Are they the next 3 Presidential nominees? In which case I'd agree with that

Yeah, the investigations are definitely problematic. I can't really see a fascist lying and saying a liberal is fascist (because the fact they were the president who passed a fascist policy already puts them in a bad light and claiming that someone like greek was a fascist probably wouldn't work anyway).
So more likely is a fascist investigating one of his buddies (or Hitler) and saying they're a Liberal.

Unfortunately I can't really see a way around this issue, other than that if the chancellor and president disagree about the policies it's more likely the president is liberal (a fascist president gets a fascist policy passed by not passing liberal policies so both parties should agree what cards were seen, whereas a fascist chancellor can pass a fascist policy if given the choice of one) and therefore their investigation can be trusted. Though even that is not fool proof.

STRUDEL KNOWS NOTHING!

The votes are in! The results are as follows.

1. The Greek (greeklover) - NO
2. Boss Kusu (kusumahendra) - NO
3. Mr. Scene (supplementscene) - NO
4. Basil the Lifter (lifthrasil) - NO
5. Bishop Bling (ZFR) - YES
6. Captain Dedo (dedoporno) - NO
7. General Warehall (RWarehall) - YES
8. Adalia the Bookkeeper (adaliabooks) - YES
9. Big Brass (Brasas) - NO
10. Chief Blotunga (blotunga) - YES

The government is not approved!
The council slowly inches towards chaos!

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The current president is now dedoporno, who must select a chancellor. The chancellor cannot be anybody from the previous elected government (lifthrasil and greeklover).

No. First he must select a person to investigate in case his givernment passes a fascist policy.

Hey everyone. Sorry for not being around for the past couple of days - they were quite busy. It's 4:15 AM here at the moment so I'm not even going to try and catch up. I see ZFR's government failed and I'm in line. I should be on later today to pick up.

Because of how you "miscommunicated" what you now say you meant... I don't blame you, it's not easy to fully get oneself in the shoes of the opposite faction. I certainly have not managed to fully put myself in fascist ZFR shoes and better grok how the miscommunications would make more sense from that perspective - although that is certainly my prior here - that you slipped.

Zeo voss azzleep... :P

*scratches head*
You are not making this easier on yourself... o_0 what you posted makes hardly any sense. As Liberal, the investigatee is the one that actually might gain certain knowledge based on what is announced from an investigator. How much you trust the investigator as the investigatee is completely irrelevant.

It's like... I could see you asking to be investigated by a strong Liberal so the group regains trust in you. But you didn't write "please" nor is there a "?" and it's not your trust that matters...

Am I tunneling here? If anyone - and particularly the ones that voted Yes to president ZFR - can help me out I'd really appreciate it. And please don't just say he can be a stressed townie. Ofc he can, but do you see actual evidence in the context or word choice or whatever that you can point to?

Does not compute.

At this time, to get to a greek government on priority we need to pass at least two policies and reject 3 proposed government. Which to reject and which to pass is flexible order. We can get to greek with the following president pairs (not mentioning chancellors):

dedo then adalia = reject RW + reject me and blotunga
dedo then me = reject RW and adalia + reject blotunga
RW then adalia = reject dedo + reject me and blotunga
RW then me = reject dedo + reject adalia + reject blotunga
RW then blotunga = reject dedo + reject adalia and me

Given this, will you vote No to dedo's team no matter what?

Spreading FUD? :) But not alignment indicative... :D

I smiled... :) I think you're scum but thanks for being a good sport about it.

You sure you don't want to tell us who Hitler is? Just imagine the WIFOM potential. You can say it's me! You can say it's Greek? You can even say who it really is and maybe no one will believe you?

You just need to admit what most of us have figured out... no more stress! :D

PS: Please no Mystic River scenario.

@Brasas: my current read of the game is this:
Kusu - fascist, ZFR - might be fascist or even Hitler (though given the lead I assumed it wouldn't be a huge issue even if he were). I he is Hitler actually that would've helped us since it's unlikely he'd get a term as chancellor except if he gave at least one liberal card to scene. That was the assumption of my yes. I actually started suspecting this at the "scandal" of voting against himself.
So in the next 4 possible presidents there are likely two fascists hiding. For me you being always no, even if things are unclear puts you higher up the suspect list than others. So no offence, but I would avoid to see you in a government in any role. Sorry, but you brought this on yourself...
That leaves me no real choice except to vote against dedo. Adalia just took over from cristi. Now i have no idea about her alignment, she might've been to busy to keep up and give any input, but for now I'd avoid adalia too, until I have a better idea. This also means that I'll vote RWarehall. It's not a bad idea imho.
I might also be completely wrong about everything.

I would also like to add that voting RW has the advantage of giving us a choice between brasas and blotunga later. Adalia is an obvious no since she had practically no participation in the game. So if we voted for dedoporno we would be locked to brasas. But with RW we can see how the investigation goes and act accordingly.

Yupp, this is also true.

Nope, you own your vote and the overall change of approach from No to Yes. But figure of speech aside, I have nothing against its self-interested convenience for you. The logic is clear, even if you hadn't seen it before I made it explicit.

I will do a reread of you though, because I think you arrived late at the "let's get to greek ASAP" wagon and that plus the camouflage of "for me to be on a team I need to vote X" is just so neatly convenient.


Meanwhile, please expand what you mean by "even if things are unclear"? What exactly about my No votes do you find scummy? :)

Also would like you to expand on the Kusu fascist read please. Because to me, one of you or both of you are likely Fascist(s)...

I understand I've come into this on the back foot with cristi's (lack of) participation so while I know I'm a good choice for president I understand everyone else is likely doubtful of that.

dedo, RWarehall and Brasas are all about even for me, with blotunga a little lower on the list.
RWarehall then Brasas probably makes the most sense if RWarehall then me is off the table.

I wasn't just pulling my hair. At one point yesterday I was really pissed. I put a lot of effort into this game. I spent time analyzing the possible scenarios, time during which I could be playing a video game or spending with my wife and family, shared it all here for everyone to read. And what do I get in return? Suddenly I'm the number 1 suspect. And if it at least was for something I did do, like not voting for myself (to which I did give my reasons) or selecting my chancellor without consulting, then fair enough. But someone went through my posts with a fine tooth comb (heyscene, I'm still waiting for those posts where I accused someone of being fascist, or questions I didn't answer), looking for "slips" like adding the word genuinely or Brasas's:

Serliously? What the ... is that even supposed to mean? No, seriously, explain how by writing what I did I'm being scum. When I wrote that I was considering investigating my chancellor, scene, but I wouldn't have done it if I passed him a LF policy because then I'd know for sure. So I wrote what I wrote. P might want to investigate C but not if C wasn't passed FF.
Double negative? Sure. Could have been worded better? Yes. But why the heck is it indicative of scumminess? There are dozens of badly worded posts. OMG, your scumbuddy Lift one time slipped and wrote Brasas instead of greek. Let's all investigate that!!!!!

If I ignore these accusations it looks bad. If I reply to them it looks bad. No matter what I do now my image is tainted. And the fact that I'm getting all worked up about a game only annoys me more. Thank you. It warms my heart to know all the effort I put into this game was so well received. But by the looks of it we are going to win anyway, so at this point I couldn't care less. It's the weekend and the weather outside is nice.

Thank you too. Now I'm also Hitler.

Anyway, since cristi being away might be an indication on why scum haven't been pulling their weight (sorry, adalia), and I'm not voting for Brasas, you seem to be the best of the trio before greek (if we get to greek). So I'm voting RW + blotunga.


Yeah sure: Greek is Hitler and my scumbuddies are RW and adalia. Enjoy your game.

Quite frankly, the fact that Brasas has voted "No" to every successful liberal policy concerns me. Granted he has been consistently voting "No". But what really bothers me is the way he seemingly held out at the end to be the final vote and tried hard to pry into how everyone was voting. Leaves open the possibility he was deciding how best to vote for personal advantage.

My preference for the last 3 before Greek is:
Blotunga - not much to go on, but more than Adalia
Adalia - I don't trust Brasas, middle by default
Brasas

Hey, don't question him!!!! He just votes NO by default!!!!!!!