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I paid for CS source, them messed up the bundle info.
i paid.
i played
they deleted and said nothing.

and according to them never happened
When it happens to you it sets a tone for the rest of your life.
Post edited May 18, 2025 by LegionKIND
As you don't want to understand, i will leave you with your wonderful world where everything is good
At least on GOG you can still download all the games if you wish and offline-install. There is no way to remove those files from your computer. I think you can still do the installing even without Galaxy still..?
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dhonavin: You're delusional if you think Rockstar is doing this for any other reason than greed. They have consistently proven since the release of GTA 5 what they care about most.
Wow, I had no idea being accountable to the board / shareholders at the end of the day wasn't the same as doing it for greed. You truly learn something new every day.

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Shocker93: They can only make live service games unavailable. They don't remove anything that isn't live service. I have games that are both from the store, and were activated via keys, and all of them are there and playable. They don't remove your games. Period.
As we keep telling you, there's no guarantee you'll get to keep your games when Steam or your internet goes down for an extended period of time. If Steam ever goes down, what'll happen then?

You're more than welcome to shop from Steam, but please don't try to tell us that we own our own games on Steam when the majority of the games there aren't DRM-free.
Post edited May 19, 2025 by UnashamedWeeb
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Mugiwarah: Have you read the Steam Subscriber Agreement or are you trully believe that Vavle or any Store can't remove your game?
They call "your" games a subscription and it's clearly written that they can remove it from your account. They probably haven't remove a lot of games beside keys from grey market but it doesn't mean they can't, they have the right to do it and you gave them the authorization to do it by accepting the TOS.
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Shocker93: They can only make live service games unavailable. They don't remove anything that isn't live service. I have games that are both from the store, and were activated via keys, and all of them are there and playable. They don't remove your games. Period.
It’s true that when a game is delisted from the store, it’s usually not removed from players' libraries. However, you’re conflating two different things here: delisting a game is not the same as removing it.

There have been cases where games were removed from users’ accounts, most often with online multiplayer titles where servers were shut down and the publisher requested removal. But legally, this doesn’t just apply to online games. If a license holder runs into legal trouble, for example, losing the rights to distribute a certain IP, or it turns out they never had that right to start with, then the license may be revoked, and as a result, the game can be pulled from users’ accounts as well.

Additionally, games can be removed if the key used to activate them turns out to be illegal, whether it’s a fake, part of a scam, or linked to credit card fraud. (One common method of laundering stolen credit cards is to quickly buy game keys and then resell them on grey market sites.)

Bottom line: while it’s uncommon, Steam does have both the legal and technical ability to remove games from your library.
Post edited May 19, 2025 by amok
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Shocker93: They can only make live service games unavailable. They don't remove anything that isn't live service. I have games that are both from the store, and were activated via keys, and all of them are there and playable. They don't remove your games. Period.
The key point is that Steam can take your games away from you. They have clauses built into the user agreement that cover their asses for that - making it clear that what you 'own' is a temporary license to play the games, which can be taken away any time they feel like it. Steam games require the Steam client to install and run. They have complete control over your games and what you can do with them. There is no legal obligation on them to keep servers running in perpetuity.

If someone else is able to take your games away from you at the flick of a switch, then you never really owned them in the first place. It is just an illusion.

The fact that they haven't done so yet doesn't change anything.
Post edited May 19, 2025 by Time4Tea
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Time4Tea: [...]
If someone else is able to take your games away from you, then you never really owned them in the first place. It is just an illusion.
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Keep in mind that the same issues I mentioned above also apply to DRM-free games - you still have a license, and that license can be revoked. For example, if there are legal issues with the IP, or if it turns out the key was sold to you illegally (such as in cases of credit card fraud), and so on - the license can be revoked just the same.

The difference between DRM and DRM-free is in the enforcement: with DRM, the software can be forcibly removed or locked remotely. With DRM-free, you're trusted to remove the software yourself if the license is no longer valid. Continuing to use it after that point is, legally speaking, the same as piracy.

DRM-free is based on trust, and that trust should go both ways.
Post edited May 19, 2025 by amok
I'm surprised this thread continues to be alive for a game we have nothing to do with.
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PookaMustard: I'm surprised this thread continues to be alive for a game we have nothing to do with.
Once upon a time, the GOG forums were a good place, a real community where people came together to talk about their shared hobby: games and gaming. Sadly, the forums aren’t quite the same anymore. I was reminded of this when I stumbled across a thread from 13 years ago, and I was struck by how much the tone has changed from back then.

So, thank you for the policing and reminder of why so many people from back then have left.
Post edited May 19, 2025 by amok
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Shocker93: Some people are obsessed with owning games, but I bet that a lot of them spend far more time owning them, instead of actually playing them and making their investment worth.
You've been schooled in another thread about this very thing.

Be a shame if someone sold you a house at a hefty markup, only it turns out you are merely "subscribed" to that house and should you break the TOS for any reason (or if the actual owner of the house wants to get you into trouble), you get kicked out. Being "obsessed" with owning your stuff is a bad thing after all, right?

Or will you say you "made your investment's worth" for staying 5, 10 or 20 years in that house?

What a fucked up worldview.
Edit: nevermind, not worth having yet another DRM argument.
Post edited May 19, 2025 by Breja
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dhonavin: You're delusional if you think Rockstar is doing this for any other reason than greed. They have consistently proven since the release of GTA 5 what they care about most.
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UnashamedWeeb: Wow, I had no idea being accountable to the board / shareholders at the end of the day wasn't the same as doing it for greed. You truly learn something new every day.

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Shocker93: They can only make live service games unavailable. They don't remove anything that isn't live service. I have games that are both from the store, and were activated via keys, and all of them are there and playable. They don't remove your games. Period.
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UnashamedWeeb: As we keep telling you, there's no guarantee you'll get to keep your games when Steam or your internet goes down for an extended period of time. If Steam ever goes down, what'll happen then?

You're more than welcome to shop from Steam, but please don't try to tell us that we own our own games on Steam when the majority of the games there aren't DRM-free.
You can play single player without an internet. When will Steam go down? I will probably own the GTA trilogy for the rest of my life, while you are waiting for your DRM free versions. I finished games multiple times years ago, that you are still waiting for. None of my games ever got taken away.