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Posted October 19, 2022
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my name is grompy catte: Well I do partially blame GOG for not getting the game or at least negotiating a deal where they can say that they will be getting it and when that is.
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Vainamoinen: Beggars can't be ... well, you know the rest. The Monkey Island franchise has a huge significance on GOG, and I'm dead certain they've thrown everything they could into the negotiations (up to and including an adjustment of their storefront to no longer take reviews from people who don't own the game). For reasons unknown to us, probably unknown to us forever, these negotiations did not have the desired result. I don't blame GOG.

And I don't even blame the publisher. For some reason the GOG wasn't attractive enough to them for a day one release. GOG wasn't worth the effort. Publishers like Devolver can not afford to be stupid. Devolver definitely isn't. Had they thought to make a good cut here, they would have released day one (Disney permitting).

There are just way too many unknowns in the equation to shift blame. The deathly silence, I think, is to keep the unknowns unknowns and the blame shifting to a minimum.

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my name is grompy catte: I think that would be good for GOG. An equivalent to the common practice where if you buy a vinyl record these days it usually includes a link to download a digital version, or a code for somewhere like Bandcamp.
If GOG could establish themselves as providing a similar service for physical publishers like Limited Run Games I think it could grow GOG's audience.
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Vainamoinen: You're right. On thing irks me though, which is that providing keys to developers is something that GOG has done free of charge in the past. They did this for free because Valve did it for free, they didn't take money for their elementary hosting services because Steam never did. But for such a deal to be a good deal, these hosting services absolutely should be fairly paid! Doing it "for exposure" is something Valve can afford, but GOG never could.
Absolutely, I was assuming GOG would get a certain cut for providing the service (not as much as they would from a purchase on the site, but something to cover the cost of hosting).
Posted October 19, 2022
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Vainamoinen: And I don't even blame the publisher. ...
I do blame the publisher.
A sale is a sale. Why choose to turn your back on a sale? Why choose not to sell it to so many fans who want to buy it? It makes no sense.

Releasing the game on GOG would have brought them so many more sales, with no effort from them.

I said it before, but making it steam-DRM only, PREVENTS sales.
Posted October 19, 2022
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FrodoBaggins: I do blame the publisher.
What if Devolver has been pushing for a gog release, but Disney stopped the whole idea at the last minute?

And that's not foo far fetched – the spreadsheet entry for GOG version bugs clearly counted on a GOG release at a time they still had to catch these early bugs.

What's pointing at Devolver though is that they released another game in the meantime, also not on GOG.
Posted October 20, 2022
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FrodoBaggins: I do blame the publisher.
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Vainamoinen: What if Devolver has been pushing for a gog release, but Disney stopped the whole idea at the last minute?

And that's not foo far fetched – the spreadsheet entry for GOG version bugs clearly counted on a GOG release at a time they still had to catch these early bugs.

What's pointing at Devolver though is that they released another game in the meantime, also not on GOG.
Yeah, it could be Disney... or Devolver... or both.

It's so frustrating, not knowing WHY the game isn't out on GOG.

Maybe... maybe all the versions of Guybrush from the previous games met each other. And there can't be more than one Guybrush in a single universe, so they all got sucked into a black hole?
Posted October 20, 2022
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Vainamoinen: What if Devolver has been pushing for a gog release, but Disney stopped the whole idea at the last minute?
And what if Disney wanted (we also have Disney games here) and Devolver didn't?
After all there are apparently other Devolver games that didn't get released here (yet).
Someone also said it's Ron who is still missing money from GOG for Thimbleweed park
All we have are speculations and rumors.

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FrodoBaggins: It's so frustrating, not knowing WHY the game isn't out on GOG.
True. Personally I don't think it's about GOG at all, Epic didn't get MI6 either. Could be simply a "Let's stay on Steam and let that be the end of it".
Personal issues? Something legal (3 companies involved)? We don't know.
Post edited October 20, 2022 by neumi5694
Posted October 20, 2022
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neumi5694: We don't know.
That's kind of the headline here. :(

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neumi5694: And what if Disney wanted (we also have Disney games here) and Devolver didn't?
After all there are apparently other Devolver games that didn't get released here (yet).
Someone also said it's Ron who is still missing money from GOG for Thimbleweed park
All we have are speculations and rumors
Disney's word is the word of god. If Disney as the self proclaimed "steward of the brand" told Devolver today to release R2MI on gog.com on day one, Devolver would invent a time machine to make it still possible. ;) ;)

But last week's Devolver release (The Eternal Cylinder) in fact didn't make it here yet, and that irks me greatly.

We can put the "missing money" thing to rest though, and quickly please, because we have enough rumors going on right now. Terrible Toybox received their money for Thimbleweed Park sales LATE back in 2017, and that seems to be a common occurrence with GOG as they, if I'm not mistaken, have a longer payment deadline in their contract.

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FrodoBaggins: It's so frustrating, not knowing WHY the game isn't out on GOG.
My "wee skulls" list tried to gather possible reasons, and it immediately exploded into a 14 in part overlapping bullet point hell. We don't even know when we'll hear official info.
Post edited October 20, 2022 by Vainamoinen
Posted October 20, 2022
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Vainamoinen: Disney's word is the word of god. If Disney as the self proclaimed "steward of the brand" told Devolver today to release R2MI on gog.com on day one, Devolver would invent a time machine to make it still possible. ;) ;)
As I said, it's all speculations. Blaming Devolver is just as pointless as blaming Disney.

In the past, Disney let their partners pretty much do as they saw fit.
We got some disney games here (also the new collection from a few yearsa ago) and other we miss (Castle of Illusion). Both Disney, but different partners. They tend not to dictate what is done, not in movies, not in comics, not in games, they haven't done so during the past 70 years.

As long as Disney gets money, Disney is happy.


Let's just hope for the best.
Posted October 20, 2022
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Vainamoinen: Disney's word is the word of god. If Disney as the self proclaimed "steward of the brand" told Devolver today to release R2MI on gog.com on day one, Devolver would invent a time machine to make it still possible. ;) ;)
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neumi5694: We got some disney games here (also the new collection from a few yearsa ago) and other we miss (Castle of Illusion). Both Disney, but different partners.
I'm still sad I never got to play DuckTales: Remastered, it looked promising.
Posted October 20, 2022
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neumi5694: We got some disney games here (also the new collection from a few yearsa ago) and other we miss (Castle of Illusion). Both Disney, but different partners.
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Sir_Kill_A_Lot: I'm still sad I never got to play DuckTales: Remastered, it looked promising.
That one's actually DRM free, but of course you have to sell your soul to the devil in order to get it.
Posted October 20, 2022
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Sir_Kill_A_Lot: I'm still sad I never got to play DuckTales: Remastered, it looked promising.
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neumi5694: That one's actually DRM free
That's nice! (I looked it up on https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/)

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neumi5694: but of course you have to sell your soul to the devil in order to get it.
Sounds fair, and as long as Steam doesn't get a single cent from this deal it's OK with me.
Post edited October 20, 2022 by Sir_Kill_A_Lot
Posted October 20, 2022
I know a pirate named Guybrush.
Who always was in such a rush.
He met his true love.
Elaine - she's the Gov.
Now all he can do, is blush.
Posted October 23, 2022
Tomorrow's going to be the day.
Return To Monkey Island will finally arrive at GOG.
It's gonna happen, I can feel it in my bones!
We can groove with Guybrush, excite with Elaine, shimmy with Stan, mosey down with Murray, and go crazy with Carla.






Am I just setting myself up for another disappointment???
*sad face*
Posted October 23, 2022
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FrodoBaggins: Am I just setting myself up for another disappointment???
Likely, yes. If they're not gearing up for a January release or some such excrement, they'll at the very least wait for the Linux version to be finished.
Posted October 24, 2022
I'm just about out of hype at this point. At this point I'm not sure I'd buy it straight away at full price if (when!) it does come to GOG.
Posted October 24, 2022
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my name is anime catte: I'm just about out of hype at this point. At this point I'm not sure I'd buy it straight away at full price if (when!) it does come to GOG.
Pretty sure I still would. If I was around at the time, that is, because that take a peek every evening phase is over now. It's just too disappointing.
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