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Hiiri: Na, only defense they need is to make more great games like this with amazing characters and interesting storylines.
Besides, when was the last time you stopped to debate some random loon on a street corner whether the end is really nigh?
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LeonardoCornejo: I just hope they don't end up starting to censor things and trying to be more politically correct. And well, if the loon is gathering other loons and organizing them to attack those who disagree then defending ourselves would be wise.
Actually CDPR may have erred. Why are women in the game allowed to be naked as in "baby suit" with all their glory?

While Geralt uses a knobhider?
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LeonardoCornejo: I just hope they don't end up starting to censor things and trying to be more politically correct. And well, if the loon is gathering other loons and organizing them to attack those who disagree then defending ourselves would be wise.
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thelostdunmer: Actually CDPR may have erred. Why are women in the game allowed to be naked as in "baby suit" with all their glory?

While Geralt uses a knobhider?
Maybe because not many players wan't to see penises, and in some countries (Japan) penises are actually banned. Seriously, even female gamers say they don't feel like seing penises in video games. Let's just say the male sexual body parts easily vissible in frontal nudity are not as pleasant as the female ones. Not to mention they requre more modeling and ressources. I mean, have you played Outlast? It has its fair share of sausage, but it makes it cringeworthy. Not to mention that the lack of penises in a game whose primary audience are adult males does not make the game misogynist, sexist, or full of "toxic masculinity".
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Nokturnalex: Wanna know the best way to defeat stupid as hell Femnazis and Social Justice Warriors?

Ignore them.

Stop talking about them and definitely stop talking to them.

They're like trolls in that respect. You're not going to change their moronic opinions and by giving them any sort of attention you're provoking them and giving them what they want, attention and money from click-bait articles.

Polygon has been a joke for a long, long time. A terrible gaming new site, but same can be said for PC Gamer and Kotaku, all of them have done things that have made me lose what little respect I had for them. (Pure click-bait articles, no real journalism to be seen, copy-pasting press releases, taking obvious bribes, etc)

If you want educated opinions from gamers find a YouTube personality you can agree with and I personally have found the writers for Forbes to be reliable sources of gaming information as of late.

I suggest SuperBunnyHop as a good youtube reviewer btw. He actually does his homework and does real journalism, omg the thought! AngryJoe has his merits as well, though I haven't agreed with everything he's said. He's not a journalist though, just a critic.
It is hard to ignore them when at least one game could have been rejected because of their pressure. They are a minority of idiots, but they are a very vocal and hostile minority which is capable, and willing to cause real harm.
Post edited June 01, 2015 by LeonardoCornejo
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Nokturnalex: Wanna know the best way to defeat stupid as hell Femnazis and Social Justice Warriors?

Ignore them.

Stop talking about them and definitely stop talking to them.

They're like trolls in that respect. You're not going to change their moronic opinions and by giving them any sort of attention you're provoking them and giving them what they want, attention and money from click-bait articles.

Polygon has been a joke for a long, long time. A terrible gaming new site, but same can be said for PC Gamer and Kotaku, all of them have done things that have made me lose what little respect I had for them. (Pure click-bait articles, no real journalism to be seen, copy-pasting press releases, taking obvious bribes, etc)

If you want educated opinions from gamers find a YouTube personality you can agree with and I personally have found the writers for Forbes to be reliable sources of gaming information as of late.

I suggest SuperBunnyHop as a good youtube reviewer btw. He actually does his homework and does real journalism, omg the thought! AngryJoe has his merits as well, though I haven't agreed with everything he's said. He's not a journalist though, just a critic.
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LeonardoCornejo: It is hard to ignore them when at least one game could have been rejected because of their pressure. They are a minority of idiots, but they are a very vocal and hostile minority which is capable, and willing to cause real harm.
That is the exact reason why you should ignore them. Any publicity, good or bad, only advances their cause as they get the publicity they crave for in the first place.
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LeonardoCornejo: The Witcher 3 is possibly one of the best open world games of the decade, and much likelly the best way to conclude an awesome game series.

However, this does not keep it safe from attacks by politically correct would be censors and SJWs. There are articles from sites such as Polygon branding the game as sexist and misogynist. The parody of a man John McIntosh claims Geralt of Rivia, one of the greatest characters ever created, is an example of toxic masculinity and completelly devoid of emotion.

I am tired of seing this, and after what happened with Hatred many think you guys at CDP are held at "gunpoint" by this SJWs. Many think you are unable to defend yourselves or your ideals. Many think you will end up caving in and supporting censorship.

Let me make it clear, I am not asking you to release Hatred, this is not the thread to do that. I am asking you to not let others attack YOUR game, to not let othrs censor it, and to not censor it yourselves out of peer presure.

I am tired of seeing moralists flinging shit at one of my favorite video game series. And I think it is time to fight back. I think you should defend your work, your dream as you put it in the artbook. You cant just let these people attack your masterpiece, your baby. I don't know how to reach you guys to tell you this, so I am using this thread to do that. Defend yourselves, show them you are not going to bow to their will.
Sales and Players speak for themselves. The Witcher has a huge fan base and as long as that is the case. CDPR will continue to give them what they want and the complainers be damned. To paraphrase what CDPR has said on the subject, they will NOT arbitrarily put sex and nudity into a game just to put it in there. If the flow of the story takes it in that direction, they they will meet it head on and not shirk away from it, and that is the way it should be. In short, they will do their thing and will not be influenced by a bunch of outsiders.
Post edited June 01, 2015 by coastie65
the one thing i hate about SJW and other hyppocrits of same kind is they just lack the most basic logic about putting things into context !

that is same kind of stupid moronity that forces moviemakers to use ethnic quotas in each and every stuff made, even historical setting movies... That way, you end up seeing asiatics, middle oriental and african looking actors and characters too (with reccuring roles) in movies or series about ancient rome, medieval europe or even north/vikings or arthur mythos !!!

for god sake ! i am not racist, i dont mind nor dislike either non-white people, actors or characters. As long as the person is a nice fellow humanly speaking, the actor is good screenwise or the character is well built regarding the story and context, i'm ok with all that... but when it's all made up and forced upon with a brainless rage of false virtue, it's just stupid !

I am yet not quite sure if the witcher world's is indeed real dark ages europa, or a completely built imaginary world at all, yet the whole thing seems a lot to remind viewers and readers about the 12th or 13th century central europe.

and as such, sorry, there was NO woman/man equality at that time, nor there were bunches of afro, asiate or arabic looking folks either ! if you want a dark ages europa looking the way SJW are masturbating about in their wet dream, you have to completely build an uchrony from scratch ! and rewrite more than 15 centuries of history ! sorry i rather enjoye decent games and do more concrete actions about social equity IRL when i turn my game off, rather than pissing people off forcing everything upon a twisted hyppocrit vision.

about misoginy and such... also remember than many main characters in witcher story are women, powerful ones in fact (sorceress and mages), also try to drive deep into your skull the whole process of becoming a witcher (harsh training and mutations and such) that surely affect both your body and mind because of the chemicals and the trauma...

i should stop ever reading about this or writing about because i just get angered every line !
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Djaron: the one thing i hate about SJW and other hyppocrits of same kind is they just lack the most basic logic about putting things into context !

that is same kind of stupid moronity that forces moviemakers to use ethnic quotas in each and every stuff made, even historical setting movies... That way, you end up seeing asiatics, middle oriental and african looking actors and characters too (with reccuring roles) in movies or series about ancient rome, medieval europe or even north/vikings or arthur mythos !!!

for god sake ! i am not racist, i dont mind nor dislike either non-white people, actors or characters. As long as the person is a nice fellow humanly speaking, the actor is good screenwise or the character is well built regarding the story and context, i'm ok with all that... but when it's all made up and forced upon with a brainless rage of false virtue, it's just stupid !

I am yet not quite sure if the witcher world's is indeed real dark ages europa, or a completely built imaginary world at all, yet the whole thing seems a lot to remind viewers and readers about the 12th or 13th century central europe.

and as such, sorry, there was NO woman/man equality at that time, nor there were bunches of afro, asiate or arabic looking folks either ! if you want a dark ages europa looking the way SJW are masturbating about in their wet dream, you have to completely build an uchrony from scratch ! and rewrite more than 15 centuries of history ! sorry i rather enjoye decent games and do more concrete actions about social equity IRL when i turn my game off, rather than pissing people off forcing everything upon a twisted hyppocrit vision.

about misoginy and such... also remember than many main characters in witcher story are women, powerful ones in fact (sorceress and mages), also try to drive deep into your skull the whole process of becoming a witcher (harsh training and mutations and such) that surely affect both your body and mind because of the chemicals and the trauma...

i should stop ever reading about this or writing about because i just get angered every line !
Then it should anger you more that it might be because of SJWs that HAtred was not released on GOG, because, according to the creators of the game, GOG told them the game is good, but they can't release it. Why do you think a company which has no fear of releasing Postal (Hatred is more or less a Postal clone) would say they can't release its replica? Well there is a simple reason, some SJW group or SJW dev(s) got them by the balls and told GOG "If you release this game we will make business a hell for you) For all we know it could be Corrupt King Phill Fish threatening with removing his game from the catalog. We know for sure GOG would refuse to lose even a single game for the sake of releasing a Postal clone, so it is possible a SJW dev team or publisher threatened them with exactly that. Call me tinfoil hat theorist or whatever, but after seing SJWs making death threats and going very far with their actions I would not be surprised.
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Nokturnalex: Wanna know the best way to defeat stupid as hell Femnazis and Social Justice Warriors?

Ignore them.

Stop talking about them and definitely stop talking to them.
This. Defenitely this.
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Nokturnalex: Wanna know the best way to defeat stupid as hell Femnazis and Social Justice Warriors?

Ignore them.

Stop talking about them and definitely stop talking to them.
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MikeMaximus: This. Defenitely this.
Agreed. People are giving these drama queens and their complaints far more attention than they deserve.


( P.S.: Definitely. Sorry, but I see people misspell that one all the time. :P )
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LeonardoCornejo: Then it should anger you more that it might be because of SJWs that HAtred was not released on GOG, because, according to the creators of the game, GOG told them the game is good, but they can't release it. Why do you think a company which has no fear of releasing Postal (Hatred is more or less a Postal clone) would say they can't release its replica? Well there is a simple reason, some SJW group or SJW dev(s) got them by the balls and told GOG "If you release this game we will make business a hell for you) For all we know it could be Corrupt King Phill Fish threatening with removing his game from the catalog. We know for sure GOG would refuse to lose even a single game for the sake of releasing a Postal clone, so it is possible a SJW dev team or publisher threatened them with exactly that. Call me tinfoil hat theorist or whatever, but after seing SJWs making death threats and going very far with their actions I would not be surprised.
My guess regarding a GOG release of Hatred? The simple truth is probably, that they just find it too controversial and polarizing at this time. Right now there's a minority of people complaining because GOG won't release it, but most likely another vocal minority would object if they decided to release it. I consider myself part of the majority of GOG users who simply don't care either way.

I'd say a GOG release of the game is far more likely a few months down the road, when the situation has calmed down a bit. They probably just want to play it safe and see how things develop.
Post edited June 01, 2015 by CharlesGrey
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Nokturnalex: Wanna know the best way to defeat stupid as hell Femnazis and Social Justice Warriors?
Ignore them.
Stop talking about them and definitely stop talking to them.
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MikeMaximus: This. Defenitely this.
I kinda disagree. They're not the type of troll that goes away when ignored. If left to their own devices they will multiply and fester. They need to be called out, their insanity pointed and laughed at at every turn.

Luckily, I'm not too worried. Witcher 3 is on it's way to be one of the best reviewed games this year and currently Hatred is selling like hotcakes, topping the charts on Steam.

As long as we support things we love, everything is going to be ok.
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MikeMaximus: This. Defenitely this.
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CharlesGrey: Agreed. People are giving these drama queens and their complaints far more attention than they deserve.

( P.S.: Definitely. Sorry, but I see people misspell that one all the time. :P )
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LeonardoCornejo: Then it should anger you more that it might be because of SJWs that HAtred was not released on GOG, because, according to the creators of the game, GOG told them the game is good, but they can't release it. Why do you think a company which has no fear of releasing Postal (Hatred is more or less a Postal clone) would say they can't release its replica? Well there is a simple reason, some SJW group or SJW dev(s) got them by the balls and told GOG "If you release this game we will make business a hell for you) For all we know it could be Corrupt King Phill Fish threatening with removing his game from the catalog. We know for sure GOG would refuse to lose even a single game for the sake of releasing a Postal clone, so it is possible a SJW dev team or publisher threatened them with exactly that. Call me tinfoil hat theorist or whatever, but after seing SJWs making death threats and going very far with their actions I would not be surprised.
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CharlesGrey: My guess regarding a GOG release of Hatred? The simple truth is probably, that they just find it too controversial and polarizing at this time. Right now there's a minority of people complaining because GOG won't release it, but most likely another vocal minority would object if they decided to release it. I consider myself part of the majority of GOG users who simply don't care either way.

I'd say a GOG release of the game is far more likely a few months down the road, when the situation has calmed down a bit. They probably just want to play it safe and see how things develop.
I hope you are right.
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MikeMaximus: This. Defenitely this.
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cach: I kinda disagree. They're not the type of troll that goes away when ignored. If left to their own devices they will multiply and fester. They need to be called out, their insanity pointed and laughed at at every turn.

Luckily, I'm not too worried. Witcher 3 is on it's way to be one of the best reviewed games this year and currently Hatred is selling like hotcakes, topping the charts on Steam.

As long as we support things we love, everything is going to be ok.
That is exactly what I think based on my experience. Fortunatelly it seems the Femfreq idiots managed to anger a rather large fanbase this time, and one which is capable of countering their nonsense in stead of just telling them to die.
Post edited June 02, 2015 by LeonardoCornejo
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LeonardoCornejo: That is exactly what I think based on my experience. Fortunatelly it seems the Femfreq idiots managed to anger a rather large fanbase this time, and one which is capable of countering their nonsense in stead of just telling them to die.
What's the difference anyway? It's not like you're going to convince them that they are wrong.

You know what they say: "Never argue with an idiot." ( Or an extremist. )
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LeonardoCornejo: That is exactly what I think based on my experience. Fortunatelly it seems the Femfreq idiots managed to anger a rather large fanbase this time, and one which is capable of countering their nonsense in stead of just telling them to die.
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CharlesGrey: What's the difference anyway? It's not like you're going to convince them that they are wrong.

You know what they say: "Never argue with an idiot." ( Or an extremist. )
The problem is that somehow their idiocy sounds believable to the naive and the guilible, therefore if not proven wrong, others will follow them and listen and believe thier lies.
Post edited June 02, 2015 by LeonardoCornejo
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LeonardoCornejo: The problem is that somehow their idiocy sounds believable to the naive and the guilible, therefore if not proven wrong, others will follow them and listen and believe thier lies.
Oh well... good ol' propaganda. ^_^
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LeonardoCornejo: The problem is that somehow their idiocy sounds believable to the naive and the guilible, therefore if not proven wrong, others will follow them and listen and believe thier lies.
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Chimgog: Oh well... good ol' propaganda. ^_^
Yes, the "listen and believe" phrase was a piece of propaganda made by Anita Sarkeesian, that is what the likes of her do, making propaganda.
Thing is what they're saying is right, 90% atleast. Unfortunately they don't understand the industry enough to offer a valid point of criticism, so we just get the crap we get.

Games ARE heavily sexist and mysogenistic. However they usually tend to target the games where thats part of the setting, and valid in the context. Take the Witcher series for example, it's a dark medieval fantasy. You bet your ass women are oppressed. But at the same time so are so many others in the series, dwarves, elves, regardless of their sex. Hell even the Witchers, who frankly are in a worse position than women.

But people tend to fixate on the women and ignore the rest.

However in other games, Far Cry, Call of Duty, Battlefield, Assassins Creed to name a few, having women protagonists (or even the ability to choose man or woman!) would be more than doable. They simply choose not to, and throw out stupid arguments like 'money'.