Had GOG made a statement about Linko90 harrassment? No.
Had GOG demanded apologies from ResetEra? No.
These are facts. And those fact mean that GOG haven't done anything to protect their employee or to prevent similar situations in the future.

This is were you mistaken. Even here, on this very GOG forum some folks were not aware about Linko90 until some youtuber made a video about him.


The thing is, most people have heard about employees being fired or quit after some controversy. But very few are actually know the scale of those fireings. Exactly because many mob victims are too afraid or made to strike some deal with the companies they were forced to leave. And people around think it's "just stirring a storm in a glass of water".

That the one who tries to sit on the fence gets stones from both sides. Also, I'm suggesting to focus blame on ResetEra and not on GOG. So if anyone who will think that main problem is GOG attitude will do that by their own merit.

Lay it at rest is exactly what will allow SJWs to use similar tactics in the future, since they know that no reprecussions will follow.

That's difficult, unless they're actually looking for information after noticing a drop in customer retention and do something like send surveys out to find out why, they probably won't ever know. A fairly standard assumption in a lot of businesses is that for every one person who complains or compliments you, there are probably 10 other people who feel the same way but haven't said anything. Without actual data through surveys and the like though, they really can't know.

Because I don't know the situation, but also because gog has been making some questionable actions the last few months to the point where I'm unsure if they're actually intending to align themselves with the individuals who want to destroy gaming as an entertainment and try to push politics in them, I intend to stop buying anything and just observe for awhile. Gog is a hard one to read. Best way is to just stop buying anything from them until you're sure.

In a time where even big companies like paypal are boycotting other companies, I consider it even more important that I don't support companies that engage in that sort of censorship, or that cater to the mobs trying to hurt people that they disagree with, even if only by doxxing them or getting them fired. Many of those companies being attacked are doing nothing wrong, and need support.

The whole thing is pretty dumb, because that hashtag was based on a misconception. The issue at hand wasn't whether a man can transition to a woman, or whether a woman can transition to a man, all the president was saying is that you're either a man or a woman, you can't have your gender legally be 'fluffy pink unicorn' or 'attack helicopter' or whatever other nonsense. You'd have a hard time convincing any biologist or doctor that any of those fictional genders exist. There wasn't anything in there that threatened trans rights.

That said, gog might be in a tricky position. I expect almost all games journalists, given their reprehensible behaviour in the past, probably tried to put extra pressure on them, threatening to pull any and all advertising. It's quite possible the problem is them, and not gog itself. Even if that is true however, personally I would never sacrifice my staff or customers to make a third party happy, even if I was in business with them. That's a good way to lose all your good staff and customers. On the other hand, using a trending hashtag without understanding the context behind it was a mistake; that would certainly call for some coaching. The other 'mistakes' that gog made earlier weren't actually mistakes though, those were people getting upset at nothing.

That's a bold statement that would be tricky to prove. Do you have a source for that?

Honestly, I'm surprised people are still going on about this.

No the way to fix those problems is open and reasonable discourse, using rational conversation to debate ideas, which is why they're so set on censorship everywhere. Doing nothing makes things worse.

That's why the only people who still desperately wish to reinstate a social media manager who sucked major balls at his main job and actively damaged his employer's reputation with extremist propaganda no less than three times are an utter conspiracy nutjob locked away by his family, a 'first world problems' lolcow hunter on the desperate search for prey, a literally braindead wannabe member of Putin's troll army, some new guy who feels his games are 'politicized' from the left because he doesn't understand how glorifying the status quo literally acts as conservative propaganda, a painfully contained tourette patient asking for civility of debate, a flailing moral revisionist who thinks people wore tinfoil hats against drugs administered via aerosol, orally and intravenously, and, of course, a despicable transphobe who's put in no uncertain terms that he'd gladly vote for nazis in the next election if only they cut back on those pesky trans rights, which he finds so damn irksome that his supposed social ideals are well worth pissing on, and he still thinks his discourse is somehow "reasonable" or even "rational". But everyone is seeing the slobber here.

No, I said reasonable discourse. I would not vote for nazis; under the normal definition of what a nazi is; I wouldn't accept the tyranny of fascism OR communism. People that support nations over globalism isn't the definition of a nazi. I don't want anyone's rights to be infringed on. I would even support trans people being given free health care support to help them handle things. But noone is entitled to their own reality, and especially not to tell other people what they should say.

This is the problem, people don't take the time to understand the points being talked about and try to dehumanize the other side instead of engaging the points on their own merits. That's not good for anybody.

The problem is that right now you are answering a person who totally believes that those who don't support his "social justice" views are litearlly nazis.

Possibly, but if nothing else it's of benefit to anyone else reading such an exchange to see what each side of an argument is bringing to the table. It might not change his mind if he's a zealot, but it might change others minds. Without that ability to discuss ideas, it's more likely that third party observers would believe that what he's saying is true, instead of biased.

+ 1001! This is something we cannot allow to "lay rest" and just continue on like a sit-com run by immature children.

And this is one of the core problems in our society when others can utterly ruin someone else based on here-say and rumours, and act if there's no consequences, only to continue on to the next victim. Same with a child; unless the child is govern by some standards they get uncivilized pretty fast. I know - I have worked with children!

This whole puerile and a simplistic notion that this is a battle between left vs right is something we can thank the USA for.... and yet again Europe has adopted this simplistic view.

I'm beginning more and more to think that this famous psychologist is spot on: this is a perverse need to feel empowered, to belong, to have a purpose, and lash out in frustration to anyone that disagrees with them, and it becomes fascism in reality when we allow them to change our social order and laws.

Like a child or a well-meaning teenager - they shall be heard of course, but not be allow to rule over others.

As "some guy new" I'd like to address this comment: "some new guy who feels his games are 'politicized' from the left because he doesn't understand how glorifying the status quo literally acts as conservative propaganda," so to be clear, I do understand the situation. It is that you and I hold different opinions, in this case different interpretations of reality. My interpretation seems to be supported by most proven methods of research in the social sciences (Observational, sampling, process tracing, case study, statistical analysis, etc.) and 80% of the population and your theoretical marxist critique seems to be supported by about 7-8% in the west. The self-righteous manner in which you make your points echos of the young Red Guard during China's cultural revolution. You would do well to note that history has proven them to be wrong as well.

It's a shame that people don't get this upset about our impending extinction. ;p

Morning over here, Chandra. What time is it in your neighborhood?

Actually, the abuse of power has far more to do with the nature of power than with this or that ideology.

Somehow i missed this before, but anyway, keep reading back, you'll find it. You specifically said you wanted me reading a bunch of threads to see if i could find something, myself, because you didn't trust me to tell me what you thought outright.

Yeah, i used to think that, too, but i've noticed most people who aren't already decided tend to get bored reading this sort of thing.

Definitely there was a conspiracy to keep the experiments under wraps. We can debate little points in the information all day, but the point was that people were experimented on in very bad ways, without consent, and the agencies behind this were not beholden to the public. The people with the tinfoil hats assumed the experiments were conducted through microwaves and radiowaves from the electromagnetic spectrum, which they were wrong about (and if they were right, the hats would've actually been smart, but their information was bad, so they were wrong and looked ridiculous).