SirPrimalform quoted the dream from N1 when Joe was killed. That's my understanding at least.

I did remember and I was pretty certain you meant D1 dream. But your sentence about quoting a dream you didn't have was too funny to pass.

Can you give me some specific quotes when you find time?

Wat.

Let me guess, the day started a whole hour ago and therefore Pooka is lurking?

I kid. I guess this is a continuation from yesterday, but can you flesh out your current thinking a bit?

I figured as much, it's "in character" for you. :P

I asked Lithrasil if it's allowed to quote dreams from PMs from him, if we ask you if we want to share ours, as the only exception. Lith told me that it's the only exception: we may quote the dreams.

I had no dreams from Night 1 and Night 2.

Ah, that's interesting. My hunch is that the reason it's allowed is because it's complete fluff, but feel free to analyse it.

Yes I can, but I'd prefer to wait until everyone has a chance to post first.

It's a complete fluff I'm afraid: neutral haunters haunt players in dreams (not lethal), evil haunters (scum/mafia) haunts others together for a kill.
If alive players could at least tell about their dreams on N1-N2 it might, or might not, help us a bit.

That's why I'm asking @ALL: please share your dreams from PM and not just "oh yeah, I had a dream".

Thank you.

This one:

Feels like you setting up the ground for being able to imply toMorrow: "See? I was the only one who did not buy that crap. Town gogtrial was lynched, but now we have the chance to lynch the scum behind it."

So my understanding of the dream that SPF got is that he got it because of gogtrial visiting him (see this post). Effectively making the visitor slash jesters "loud" but not without telling you who they are. Can't say I don't like the dream though.

Having known that gogtrial and Carradice were essentially "jesters" in a modified sense, (and having first-hand experience of the damage jesters could do), I'm not sure how to feel about zazak's playstyle. To me, it feels like it's drawing votes. For example, see how he keeps bringing up the "he went offline/online" thing repeatedly despite various players telling him it's actually an unreliable indicator of activity, especially within the context of this Mafia game. Oh, and he begins this day by just straight up voting me without any explanation or any additional stuff he found during the night.

What I'm trying to say is, I feel like he's just manufacturing the feeling of being scummy to get lynched, and join the ranks of gogtrial and Carradice. Maybe even his request to be subbed at EOD2 was made to play into that.

Another thing that worries me about this is that if we assume a standard 3-team mafia (rather than 2-team like gogtrial theorized), we're already at MyLo with 3 mafiosos versus 5 everyone else. All in all, this means no longer having zazak as my main focus. Would rather not vote him at all today.

Good point about Zazak being another "neutral" (I don't know the proper word and I don't like the word "jester" at all) . However don't you think that if Zazak's win condition is to have him lynched, he might have acted more scummier?

Also, any dreams?

Ah, that was a reference to the fact that my vote was on Zazak, not an "I believe you!".

By #553 even I suspected him.

Go to the light... Good luck...

How exactly would he act scummier? I think if his goal was indeed to be lynched, he made a good job of being that suspect. He just couldn't beat gogtrial's hammer in scummy level.

That's a very late "bah" post... although I guess in this context "hah!" post is probably better.

@SirPrimalform. OK. I still don't like you this game. Get a general scumminess feeling from you.

When was the last time you were not scum? Seems ages ago. Joe's game? I can't even compare your gamestyle here to your Town self.

Anyway.

Why was trent killed?

He wasn't particularly at odds with anyone. He was a good candidate to be lynched due to his lurkiness this game. The only player he felt strongly about was zazak being Town.

An answer might be precisely that: because his wagon analysis leads to nothing. Still...

Why wasn't zazak killed?

He seemed like the obvious choice to me. He's going to be difficult to lynch (and he himself wanted out of game).
Is that because he is scum? But then why kill trent? Barring some heavy WIFOM I don't see it.