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eksasol: I just had to make sure. Because it get lumped with other religions, and some people don't listen to certain bands because they're self acclaimed atheist.
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zeogold: That doesn't mean I'm not going to read the works of Richard Dawkins thwater".
He was great on "Hogan's Heroes". :P
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No, of course NOT! Me, for example, HATE communism/communists among other things... But i always loved ex-USSR music, like the Red Army Choir/Alexandrov Ensemble. Me, for second example, HATE fascists, but a local singer who was labelled and branded as being one, is my favorite and his songs are beloved by many other locals, too.

As long as they keep their ideology inside their heads and don't struggle to impose it on others, all is okay. As long as they don't commit sacrilege on art, by turning it into a yellow vessel so they can shoe-horn their personal beliefs to others, all is okay.

Now look over Baldur's Gate Siege of Dragonspear. Social Justice Warriors take art from someone else even worse, shit on it, smear the sludge all over it, then "launch" it by farting it through their asses and straight on the face of people who loved the original thing. Now THIS is the example to be avoided...
Post edited October 19, 2016 by KiNgBrAdLeY7
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DaCostaBR: No. I meant the movie Chinatown directed by Roman Polanski. Sorry for not being clearer.
Relief..... ;)

And yes I know what you mean, and as far I know he still hasn't been extradited, right?
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Ophelium: can you divorce your personal opinion of the creator from his/her work?
No. If someone supports things that my principles are against then I oppose them. Companies like Sapphire (graphics cards) partnering with unauthorized resellers (g2a and kinguin) with affiliate links are a problem. They make good products for gaming, and then embrace anti-gaming.

Another example would be companies that have unethical work practices, like slave labor (while a lot of these exist in Asia, a close one to us is the Kerbal Space Program developers that ripped off its employees) or environmentally hazardous ones. Even something as simple as supporting cage-free eggs is a step in the direction I'd rather be in.

So no, my opinion about the workers is a big influence on how I view their products and will determine whether or not I support them.
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trentonlf: I was not saying he was supporting the person, just that others might see it that way (there are a lot of narrow minded people in this world unfortunately)
I know that, but what I'm saying is if that OP doesn't publicly endorse the guy or otherwise go around saying "Hey! I watch X! He's so funny!", then he doesn't really have to worry about it. He just enjoys what he enjoys in private.

To translate this into forum-speak so you GOGers can get it:
It's like porn habits. Watching in private is fun, but it might get weird if you share it with others.
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eksasol: I just had to make sure. Because it get lumped with other religions, and some people don't listen to certain bands because they're self acclaimed atheist.
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zeogold: I'm a Christian. That doesn't mean I'm not going to read the works of Richard Dawkins and that I can't admire his scientific work despite the fact that his entire campaign is anti-religion.

My point is that it doesn't matter what your beliefs are. It's foolish to devalue a person's accomplishments or abilities just because of their personal values. That's what we call "throwing the baby out with the bathwater".
Throwing the baby out with the bath water came from a time when the family shared a bath (usually once a month or longer I believe) and the order was the man of the house first and the baby was last. So by the time the baby got to bathe the water was so dirty if someone was in it all you could see is what was above the water, thus when they tossed the bath water out (there was no plumbing) they had to pay attention to what was in the water itself because of how dirty it was. Since the baby bathed last the saying of "throwing the baby out with the bath water" came about, meaning pay attention to what you are doing.
Post edited October 19, 2016 by trentonlf
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trentonlf: Throwing the baby out with the bath water came from a time when he family shared a bath (usually once a month or longer I believe) and the order was the man of the house first and the baby was last. So by the time the baby got to bathe the water was so dirty if someone was in it all you could see is what was above the water, thus when they tossed the bath water out (there was no plumbing) they had to pay attention to what was in the water itself because of how dirty it was. Since the baby bathed last the saying of "throwing the baby out with the bath water" came about, meaning pay attention to what you are doing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_throw_the_baby_out_with_the_bathwater
"Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater is an idiomatic expression and a concept[1] used to suggest an avoidable error in which something good is eliminated when trying to get rid of something bad"
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zeogold: I'm a Christian. That doesn't mean I'm not going to read the works of Richard Dawkins and that I can't admire his scientific work despite the fact that his entire campaign is anti-religion.

My point is that it doesn't matter what your beliefs are. It's foolish to devalue a person's accomplishments or abilities just because of their personal values. That's what we call "throwing the baby out with the bathwater".
Sorry have to bash you there!!!!! ;)

Darwin is NOT anti-religion. The top person, the pope and the Vatican is ENDORSING his view point.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/4588289/The-Vatican-claims-Darwins-theory-of-evolution-is-compatible-with-Christianity.html

You can check on the Vatican website as well!

http://www.vatican.va/news_services/liturgy/details/ns_lit_doc_20120530_quando-celebrare3_en.html

If those bloody Christians would ever get their facts right ;) :P *grumbling into my bear: I thought I did teach Zeogold to be a better christian*
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zeogold: I know that, but what I'm saying is if that OP doesn't publicly endorse the guy or otherwise go around saying "Hey! I watch X! He's so funny!", then he doesn't really have to worry about it. He just enjoys what he enjoys in private.

To translate this into forum-speak so you GOGers can get it:
It's like porn habits. Watching in private is fun, but it might get weird if you share it with others.
I did share a link with my gaming group once. That was part of my issue with whether to continue watching or not.
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Goodaltgamer: Relief..... ;)

And yes I know what you mean, and as far I know he still hasn't been extradited, right?
Prosecutors declined to challenge the courts' last ruling, so it should all be over now.
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Ophelium: can you divorce your personal opinion of the creator from his/her work?
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MaximumBunny: No. If someone supports things that my principles are against then I oppose them. Companies like Sapphire (graphics cards) partnering with unauthorized resellers (g2a and kinguin) with affiliate links are a problem. They make good products for gaming, and then embrace anti-gaming.

Another example would be companies that have unethical work practices, like slave labor (while a lot of these exist in Asia, a close one to us is the Kerbal Space Program developers that ripped off its employees) or environmentally hazardous ones. Even something as simple as supporting cage-free eggs is a step in the direction I'd rather be in.

So no, my opinion about the workers is a big influence on how I view their products and will determine whether or not I support them.
I think that's a little different. You're talking about actual monetary support (via buying their products), whereas OP is just talking about laughing it up at some videos/comments made by a person. OP might think the videos are funny, but that doesn't mean he's going to buy a t-shirt the guy's selling or something.
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Goodaltgamer: Devils advocate here: You have used aspirin? Do you know where it is coming from? (not really related to art, but the underlying problem me thinks well involved as well)
Didn't mean to ignore you, I'm surprised by the response my question got.

I have used aspirin. I don't know where it's coming from and I'm comfortable not knowing. Aspirin has broad utility though...so I'm not sure what you're getting at.
One thing I want to get out because it has become a rift in my family.

My brother thinks I refuse to listen to Ted Nugent because of his politics.

Wrong.

Ted wouldn't know a good song if it came up and but him on the ass.

That's why I refuse to listen to him.
Post edited October 19, 2016 by tinyE
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Goodaltgamer: Relief..... ;)

And yes I know what you mean, and as far I know he still hasn't been extradited, right?
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DaCostaBR: Prosecutors declined to challenge the courts' last ruling, so it should all be over now.
arrrg to many replies ;)

I thought they really wanted to get him? I didn't really see any big coverage about it....It WAS big news when it first happened.
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Ophelium: I did share a link with my gaming group once.
In that case, I'd say it depends on how well they know you.
If they're smart enough to know you're just sharing something funny you found on the internet, that's fine.
If they're stupid enough to associate the guy's beliefs with your beliefs, you might wanna hold back.

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Goodaltgamer: Darwin is NOT anti-religion. The top person, the pope and the Vatican is ENDORSING his view point.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/4588289/The-Vatican-claims-Darwins-theory-of-evolution-is-compatible-with-Christianity.html
....I said RICHARD DAWKINS, not CHARLES DARWIN.
Post edited October 19, 2016 by zeogold