I was going to argue but I really don't see the point. I'm not going to change anyone's mind and all I really do is hone my own biased opinion. I think I hated DRM even before I knew it existed. I just feel like people can't be serious when they support things like this, they must be shills for the industry that need to be beaten severely. Maybe that's not the way it is though.

I wanted to be dramatic and say that I'm never going to play games again, but I doubt that. I have a backlog of gog.com games that I can spend my free time playing for years. There's several of them that I like very much and could replay many times. Last year I bought a Super Nintendo and about 30 games, most of which I haven't played yet. I could play Killer Instinct for a long time. I want to try MAME too. That would keep me occupied for quite a while. The game industry's whining has caused me to become interested in free (freedom) gaming too. There are some that look pretty damn good to me. I could probably spend years on NetHack alone and of course I'd have to try the variants Slash 'Em, Falcon's Eye, and Vulture. I could spend a lot of time with Doom, Hexen, and Heretic and with the mods for them.

So if this rumor turns out true and consoles go this route, I won't participate anymore. I've got other options now. If I do decide to never play games again as a hobby, I've always wanted to get into chainsaw modding. I've wanted to make a chainsaw like Buzzsaw's. Hmmm...maybe I should forget games and do that.

The main thing that upsets me is that Sony sucks now. They brought us the walkman, a device that allowed people to take music with them and listen to it whenever they wanted. They brought us CDs which let us rip and burn mixes much easier. The route they've been on lately blows donkey dick.

I actually think that's exactly what they are. Have you ever noticed it's usually the devs doing it (the part of the industry that gamers idolize) and never the pubs (or almost never)?

You see they know most people who buy used games can't magically come up with more income to buy them all new, so they are trying to guilt them into diverting income from other stuff to pay for it. Often this will be other entertainment that suffers (going to the movies, buying music, etc.) but may also encourage people to forgo some activities with friends that cost money (hanging out at the coffee shop or sharing a pitcher at the sports bar while watching the game). I actually find it kind of selfish and it's telling that they're using community "heroes" to push the message. When I was a kid the heroes told us to not play with downed power lines and help others. Now I guess they tell us to forgo other things in favor of enriching the industry from which they directly benefit.

Looks like PC gaming is not so dead after all!

Last console i bought was a PS2, when the PS3 came out at 700 dollars (remember that?) i decided i could throw in a couple hundred dollars more and build a gaming rig.

Nowadays you can build something that will run almost anything at high settings for 600. Anyway, the lemmings will be making queues to buy their new console just like they always do.

it was never dead to begin with! only idiots perpetuate that BS. don't be one of them!

quality is worth something. there's a reason the xbox 360 was much cheaper at launch...
i bought a launch model PS3 as well, though a year after launch. the starter kit (came with 2 controllers and 2 games). was some of the best money i've ever spent.

and don't forget the built-in Blu Ray Disc player. these things cost $200-300 at launch alone. good ones still do.

for a decent gaming PC i'd need a hell of a lot more than $900... but it's not like that's stopping me from keeping my gaming PC up to date.

depends on your standards. but a decent graphics card (7970 level) alone will consume most of your budget. add to that a Core i7, or at least an upper-level i5, a decent upper-mid-range brand mainboard and 8GB of decent-quality RAM, and you've already blown your budget. and if you're building a new computer you'll also need a high-quality PSU with a decent power output, a large enough and well ventilated mid- or full tower, a DVD or BRD drive, one or more 1TB HDD and/or an SSD, possibly some aftermarkt CPU cooler and case ventilators. PC gaming done right is expensive, there's no way around that.

and i won't even mention peripherals like a gaming mouse, a decent keyboard, a high-quality LCD, a brand headset, joystick and/or racing wheel.

sure, everybody doing something you can't or don't want must be a lemming. get real. people enjoy stuff. people will buy stuff they'll enjoy. it's not a hard concept to grasp.

i love my PS3, and i'll certainly buy a PS4 if it ends up a decent system.

Are you seriously arguing that PC gaming is only good because the alternatives all suck worse? Wow, what a ringing endorsement of the PC platform you make! And yes, that's exactly what you just said.

Console and PC are not a fucking competition. Why are PC gamers so hurt over the fact that people buy and like consoles. It's like people hurt over the fact people buy iOS products or Macs. Do you get offended when people like a make of car that you don't prefer as well?

Yeah, I've never understood that either. I'm a PC guy myself, and the only console I've ever owned was the Intellivision. Long time ago. I've purchased a PS3, but that was for my son and it's at his place so I've never used it.

Another thing I can't stand with the "PC's are great/consoles are crap" crowd is so many of them have this thing about using the keyboard for action games because gamepads are for children. It's so stupid. I tried playing Fallout 3 about 5 times with th keyboard and just couldn't stand it. Then I bought an XBOX 360 controller for Windows, and played that game it has become one of my all time favorites.

And I went to Bethesda's website and urged them to include built in XBOX 360 controller support with ALL of their new releases, particularly Skyrim. And naturally I caught hell in the forums. Basically, they feel "macho" about being able to master the keyboard like that.

Great, I'm happy for you, but for the rest of us any games that involve WASD movement are just easier and more enjoyable with a gamepad. And I never asked that they include support for the controller and stop making the keyboard, I merely asked that they ADD support for the controller so that those that want to feel macho can use the keyboard and those that want to enjoy the game with a much easier learning curve can use a controller. This ALWAYS burns me up.

And one last example of folks getting offended and I can't figure out why is anytime I criticize a game or a company. Now I could understand them being offended if they were the ones that developed the game in question, or worked for the company in question, but otherwise, WTF??? Why they seem to take it personally and then resort to personal attacks back seems disturbingly strange to me.

Well psychologically I know "why" they do it (people feel good when they self associate with successful ventures, be it sports teams or video game companies, that's the short version anyway), but it's still irrational and annoying and I'm happy to point that fact out.

I'm with you with the gamepad thing, everything that's not a shooter or RTS and that has gamepad support, I use a gamepad for (and frankly, "real" gamers used to use joysticks whenever they could, it's no different). I don't know why they all want carpal tunnel so bad, I suppose they're young:)

I am the owner of a PS3, a Wii and a PSP Go! I love my consoles and I do like PSN digital games but Sony is not a corporation that deserves trust. I want to collect all Final Fantasy titles from the PSN but I'm afraid that sony may remove the titles just because they can, like they did with two other psp titles last week. The terms they enforce give them too much power and take too much away from the consumer, until there's better laws that protect the consumer better on digital purchases I won't spend too much on the PSN.

With that said, DRM on the console is really bad(Yet I tolerate it with my psp go and ps3 because it's not too much), always on DRM is worse and unbearable for me if that's the case, I won't be buying a new console next generation.

Seeing as it is only a rumor right now (for both Microsoft's next console and the PS4 to block used games) I'm going to wait to see any confirmation.

But if this is confirmed for the next Xbox I won't be getting that. And same for the PS4 (though I've never owned a PS3).

HAHA, damn. It never helps creating a steam wishlist during a post!

You think that's bad? I was doing a translation about the specifications for a industrial paint shop and I kept capitalising the word Steam subconsciously.

Valve doing funny things to our brains...

And MS has shown no qualms about shutting down Live for an old console and blocking access to content.

Still, I think you are exaggerating a bit about the content. Most DLC feels empty and most games right out of the box feel complete, ME2 included. Bethesda games and Dragon Age were kind of exceptions with real expansions, and coincidentally they are the ones with real collected editions.

Not really, the game is not complete without the DLC, not counting the item/costume packs the Mass Effect 2 DLC add much to the game, including the storyline between ME2 and ME3.

Also don't forget online pass(ME2 add Cerberus Network which is essentially a semi online pass).

I Guess that when next gen hits, publishers will re-release the "last-gen" games on "game of the year editions" with all the dlc included.

Off course that less popular games will get no such deal.

Some of the DLC was really good, especially Shadowbroker, but the game on the disc at launch feels complete. It's what reviewers reviewed, it's a complete experience. The DLC feels like DLC.