Posted June 02, 2015
jefequeso
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amok
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Posted June 02, 2015
never mind....
Post edited June 02, 2015 by amok
DCT
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ZocomMAX
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Posted June 02, 2015
I wonder how many people who get game that get banned from cheating on the first day will do a refund XD I can see this working in favor of cheaters, But non the less this is a smart move they had to do. What took them so long I have no fucking Idea.
OneFiercePuppy
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Posted June 02, 2015
Could be. But it should be mentioned that this new policy fairly well mirrors policy that Steam is legally required to obey to sell things in Europe anyway. This could be just a "Look at how nice we are" spin on something that they had to do anyway, and that more and more people know about as time goes by.
It would be nice if GOG were able to pull Steam in a more consumer-friendly direction, but the size difference is like saying "the earth doesn't orbit the sun, it orbits a point between the two bodies." Of course that's right, but...it's a small matter, and easily rounded to zero ^_^
[url= And, technically, the point that it orbits varies since it's really the center of mass of the entire solar system, which of course "wobbles" as the planets dance in their orbits on the crystal spheres. What? You forgot about the phloigston?][/url]
It would be nice if GOG were able to pull Steam in a more consumer-friendly direction, but the size difference is like saying "the earth doesn't orbit the sun, it orbits a point between the two bodies." Of course that's right, but...it's a small matter, and easily rounded to zero ^_^
[url= And, technically, the point that it orbits varies since it's really the center of mass of the entire solar system, which of course "wobbles" as the planets dance in their orbits on the crystal spheres. What? You forgot about the phloigston?][/url]
Oriza-Triznyák
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Posted June 02, 2015
And how many people will buy a gift , trade it and then ask for a refund ?
DCT
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Posted June 02, 2015
Depends on what kind of Ban, I seem to recall one of the stipulations is if you had received a VAC ban on a game you can not get a refund.
OneFiercePuppy
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Posted June 02, 2015
The T&C explicitly say that if VAC tags you, you become ineligible for the refund
Pheace
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Posted June 02, 2015
DCT: Galaxy rushed? why do people keep saying that? how is a software actively in Beta and marked as such rushed? I can see if they released it in Alpha/Beta state and claimed it was the finished product sure but making the Beta available to the public is not rushing it.
It was 'pushed to the public' because of the Witcher 3, not only is it linked on every gamepage in your library now but Witcher 3 came with it and the default install instructions used Galaxy. Clearly they wanted to coincide the release of the Witcher 3 with the client but realistically, the client isn't up to snuff for that yet. It's offered some bad experiences for people (mainly Witcher 3 buyers no doubt) which could easily have been avoided had they waited to combine their client with sales till it was done.
Post edited June 02, 2015 by Pheace
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Posted June 02, 2015
MikeMaximus: Well there's some games that can be free of the client, like KSP, WItcher 3, Wasteland 2.
Most games do require the client running when launched though.
They could also start automated of monitoring long offline periods vs. refund applications.
Grargar: I wouldn't really call those as some games. Granted, it's not an official and 100% accurate list and it's still a small percentage out of the whole Steam catalog (less than 10%?), but they're still more than enough. Most games do require the client running when launched though.
They could also start automated of monitoring long offline periods vs. refund applications.
Of course they could do something, but only when they realise what kind of potential for abuse exists.
DeathDiciple
Registered: Dec 2013
From Serbia
Posted June 02, 2015
"VAC Bans
If you have been banned by VAC (the Valve Anti-Cheat system) on a game, you lose the right to refund that game.
Refunds on Gifts
We are unable to offer refunds for gifts after they have been redeemed by the recipient."
Cmon, they aren't stupid :P
If you have been banned by VAC (the Valve Anti-Cheat system) on a game, you lose the right to refund that game.
Refunds on Gifts
We are unable to offer refunds for gifts after they have been redeemed by the recipient."
Cmon, they aren't stupid :P
Post edited June 02, 2015 by DeathDiciple
Grargar
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Posted June 02, 2015
That might be possible for a lot of games, but what could they do about DOSBox/Flash games? Even Valve themselves say that Steam's DRM can't be applied on Flash games.
tfishell
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Posted June 02, 2015
Please tell me people aren't complaining about this just because Steam and GOG both have refunds now. This is fantastic news!
Just make sure you back up your GOG games because, obviously, now Steam will crush GOG since they are basically the same, and we will all cry ourselves to sleep.
Just make sure you back up your GOG games because, obviously, now Steam will crush GOG since they are basically the same, and we will all cry ourselves to sleep.
Post edited June 02, 2015 by tfishell
ZocomMAX
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Posted June 02, 2015
DreamedArtist: I wonder how many people who get game that get banned from cheating on the first day will do a refund XD I can see this working in favor of cheaters, But non the less this is a smart move they had to do. What took them so long I have no fucking Idea.
OneFiercePuppy: The T&C explicitly say that if VAC tags you, you become ineligible for the refund DCT
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Posted June 02, 2015
DCT: Galaxy rushed? why do people keep saying that? how is a software actively in Beta and marked as such rushed? I can see if they released it in Alpha/Beta state and claimed it was the finished product sure but making the Beta available to the public is not rushing it.
Pheace: It was 'pushed to the public' because of the Witcher 3, not only is it linked on every gamepage in your library now but Witcher 3 came with it and the default install instructions used Galaxy. Clearly they wanted to coincide the release of the Witcher 3 with the client but realistically, the client isn't up to snuff for that yet. It's offered some bad experiences for people (mainly Witcher 3 buyers no doubt) which could easily have been avoided had they waited to combine their client with sales till it was done.