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After successfully being able to reproduce the issue on my end also, I decided to check the game code responsible for handling the well -- it turns out you simply must have atleast 5000 gold in your inventory to make a wish (I was not aware of this mechanic myself either as I've always avoided using that well)
Post edited May 29, 2017 by Emjayen.
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Emjayen.: After successfully being able to reproduce the issue on my end also, I decided to check the game code responsible for handling the well -- it turns out you simply must have atleast 5000 gold in your inventory to make a wish (I was not aware of this mechanic myself either as I've always avoided using that well)
:D Thank you Emjayen.
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Emjayen.: After successfully being able to reproduce the issue on my end also, I decided to check the game code responsible for handling the well -- it turns out you simply must have atleast 5000 gold in your inventory to make a wish (I was not aware of this mechanic myself either as I've always avoided using that well)
Hmm, I wonder if that's part of the storyline at all. Seems like something that would be revealed in-game, perhaps by chatting with the NPCs, if MM6 is any guide to how MM7 would be. Maybe someday I'll get MM7 and find out.
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Emjayen.: After successfully being able to reproduce the issue on my end also, I decided to check the game code responsible for handling the well -- it turns out you simply must have atleast 5000 gold in your inventory to make a wish (I was not aware of this mechanic myself either as I've always avoided using that well)
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thomq: Hmm, I wonder if that's part of the storyline at all. Seems like something that would be revealed in-game, perhaps by chatting with the NPCs, if MM6 is any guide to how MM7 would be. Maybe someday I'll get MM7 and find out.
I do vaguely recall the well's existence being alluded to by an NPC somewhere -- not related to the storyline, however.

I'd highly recommend trying M&M7 (not so much 8 or later, however)
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Emjayen.: After successfully being able to reproduce the issue on my end also, I decided to check the game code responsible for handling the well -- it turns out you simply must have atleast 5000 gold in your inventory to make a wish (I was not aware of this mechanic myself either as I've always avoided using that well)
I was the one who created the speedrun and I can verify that the 5000 minimum gold is indeed correct. It's one of the things that came up when I was planning the speedrun route.

Here's a link to the original route planning:
https://forum.speeddemosarchive.com/post/might_and_magic_7_speedrun_55.html

There also seems to be a weird bug where if you have *exactly* 5000 gold, it just takes the gold and gives you nothing. More than 5000 gold works fine though.
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gammadragon: There also seems to be a weird bug where if you have *exactly* 5000 gold, it just takes the gold and gives you nothing. More than 5000 gold works fine though.
That's interesting. I'd have to verify, but my guess is that due to how the game's implemented it's scripting system, the comparison result >= (rather than >) is somehow influencing the PRNG such that some bits are not being permutated during the subsequent "random" branching that handles the well's effects.

That or the entire thing is just broken.
Post edited May 29, 2017 by Emjayen.
Thanks, everyone.

I thinks the authors intended it to be: take 5000 gold and give a wish in return. It ended up broken however.
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Emjayen.: After successfully being able to reproduce the issue on my end also, I decided to check the game code responsible for handling the well -- it turns out you simply must have atleast 5000 gold in your inventory to make a wish (I was not aware of this mechanic myself either as I've always avoided using that well)
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gammadragon: I was the one who created the speedrun and I can verify that the 5000 minimum gold is indeed correct. It's one of the things that came up when I was planning the speedrun route.

Here's a link to the original route planning:
https://forum.speeddemosarchive.com/post/might_and_magic_7_speedrun_55.html

There also seems to be a weird bug where if you have *exactly* 5000 gold, it just takes the gold and gives you nothing. More than 5000 gold works fine though.
Good job with the speedrun.

How did you stumbled upon what is needed in order for wishing well to work?
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Kj32jcx8932bd423: Good job with the speedrun.
Thanks

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Kj32jcx8932bd423: How did you stumbled upon what is needed in order for wishing well to work?
I got to pretty much the same point as you did, but I also had a few other savegames where I knew the well was working. I tried to figure out what the difference was between the two games and eventually figured out the link to gold.

I came to the same conclusion as ZFR too - originally I think it was meant to take 5000 gold and give a random result in return, but then the logic somehow didn't work and it probably never really came up during QA testing as it seemed to work fine. Lacking 5000 gold at that late stage of the game is probably a situation that never really came up :)