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Miaghstir:
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adambiser: Hmm, ESET NOD32 warns me of a "HTML/ScrInject.B.Gen virus" threat on that page and blocks it.
Yes, seconded, with NOD
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kavazovangel: Internet Explorer and Windows Live Mail are not free to use programs?
Can you run IE outside of Windows without breaking the EULA?
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Snickersnack: Can you run IE outside of Windows without breaking the EULA?
Don't know. What does that has to do with excluding it in the list. Its not like you can run some of the other things listed there on your NetWare server or whatever.
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Snickersnack: Can you run IE outside of Windows without breaking the EULA?
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kavazovangel: Don't know. What does that has to do with excluding it in the list. Its not like you can run some of the other things listed there on your NetWare server or whatever.
If you have to buy a companion product (Windows) to legally run it I'm not sure it's free.
Post edited January 05, 2012 by Snickersnack
http://www.reaper.fm/

A really neat Audio Production app. Reaper isn't technically "Free", but you aren't forced to purchase it, either. You can just keep closing the Purchase window after every boot and you'll be fine.
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Snickersnack: If you have to buy a companion product (Windows) to legally run it I'm not sure it's free.
Whatever.
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Snickersnack: If you have to buy a companion product (Windows) to legally run it I'm not sure it's free.
Then no software is free. They all require a companion product (a computer).
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adambiser: Hmm, ESET NOD32 warns me of a "HTML/ScrInject.B.Gen virus" threat on that page and blocks it.
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Huff: Yes, seconded, with NOD
Hmm I would guess that's a false positive, but can't really be sure. avast! doesn't say anything.
I'd recommend adding Cameyo to the list. http://www.cameyo.com/products.aspx

I love it for keeping my install relatively clean and for making it easier to keep my saves with the applications I use across computers.
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Snickersnack: If you have to buy a companion product (Windows) to legally run it I'm not sure it's free.
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adambiser: Then no software is free. They all require a companion product (a computer).
The thread is discussing software.

Internet Explorer is an important browser that effects everyone on the web. As such, it's a valuable piece of software to run on Windows compatible platforms but you still need a MS Windows license (pricey) to run legally. Frustratingly, that makes it quite different from other pieces of software on A_Future_Pilot's list.
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Snickersnack: As such, it's a valuable piece of software to run on Windows compatible platforms but you still need a MS Windows license (pricey) to run legally.
I thought they had IE on Mac as well.

I can't find the IE9 EULA, so I can't confirm that it explicitly requires you to also license MS Windows.
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Snickersnack: Internet Explorer is an important browser that effects everyone on the web. As such, it's a valuable piece of software to run on Windows compatible platforms but you still need a MS Windows license (pricey) to run legally.
I would guess the list is aimed at Windows users anyway. Of course, those running Windows (95b or newer) already have some version of Internet Explorer. I'm still not sure what you're trying to say.
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adambiser: I thought they had IE on Mac as well.
"Had" being the important bit there. It was discontinued in 2003 after version 5.2.3 and 5.1.7 (For OS X and Mac OS 9, respectively), which was in some ways much more advanced than Internet Explorer for Windows, at least until IE7 arrived (and worse in other ways), it also used different javascript and rendering engines from IE for Windows, so it wasn't the same application by most measures.

There were also Unix versions of Explorer 4 (for HP/UX, and a couple others), these, however, were ports of the Windows version, unlike the mac version.
Post edited January 05, 2012 by Miaghstir
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Miaghstir: "Had" being the important bit there. It was discontinued
Thanks for the info.

I did finally find the IE9 EULA and it is a supplemental license and Snickersnack says. However, like you (Miaghstir) said, this list seems aimed at Windows users anyway, so agreeing to the Windows license is not an issue.

I wouldn't include it since it comes with Windows itself, as you also mentioned.
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Snickersnack: As such, it's a valuable piece of software to run on Windows compatible platforms but you still need a MS Windows license (pricey) to run legally.
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adambiser: I thought they had IE on Mac as well.

I can't find the IE9 EULA, so I can't confirm that it explicitly requires you to also license MS Windows.
I forgot about Mac IE. Unfortunately that ceased development almost 10 years ago.


This appears to be the EULA of IE9:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/internet-explorer/products/ie-9/end-user-license-agreement

[i]"Microsoft Corporation (or based on where you live, one of its affiliates) licenses this supplement to you. If you are licensed to use Microsoft Windows 7, Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, or Windows Server 2008 R2 software (for which this supplement is applicable) (the “software”), you may use this supplement. You may not use it if you do not have a license for the software. You may use this supplement with each validly licensed copy of the software."
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