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Considering starting a Steam account to vote against, just because anything said against this game makes you lot so angry. :)
Well, i am just not interested in this one, so ill not buy....and magically problem solved :)
Post edited December 15, 2014 by iippo
Has it been deleted or it's a problem on my end? I can't find it. Even the link in the devs site it is showing "unknown item".

Conspiracy!
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AndyBuzz: Has it been deleted or it's a problem on my end? I can't find it. Even the link in the devs site it is showing "unknown item".

Conspiracy!
Hah, weird. I was watching the trailer just now, saw your post and reloaded, and it is indeed down.
It's banned from Steam, so probably they will start heading to GOG.
Damn, I quite like the look of this game. Nothing like murdering innocent families in a video game.
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darthspudius: Damn, I quite like the look of this game. Nothing like murdering innocent families in a video game.
No one is innocent.
I'm surprised, and yet not. Honestly it's a game i never would have touched, as the last thing i need is to venture into any dark part of my mind. There's quite a bit of surprise that Steam will pull this game but leave something like postal up, or other games that are wildly even more violent (dark souls?). But it's one thing when the game is based on over the top satire with one or two things that might come up but don't last, and then another when it's the only mission of the game to be effectively a terrorist and mass murderer.

I am curious to see where Hatred will be in 5 years (assuming it ever releases), and it could be an interesting social experiment. I don't know...

But that's my 2 cents.
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Licurg: Does nobody believe in proper fucking grammar anymore ???
It's "properly fucking grammar", and they did! So stop complaining.
DOWN WITH THIS SORT OF THING!1!1!111

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT9xuXQjxMM

:)
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rtcvb32: I'm surprised, and yet not. Honestly it's a game i never would have touched, as the last thing i need is to venture into any dark part of my mind. There's quite a bit of surprise that Steam will pull this game but leave something like postal up, or other games that are wildly even more violent (dark souls?). But it's one thing when the game is based on over the top satire with one or two things that might come up but don't last, and then another when it's the only mission of the game to be effectively a terrorist and mass murderer.

I am curious to see where Hatred will be in 5 years (assuming it ever releases), and it could be an interesting social experiment. I don't know...

But that's my 2 cents.
well, it is just a game... but I don't understand this "just a game" defense - it's like someone shooting a mockumentary about a man raping, torturing and killing a woman. yes, it's just a movie... but why in f*cks name would anyone want to make or watch something like that?

it's of course the controversy that the makers wanted to introduce, but I just don't understand how SO MANY PEOPLE are saying how much they're looking forward to playing this...
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Kunovski: it's like someone shooting a mockumentary about a man raping, torturing and killing a woman. yes, it's just a movie... but why in f*cks name would anyone want to make or watch something like that?
Because it can be fun. The thing is, it's impossible to gauge whether a game/movie of that type is just violence for violence's own sake, or it actually has deeper layers, without actually playing/watching the damned thing.
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Kunovski: it's like someone shooting a mockumentary about a man raping, torturing and killing a woman. yes, it's just a movie... but why in f*cks name would anyone want to make or watch something like that?
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Wishbone: Because it can be fun. The thing is, it's impossible to gauge whether a game/movie of that type is just violence for violence's own sake, or it actually has deeper layers, without actually playing/watching the damned thing.
yeah, I get how a movie with a charismatic, silent and professional man goes on his "chores" can be great :) meaningless violence has been here for so long and it can be fun... I mean, Free Fall is a great movie too and it's about a maniac ;)

I don't know, maybe this game triggers some protective switches, seeing those helpless people crying for mercy and being shot in the head, that just made me sick :/ yes, I know, it's just a game, but at the same time, with what goes around in the real world, I can't stop imagining that there are really people out there who would do this, just to pump some adrenaline into their veins or show the world they had enough... creepy :(
So, when will they remove the GTA series as some Australian distributors previously did?

Or is it some heavy money involved here instead of ethics?
Post edited December 16, 2014 by Huinehtar
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Kunovski: but I don't understand this "just a game" defense - it's like someone shooting a mockumentary about a man raping, torturing and killing a woman. yes, it's just a movie... but why in f*cks name would anyone want to make or watch something like that?
Ditto...

Makes me wonder... What would happen if someone made a game where at the beginning it clearly states it's a game, then has a badly done N64 model begging for her life with a decent MP3 file and pleading you not to kill them, and you kill them because hey it's just a game...

But the simulation required you to be online to play at the time, and if you do happen to kill the virtual character, somewhere in the world a real woman strapped to a chair with a gun pointed at her only goes off if someone killed the virtual woman...

Later a photo is released of her being dead and even the MP3 voice of her pleading for her life that was released in the game. Does that person feel guilty for killing her even though it was 'just a game', and everything about it said it was a game? Not feel guilty because you killed a virtual simulation and should have no relevance to her coincidental death? Feel guilty for killing the virtual simulation, then devastated for finding out it extended to the real world?

It wouldn't be hard to do this IRL either...

Makes me wonder if someone is going to try this except with rats in a cage across the room rigged with a spike trap; While in a game you have to clear a room of rats, the first SHING/THUD you hear from an empty cage lets you know it's more than a game, do you then kill the other rats even though they are usually known as pests?

Wow... Now i'm scaring myself... But yeah, Just a game mentality or excuse doesn't quite mesh with me. I find it very hard to do something i wouldn't do for real unless its distanced from the actual mechanics. Reminds me a little of watching TotalBiscuit playing This War Of Mine and he felt such remorse after he killed a armed woman while thinking she was a psychopath and then found out she was just guarding her family when her sister came down and started crying over her body...
Post edited December 16, 2014 by rtcvb32