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Jade Empire for $5.99! Theme Hospital, Dungeon Keeper Gold, Syndicate Plus, and more, for only $2.39!

This weekend we're all about classics! There's 33 exciting games that you can get with a 60% off discount in our [url=http://www.gog.com/promo/exciting_ea_exclusives_111013]Exciting EA Exclusives weekend promo. With a vast selection of retro-gems priced at only $2.39 each, and two relatively newer titles (which are vastly considered classics as well) for only $3.99 and $5.99, it's safe to say, that you can not often find better value for your money in the gaming world. That's not all, however! Every purchase you'll make grants you a free copy of The Witcher: Enhanced Edition! If you already own it on GOG.com, we will email you a gift-able code, so you can pass it on to someone who hadn't had the chance to meet Geralt of Rivia yet. Now, let's take a quick look at some of the featured games, shall we?

First of all, let's look at the classic Bullfrog Production titles, because just recently they've undergone some major upgrades. Syndicate received the American Revolt mission pack taking the future corporate executive work to a whole new level of awesome, thus becoming Syndicate Plus. Similarly, the fantasy underworld management game, Dungeon Keeper, became Dungeon Keeper Gold, with extra added evil in the form of the Deeper Dungeons expansion. Hidden Worlds have been discovered in the Arabian desert, making Magic Carpet into Magic Carpet Plus. now invites you to the <i>Promised Lands</i> filled with new challenges, and [url=http://www.gog.com/game/populous_the_beginning]Populous: The Beginning has yet some Undiscovered Worlds in store for you. Each of them can be yours for only $2.39, each!

Jade Empire: Special Edition opens the land of kung fu legends before you and lets you immerse yourself in the fantastic version of the Orient. In this RPG classic brought to you by people who gave us RPG gaming monuments like Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Nights, you'll discover an epic tale of courage, power, honor, and betrayal set in one of the most colorful and suggestive gameworlds ever created. Master one of the unique fighting styles and train your own disciples who will rise to power along your side. Choose your own path and become a hero or a villain in your very own martial arts legend. The extended Special Edition of the game even comes bundled with an MP3 soundtrack. Don't miss this fantastic opportunity for epic adventure, while it's only $5.99 to start your oriental journey!

That's only a few titles from the selection of 33 games you can grab 60% off this weekend in our Exciting EA Exclusives promo. Head out to the promo page, to see them all! The offer lasts until Tuesday, October 15, at 3:59AM GMT. Don't miss out!
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Trilarion: I guess this giveaway of Witcher 1 is not only to boost sales on GOG but also to increase demand for upcoming Witcher 3.
You may have found out the sinister truth behind our plans.
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Erich_Zann: So don't fear, and bask into the glory of the best 4X ever made (next to Master of Magic).
Sounds good. I've been eyeing MOM too actually but there's a Christmas so might look into it then. Bookmarked that spiritual successor of at kickstarter too.

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Erich_Zann: Just remember to play without the expansion first.
I always do.

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Erich_Zann: Oh, and since you wondered about Lands of Lore : you only really need the first one.
What's wrong with 2 and 3?
Nice, was expecting a JE promo (I have the retail version and already finshed twice, but a digital backup copy is always useful). Regarding the other games, already have almost of them, except the Wing Commander series (I'm a very bad player with combat flying simulators, inclusive the space ones, then I very rarely will buy one of these types), the Crusader games (don't know if I will like, normally I prefer ARPGs, not pure shooter games in isometric action games) and Alpha Centaury (never played a Civilization-like game, looks too much micro-management)
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Erich_Zann: Four games missing, and I don't give a flying fuck about Medal of Honor, so that makes three.
Is Jade Empire worth it for six bucks, or is it already on the dating sim side of Bioware ?
I liked, the combat is similar to KOTOR, but more action-oriented. The game have the possibility of romance, but is optional

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tinyE: Is there a playable demo for Jade Empire?
No, but if you liked KOTOR, will like this one, is only a different setting
Post edited October 11, 2013 by gandalf.nho
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Erich_Zann: Just remember to play without the expansion first.
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keeveek: Why? I jumped right into Alien Xfire and I didn't die.
Maybe it's just me, but I think that since most of the new factions are either specialized versions of the original ones, or "cheating" ones (I mean that they plain ignore some aspects of the game, like the seasettling pirates or the aliens do) it's better to play vanilla first.
Makes sense from a storyline point of view too, if you care about this kind of things in a 4X (I don't).

Edit : I'm not dissing the expansion, it's excellent. But the base game is already superb by itself, something which is not that common anymore for 4X's...
Post edited October 11, 2013 by Erich_Zann
Wow great lot of games. They must be I own all but one of them. I might as well pickup the last one "Strike Commander" I'm not much of a flight sim / combat player, but you included screenshots of hot yet pixelated women. Damn you targeting the primitive parts of my brain.
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Erich_Zann: Maybe it's just me, but I think that since most of the new factions are either specialized versions of the original ones, or "cheating" ones (I mean that they plain ignore some aspects of the game, like the seasettling pirates or the aliens do) it's better to play vanilla first.
I played the expansion but I chose the standard class to begin with. But I think it's better to start from a bigger game, but whatever others like.

Civ3 I started from complete as well. Civ 4 too.
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gandalf.nho: Nice, was expecting a JE promo (I have the retail version and already finshed twice, but a digital backup copy is always useful). Regarding the other games, already have almost of them, except the Wing Commander series (I'm a very bad player with combat flying simulators, inclusive the space ones, then I very rarely will buy one of these types), the Crusader games (don't know if I will like, normally I prefer ARPGs, not pure shooter games in isometric action games) and Alpha Centaury (never played a Civilization-like game, looks too much micro-management)
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Erich_Zann: Four games missing, and I don't give a flying fuck about Medal of Honor, so that makes three.
Is Jade Empire worth it for six bucks, or is it already on the dating sim side of Bioware ?
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gandalf.nho: I liked, the combat is similar to KOTOR, but more action-oriented. The game have the possibility of romance, but is optional

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tinyE: Is there a playable demo for Jade Empire?
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gandalf.nho: No, but if you liked KOTOR, will like this one, is only a different setting
:D Thanks but I'm actually worried about the specs. Those screen shots look WAY too heavy for my poor OS. Incidentally KOTOR is one of my favorite games ever and the best plot twist in gaming IMO.
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Erich_Zann: Just remember to play without the expansion first.
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keeveek: Why? I jumped right into Alien Xfire and I didn't die.
Four of the seven new factions are potentially problematic for new players:

- The two alien factions are stronger than any human faction, and play by a different set of rules, including different victory conditions. For a first time player who already needs to learn the _regular_ rules, it's better to not immediately be confronted with strong enemies who follow different rules.

- The Pirates are without competition in the open seas, and will typically out-expand everyone else. They are usually easy to contain once you caught up in naval technology, but a new player doesn't know this. For a new player, the pirates look like a faction that has been given a grossly unfair advantage with which the player is unable to compete. Not fun.

- The Data Angels have a very specific playstyle based on spying and sabotage. These are gameplay elements that new players typically embrace at a rather late stage. The faction can be quite annoying to a new player who's just learning the basic concepts.

In short, Alien Crossfire adds factions which _do_ enhance the game (imho), but they might be too specific for a new player. The 7 factions of the base game are better in this regard. That said, one can of course start Alien Crossfire, manually select the factions in play, and ensure that none of the "problematic" factions is in play for their first two or three games.
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Psyringe: snip
Does the expansion ONLY add new classes? I don't think so...

I chose one of the standard classes, but wanted to have all the extras from the expansion (new units? technologies?)

Playing with the expansion means bigger variety, and you're not forced to try new factions...
Privateer 2 is missing. Looks like I have to wait for the next sale.

I understand that the latest EA games (Privateer 2, Wing Commander Academy and the Kyrandia adventures) are just too "new" to get into sale, but it looks not so good advertising all EA games but missing some. Would be better if you have waited until the mentioned games were old enough to come into sale, or you should have offered the sale before adding these games.
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Erich_Zann: Maybe it's just me, but I think that since most of the new factions are either specialized versions of the original ones, or "cheating" ones (I mean that they plain ignore some aspects of the game, like the seasettling pirates or the aliens do) it's better to play vanilla first.
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keeveek: I played the expansion but I chose the standard class to begin with. But I think it's better to start from a bigger game, but whatever others like.

Civ3 I started from complete as well. Civ 4 too.
I agree in principle (and did just that with Civ3 & 4, because by the time of Civ3's release I had stopped following video game news and got those years after their release) ; maybe with Alpha Centauri it's more a nostalgia factor since I bought it on release and played it to death back then, only buying Alien Crossfire years later.

I still maintain that some of the new factions severely break the rules, and can be confusing for a first time player.

Edit : I see Psyringe said it with better and with more details.
Post edited October 11, 2013 by Erich_Zann
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Erich_Zann: I agree in principle (and did just that with Civ3 & 4, because by the time of Civ3's release I had stopped following video game news and got those years after their release) ; I guess with Alpha Centauri it's more a nostalgia factor since I bought it one release and played it to death back then, only buying Alien Crossfire years later.
Maybe I don't have that problem because I have a habit of choosing the basic race / nation / faction in complete edition of the games when I first play them, and for my enemies as well. But I would feel that strange itch knowning that expansion would bring me some new units and technologies for basic class I am playing as well :P

Because that's true, if someone completely new to SMAC chose alien race as his first one... That could end badly. Or if he had to face alien race as his first enemy.
Post edited October 11, 2013 by keeveek
some great games on the list may get bioforge but not too sure on it.
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Psyringe: - The Pirates are without competition in the open seas, and will typically out-expand everyone else. They are usually easy to contain once you caught up in naval technology, but a new player doesn't know this. For a new player, the pirates look like a faction that has been given a grossly unfair advantage with which the player is unable to compete. Not fun.
I played the Pirates on relatively easy level, it was fun for me. But I also chose the map to contain more seas. I like having an advantage and play for fun, not for big strategy. The peacekeepers where also nice, having kind of everything and much diplomatic advantages.

Hm, don’t make me want to play again, there are many other games waiting for me. :)
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keeveek: Does the expansion ONLY add new classes? I don't think so...
I chose one of the standard classes, but wanted to have all the extras from the expansion (new units? technologies?)
No, but most of the new content is focused on them. New units mainly for the two alien factions, new technology to communicate with the aliens (mostly useless if they aren't in play), etc. I'm actually not sure how much of Alien Crossfire's new content is independent of the new factions.

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keeveek: Playing with the expansion means bigger variety, and you're not forced to try new factions...
Indeed, but the problems that I mentioned do not arise from a new player choosing one of the new factions himself, but rather when they are his opponents while he's still learning the game.

I know exactly where you're coming from. Like you, I also like to play the "full game" immediately, have all the options available to me, and learn the game while I'm going along. When I discover a new game, I usually have fun even _if_ I run into advanced factions or features early on. I even actually _like_ to be overwhelmed with features since I know from experience that I'll find my way around eventually. Not everyone is like this though, many players prefer a step-by-step approach.

That said, as mentioned previously, you can get the best of both worlds by playing with the expansion, but handpicking your opponents, and leaving the two alien factions, the pirates, and the data angels, out of the picture. That's probably the best option, but requires a bit of fiddling with the setup.
Post edited October 11, 2013 by Psyringe