet that your temperatures will be high also in other applications, just not so much that you experience any visible symptoms, but that does not mean it's okay.

The age of your hardware may not be relevant - if the computer is poorly build, or the coolers are of low quality/insufficient performance, age is not a factor.
Post edited April 01, 2014 by Kamamura
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coldsteel: I see some of the Triumph devs have been checking the posts here so I'd like to report a problem I'm having with AoW3 overheating my gtx670 video card running at 1920x1200 with the default 'high' settings. my card's fan goes nuts and the temps jump up over 90 degrees. I've run into this on only a few games previously and turning on vsynch normally is all I need to do. Since vsynch was already on by default I thought maybe it wasn't working right so I tried using the nvidia control panel to force it on. Unfortunately that didn't work.

What I did eventually after playing around with setting to bring the temps down was 3 things:

1) Turn off SAAO
2) Set display mode to fullscreen
3) Turn off reflections

After that the temps run around 75 degrees unless I select a unit to view stats on. It really really doesn't like the little popup 3D animation of the unit apparently because it spikes hugely in temperature when I do that.

Of course none of my new setting will stick so I have to redo them every time I run the game (as Guest) but I see the devs are aware of that issue already and it will be patched.

I't's a great game and I've enjoy it very much so far. Looking forward to a patch of two to fix rough edges like this one.
Thanks.
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syncron09: Hi, please try EVGA tools and lock the max FPS, I did this with my older Nvidia 285 GTX card and it worked wonders. Also the same tool will allow for automatic fan speed control.

http://www.evga.com/precision/

Also I use a neat gadget from http://addgadgets.com/ GPU meter. It tracks GPU temp, fan speed, memory load and has a nice bar graph so when you drop back to your desktop it will show how it has been doing over the last 30 seconds or so. Also you can set it to sound an alarm at a specific GPU temp to help with catching over heats before they get serious.

I hope this helps : )
Hi, my card is actually an EVGA and I use the Precision tool to track temps and fan speeds. it is already set for automatic fan speed control. It also has performance graphs for temps and other card variables which is what I used to monitor AoW3. I haven't tried locking the FPS because I use vsynch which should already have locked it at 60 FPS but I guess I could do that to verify if vsynch is working properly in game.
And what temperatures do you typically reach when playing games like Battlefield?
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Kamamura: The problem is that when your overheating manifests itself by crashing and visual artifacts, it's usually way beyond safe limits. Your "I just turn on VSYNC and it helps" is a bad approach to the problem - you should always make sure your components run at safe temperatures, which is 60-70 degrees max. Any more than that, and you lower their life expectancy significantly.

You say "ventilation is excellent", but is it just your impression, or did you perform any hard data measuring? Run a sensor measuring utility, then start games you usually play without problems, and record your temperatures into a graph. I bet that your temperatures will be high also in other applications, just not so much that you experience any visible symptoms, but that does not mean it's okay.

The age of your hardware may not be relevant - if the computer is poorly build, or the coolers are of low quality/insufficient performance, age is not a factor.
I have never had any visual effects or had a crash. The system is a well built system with quality components. I only have used the vsynch option on the 2 games where my fan started making any noise.

As for the hard data measuring, yes. I have in fact already done as you suggested using the EVGA Precision tool to produce temperature graphs when I get a new game. The card runs at 60-70 degrees in all my other games. I'm pretty paranoid about running a cool system. My fan never makes noise so when it does, like this time, I pay attention to it. I don't know why you are insisting it's a problem with my system and not the game since this is the outlier and not the norm.
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Kamamura: And what temperatures do you typically reach when playing games like Battlefield?
I think my last post covers that. My purpose in creating this topic was to report this for Triumph's attention since they monitor this forum and not to seek system advice from forum goers. I believe that's been accomplished so I'm done.
Post edited April 01, 2014 by coldsteel
I think I understand. You are not interested in understanding the problem nor finding a solution, but rather want to get attention to an issue based on vague impressions. Since a computer overheating is never a problem of software, I wish you good luck with it.
Post edited April 01, 2014 by Kamamura
So turn down the settings, maybe they'll improve it with a patch. Are you an eye-candy retard? Oblivion ran just fine on my computer, I ran it on the lowest setting anyway because I don't want to make my card do any lifting. I have great empathy for computer hardware.
Post edited April 01, 2014 by BlaneckW
I saw a post on another forum about this issue and so tried increasing the game's graphics setting from 'High' to 'Ultra' Sure enough the game now runs at temps of 65 to 70. So, I'm good to go. Something is obviously not right with their settings but hopefully they'll fix it in a patch.
This happens on every thread I read and it's maddening. If there were a problem with the OP's ariflow or dust buildup, ALL their games would be overheating, not just AOW3. If it's just select games, the problem is with the software.

I'll redownloard and try setting the game to Ultra and see what happens to the temperatures. Thanks for the tip!
Post edited March 06, 2015 by MischiefMaker
Take the side panel off your machine. Unless it is a laptop...then that is just silly ;)
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MischiefMaker: This happens on every thread I read and it's maddening. If there were a problem with the OP's ariflow or dust buildup, ALL their games would be overheating, not just AOW3.
That's not true. This game may use hardware in a way many others don't, but that has nothing to do with overheating, and it doesn't necessarily mean anything's wrong with the game. If the GPU is overheating, it's a hardware problem (or the GPU has been overclocked at some point, in which case all bets are off).

The GPU and cooling system should work together to keep it at a reasonable temperature regardless of what it's doing.
I don't know why some as so stubborn to just dismiss reality...What happens with *some* games (I had the case with Expedition Conquistador) is that they push the GPU to the max, even if quality/fps are more than correct, and the card starts heating.
The OP has the same issue with this game, and is not alone as I've seen other posts elsewhere with the same issue, on Nvidia cards. It's not due to his hardware/aircooling/whatever, he is not mad, this game has a problem with certain cards and certain settings, ditto.