A question, if you don’t mind: about the posts with code that you quoted, did you manage to break the code yet? Even after correcting one of the wrong quotes, there is still another post incorrectly quoted, which leads to thinking that you still might not have broken the code of at least two messages.

If you did, would you share the findings with the rest of the crew? Something useful might be in there (meaning SPF’s) :3

Also, thanks for making clear that you are an inveterate mafia veteran.

Ok, as it's getting late in the day... I'd be willing to lynch Genocide unless they contribute more (than just stating their page one vote was serious without any reasoning), any of zazak, pooka or trent. I think the slightly strange love-hate-triangle going on there might give us some info with a flip from one of them.

Nothing to add other than:

+1

Okay, Carradice has backed his tone down. I, like Pooka, was thinking he was far more aggressive than normal, and maybe this was because he has something to hide (drawing attention to tone to distract from what was said), maybe IRL strain, maybe not tiptoeing because of a PR.

Was willing to vote him pre-retraction and group-throwing-hug. Maybe still am, maybe not.

I don't see anything really suspicious about GR, and i like what I am seeing this game from SirP. Unlike last game. Also, I like his mustache.

Willing to vote in no particular order: Pooka, Gen (d2), Carradice (maybe), Joe (because of his AtE during semi-not-RVS (#89), his joking tone easily hides scum), Zazak (d2),

not willing to vote gogtrial, zfr (I want to see if he lives to d2, willing to lunch d2), microfish.

kinda-but-not-really willing to lunch everyone else to avoid lack of lunch.

unvote gamerager
i like what i've seen of pooka, but we need something, so in order to put pressure, and try and get something done in our last 24 hours
voteroll: pooka/joe/pooka/joe/pooka/joe
vote...Joe
gut feeling as much as anything; i hope he is town.

Ditto for same reason, and together with my current vote zazak and Pooka those are my preferred lynches today.

Next on the list is gogtrial and trent.

Neutral on Joe, GameRager. Would vote to avoid a no-lynch, but I'd rather it doesn't come to that.

Would rather not vote SPF, Micro, Carradice, Cadaver.

Thoughts on every player...

ZFR's stupid gambit would get him policy lynched on most forums, but he's probably not scum. Possibly third party.

@Lift should replace Genocide because he's clearly not interested in what's going on. If we're going to policy lynch anyone, it should be GameRager. He posts a lot , but contributes almost nothing of substance.

JoeSapphire hasn't participated in awhile... Where are you Joe?

I'll credit Trent for keeping everyone focused, but I'm still suspicious of him.

Glad to know Cadaver has experience playing Mafia. I thought he might end up being dead weight.

Not strong opinions on GOGtrial or Microfish. I hope to get better reads on day two.

Pooka and SPF are both strong town reads.

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Last but not least, Carradice. He has been caught openly contradicting himself...

This alone is more than enough justification to lynch Carradice, but there are other reasons to suspect him as well. Like Pooka observed, Carradice's tone is overly aggressive and unusual in this game, and he has also been sitting on the fence not voting anyone (mafia like to avoid joining bandwagons early).

Unvote Trent
Vote Carradice

bump

For some reason Pooka is displayed in the quote, but it was actually Carradice that said it on post #187.

It's also bizzare how much Carradice's tone shifted after being called out by Pooka. Definite scum tell.

Well, I thought it suspicious that zazak asked me to claim, but maybe he on the other hand genuinely took my post seriously. Too seriously.

Still willing to vote.

It's because you put post 179 in the quote tag, we've all been there.

I don't exactly see the two posts as contradiction though. Between those two posts Genocide came back and made several posts, although there wasn't much substance to them to be fair.

My point is that the bit you bolded in the first quote is conditional. By the time of the second quoted post, that condition had been met.

There was zero substance to his later posts. He probably only came back because Lift had warned him.

I also don't believe Carradice genuinely forgot that Genocide is a new player, because he was giving him pointers in the sign-up thread.

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/come_play_with_us_signup_thread_for_a_social_deduction_forum_game_setting_the_shining/post64

Is it possible that he has a terrible memory? Maybe, but he could also be acting deceptively.

Regarding the other evidence I listed.

- What do you think of Carradice's major shift in tone after being called out by Pooka?

- Do you agree that it looks like Carradice is fence sitting? Despite recent encouragement from Trent, he still hasn't placed a vote on anyone since RVS.

No. I don't force-replace anyone for lack of content. Judging content and whether that is sufficient or not is up to the players and can be dealt with within the game. (for example by talking about it or by lynching)

There are only two situations in which I replace a player:
1. If they ask for it.
2. If they stop posting for an extended period of time and don't react to a prod.

Not even a three strikes rule?

After thinking about it while working, I think Carradice should go. Played with an aggressive tone and when called out, started mentioning names like Ghandi and MLK. Don't get me wrong. I think we could do with more messages of peace and an emphasis on human lives rather than net profits.

But this is still a game of mafia. And I don't like how he went about it. I still think he's hiding something.

Vote Carradice

Ah, I've just been back to re-read and I see what you're talking about. I was misremembering Pooka calling out Carr as what gogtrial said about tone problems possibly due to language barrier issues.