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Team: Sniper, Rifleman, Demolitions, and Heavy Weapon Expert. Objective: Preserve Freedom!

Command an elite squad from either the American Delta Force or British SAS in Conflict: Desert Storm on GOG.com for only $5.99.

[url=http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/conflict_desert_storm][/url]Conflict: Desert Storm is a first person/third person shooter. You are sent right in the middle of the Iraqi-Kuwait conflict in August of 1990. Your team of trained commandos consists of Bradley, rifleman and team leader; Conners, the heavy weapons expert; Foley, the team sniper; and Jones, the explosives and anti-tank specialist. As your soldiers gain experience, they also gain ranks and can become more skilled in the art of war. This is essential as the war conditions will change from bad to much, much worse.

Rescuing the Emir of Kuwait, engaging Iraqi forces in the Battle of Khafji, rescuing prisoners from Baghdad, fighting Iraqi Republican Guard, assassinating enemy general -- all in-game mission objectives are based on real events from the First Iraqi War with tactics and missions designed by a former SAS officer. The game offers advanced AI, super-realistic desert environment, real weapons, and combat vehicles (a player-controllable Humvee and a M2/M3 Bradley Fighting Vehicle)Whether you venture onto the battlefield alone or with a coordinated squad of AI-controlled Special Forces soldiers, you are in the heart of of the most authentic tactical combat experience of the Gulf War.

Do not negotiate. Do not surrender. Get Conflict: Desert Storm for only $5.99 on GOG.com!
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GOG.com: Team: Sniper, Rifleman, Demolitions, and Heavy Weapon Expert. Objective: Preserve Freedom!
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Adamantios: "Objective: Preserve Freedom"? Excuse me? Who writes this propaganda? Yeah, I know this is a game but the invasion of the Republic of Iraq (i.e. Ba'athist Iraq) was an act of American/Western imperialism and to describe it as "preserving freedom" is extremely offensive.
This is about Desert Storm, not the 2003 Iraq war. And Desert Storm was hardly an "Invasion" as coalition troops retreated rather swiftly back to Kuwait after an inital advanced.
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Adamantios: "Objective: Preserve Freedom"? Excuse me? Who writes this propaganda? Yeah, I know this is a game but the invasion of the Republic of Iraq (i.e. Ba'athist Iraq) was an act of American/Western imperialism and to describe it as "preserving freedom" is extremely offensive.
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Fifeldor: Ehm, in case you forgot, Iraq had invaded Kuwait back in 1990. They weren't the "good guys", no matter the angle you watch it from. Sure the West has a history of plunging into controversial conflicts in order to "preserve freedom", but that particular conflict didn't start because the US thought that Iraq had chemical weapons (like in '03).

Then again, to whom is it offensive? Are you Iraqi?
I didn't forget; I'm well aware of the events leading up the invasion. My point, however, was that the American-led invasion had absolutely nothing to do with "preserving freedom". Do you think the Western world cares about people's "freedom"? "Freedom" and "democracy" are just buzzwords thrown around to justify aggression. After all, the West is just as often on the side of "aggressors" as "victims". It all depends on who benefits geopolitically. That's how allies and enemies are determined, to greatly simplify things.

Also, from the Iraqi perspective, Kuwait was seen as an Iraqi area that had been unfairly cut off from the rest of the Iraqi nation. Thus, when Iraq went into Kuwait, the majority of Iraqis viewed it as an attempt to unite the country (and simultaneously remove the pro-Western puppet government in Kuwait).

And, no, I am not Iraqi. (I do speak some Arabic, though.) I'm Hellenic. The reason I said it's offensive is because my country has also been a victim of Western imperialism and colonialism and, thus, I oppose these things wherever in the world they take place.
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SimonG: This is about Desert Storm, not the 2003 Iraq war. And Desert Storm was hardly an "Invasion" as coalition troops retreated rather swiftly back to Kuwait after an inital advanced.
I'm aware of that. See my response above to Fifeldor.

Also, something I did not notice before but which another poster drew my attention to: the statement in the description that reads, "Do not negotiate. Do not surrender".

Combined with the other statement about "preserving freedom", I don't think it's too hard for someone to understand my perspective.
Post edited February 02, 2012 by Adamantios
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Adamantios: dribbledribbledribble
I like video games.
Pairneis ta panta poly sovara.

It's just a game.
It's not my kind of game but I don't get all the anger, I say give peace a chance!
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Fifeldor: Pairneis ta panta poly sovara.

It's just a game.
Είσαι Έλληνας;

In my first post I explicitly said "I know this is a game [...]". My problem was simply with the description supporting Western propaganda and so I made a post to voice my concerns.

However, I disagree that I'm being too serious. Modern entertainment plays a major role in contemporary propaganda. When, in every game or film, a person sees a specific people or nation depicted as "lazy", "terrorist", "evil", etc. many people (especially those who are ignorant and unintelligent) are influenced by such opinions. That said, there are far worse games in existence (which extoll capitalist exploitation, aggression, imperialism, and colonialism against real-life nations).
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Adamantios: crapallcrap
Video games are very fun. GOG.com is a website dedicated to them. I think video games are great.
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GOG.com: Team: Sniper, Rifleman, Demolitions, and Heavy Weapon Expert. Objective: Preserve Freedom!
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Adamantios: "Objective: Preserve Freedom"? Excuse me? Who writes this propaganda? Yeah, I know this is a game but the invasion of the Republic of Iraq (i.e. Ba'athist Iraq) was an act of American/Western imperialism and to describe it as "preserving freedom" is extremely offensive.
On the other hand I agree with you here :-) I would love some action games that had some more nuanced and better stories than the usual propaganda. There are perhaps some already, just that I don't know about them.
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Adamantios: That said, there are far worse games in existence (which extoll capitalist exploitation, aggression, imperialism, and colonialism against real-life nations).
The Civilization series! Mmm I love those games.
Post edited February 02, 2012 by Sargon
Just so you know, while we can take a humorous approach to political figures both in and out of the game world, the characters and situations presented in games involving politics can sometimes reveal the subtle, and not so subtle, influence of real world politicians and their actions on developers and consumers alike. From the days when Grand Theft Auto was the Bad Guy on the field of why children behave violently, to the Supreme Court ruling in June of 2011 that video games were subject to First Amendment protection, to Australia's decision to introduce an adults-only rating to its video game market, gamers cannot escape the influence of politics in our hobby of choice.
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Adamantios: "Objective: Preserve Freedom"? Excuse me? Who writes this propaganda? Yeah, I know this is a game but the invasion of the Republic of Iraq (i.e. Ba'athist Iraq) was an act of American/Western imperialism and to describe it as "preserving freedom" is extremely offensive.
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SimonG: This is about Desert Storm, not the 2003 Iraq war. And Desert Storm was hardly an "Invasion" as coalition troops retreated rather swiftly back to Kuwait after an inital advanced.
True, but wouldn't "preserving oil-supplies" have been a more honest name for the operation :-P
Post edited February 02, 2012 by Sargon
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Adamantios: ...
Δυστυχώς ναι. Πιστεύεις και στους Εψιλον;
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Sargon: True, but wouldn't "preserving oil-supplies" have been a more honest name for the operation :-P
Probably, but I'm using those supplies right now, so stop your nagging!

(Not every nation has conveniently placed off-shore oil) ;-P
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Adamantios: I didn't forget; I'm well aware of the events leading up the invasion. My point, however, was that the American-led invasion had absolutely nothing to do with "preserving freedom". Do you think the Western world cares about people's "freedom"? "Freedom" and "democracy" are just buzzwords thrown around to justify aggression. After all, the West is just as often on the side of "aggressors" as "victims". It all depends on who benefits geopolitically. That's how allies and enemies are determined, to greatly simplify things.
Hold on there. You are taking it too far. While I think that self-interest (of the nation or alliance) has been the most important factor dictating foreign policy of Western nations after WW2, there is also genuine benevolence involved. Freedom and democracy aren't just empty words. While some people like Reagan, Nixon and Bush JR have done theirs to drag these words into the realm of parody, you should not let them guide you into darkness. If everyone expects just self-interest and realpolitik, that is precisely what we will get.

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Adamantios: And, no, I am not Iraqi. (I do speak some Arabic, though.) I'm Hellenic. The reason I said it's offensive is because my country has also been a victim of Western imperialism and colonialism and, thus, I oppose these things wherever in the world they take place.
An interesting point. While I would include Greece as a part of "The West", do you Greeks usually look upon yourself as a separate entity? My knowledge of modern Greek history is a little rusty or non-existent but my guess is when you are mentioning Western imperialism against Greece you are referring to the support that the totalitarian regime in Greece got from the West since it was an anti-communist dictatorship and not a pro? The same sad story as with the US and South\Middle-America.

Unless you are referring to Roman Imperialism against Greece :-) ? I guess that could also be seen as Western imperialism.

What do think about Hellenic and Roman imperialism? While I couldn't have supported their military conquests, there came a lot of good things out of those as well. The Monty Python sketch "What have the Romans ever done for us?" comes to mind:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc7HmhrgTuQ
I always enjoyed this game back in the day on the old XBOX. I don't understand the negative reaction. Yeah it's not the greatest game of all time but I sank a lot of hours into it.
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Sargon: True, but wouldn't "preserving oil-supplies" have been a more honest name for the operation :-P
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SimonG: Probably, but I'm using those supplies right now, so stop your nagging!

(Not every nation has conveniently placed off-shore oil) ;-P
Good point :-P
It is easy to write down morals on tablets and throw them down at people when you are conveniently seated at the top of the mountain.

On the other hand ..I think one of the first things we learn about social interactions is that it is not OK to take the other kid's toy, just because he has something you don't have. Too bad that this most basic element of civility does not apply to international relations :-I