toxicTom: Marschmusik! [editor's note: Took out the link because it contained advertising for hate preaching doomsayers]
Finally, a cause I can get behind.
devoras: Another good example of despair speech is claiming that gender is a social construct. They can't understand what it's like to identify with reality and the daily struggles innocent people must endure being told that our sex isn't real by leftists, and how despair speech so deeply hurts us. I don't think we should allow despair on our college campuses, and we should have 'secure places' where only rational and critical thinking is allowed to protect students from those trying to spread despair. Companies that encourage the spread of despair speech should be called out for it.
I see you think that having to use a different pronoun for a person means
the destruction of civilisation. You confuse sex and gender, purposefully, with sole intent to provoke a violent response. I'm seeing many walls of text from you that are practically identical and point at a thoroughly radicalized identity. Sure, you mostly retain a "civil tone", but still you call in no uncertain terms for extremely wide ranging censorship and the suppression of scientific as well as humanist ideas on college campus.
It's textbook incitement to hatred, and whenever you're confronted with an actually appropriate tone in a debate in which you consistently argue to deprive people of basic rights, you deplore the loss of civility. But that is what you brought on yourself.
Suppression of free speech on college campuses, man,
so that the oh so perverse and harmful idea that trans people are real people doesn't spread and muddle with the heads of your poor youth. That's your cup of tea. It would be entirely "reasonable" to assume that your idea of Napola colleges, where all that communist nonsense is banned, is meeting with some resistance of the vehement kind.
devoras: We could easily go back to normal civility like we had 20 years ago and be just fine.
You'd have to shut up though, which I don't see happening. The ideology that you seem to hate so much, it's been there in the late 80s already. Back when Republicans in the US weren't all complete xenophobes, didn't boo at a gay soldier during primaries and shit.
SirPrimalform: Actually, people did and he banned them. I think it's mostly because of that.
I won't belittle his work on these forums. He had a knack for knowing when to strike, and I especially laud that eventually he removed one reactionary extremist after another while still leaving them guessing whether he secretly was on their side, especially after that horrible gamergate tweet (and apparently his subsequent playing of the victim card in Discord chat). I still think that his tweets (both that we can clearly tie to him without small leaps of logic at least) were an expression of his political leanings, which made his success in cleaning up this forum all the more impressive, as he was continuously throwing his brothers in arms out.
The tides have changed all too quickly here though. People have tested the limits of the new rule, and saw there were none to speak of - at least none that would be a hindrance to their causes. Yet the new limit testing was of course disrespectful already, especially after honeying up in the first round. And, yes, I think that was in no small part due to the gender constellation.
They relentlessly tortured Fables after she dared to introduce clear cut forum rules. Then they of course accepted the "good people on both sides" guy, also because evidently he'd ignore right-wing extremism. For him to be ostracised, the guy had to literally pour gallons of condescension over the community during the great privacy schism, after which he was torn to shreds from all sides, regardless how much I pleaded. And then Linko, who DID crack down on the My Attorney Got Arrested creeps, had to literally oust himself with a vengeance during his sixth month on the job ... well. There's some prejudice here that isn't quite so easily explained away, I hope we can agree on that.
This thread wouldn't have been made under Linko, and Linko would have closed it long ago.