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Posted August 26, 2015
Goodbyes are not forever (and war never changes).

It's not the first time we give this advice, but remember to take your Rad-X pills, try not to mistake a G.E.C.K for a gecko (not even remotely the same thing!), and take good care of yourself out there in the wasteland: <span class="bold">Fallout</span>, the premiere post nuclear role playing game franchise, is back.
The Fallout games have been with us on day one, and they played an inseparable part in defining the early GOG.com catalog. When they got swept away by radioactive winds, a gaping hole the size of California was left behind that we haven't quite been able to fill... until now!

Once again, you can pick up all three RPG classics at <span class="bold">66% off in a single post-apo bundle that includes:
--Fallout
--Fallout 2
--Fallout Tactics





We're welcoming Bethesda Softworks to GOG.com with more bundles, and tons of new classic releases - all DRM-free of course - and don't forget that two The Elder Scrolls classics (The Elder Scrolls: Arena and The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall) will drop like a bomb straight into your library, completely FREE with any Bethesda purchase. The bundle promos end on Wednesday, September 2, 12:59 PM GMT.





Stream watch:
Twitch.tv/GOGcom is worth your attention - we'll be showing off all three returning Fallout games over the next few days, along with many other Bethesda releases!

THURSDAY, August 27th:
4pm GMT / 6pm CEST / 12pm EDT / 9am PDT: Fallout Tactics with MegapiemanPHD

SATURDAY, August 29th:
6pm GMT / 8pm CEST / 2pm EDT / 11am PDT: Fallout 2 with Outstar
8pm GMT / 10pm CESt / 4pm EDT / 1pm PDT: Fallout 1 with Vlad of The Weekend Slice
Posted August 27, 2015
Im glad see Fallout games here!

I love Fallout games :)
Posted August 27, 2015
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SirPrimalform: It's pretty much the only topic of the thread. You don't have to read the whole thing to find the answer.
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mrkgnao: To be fair, I have read the entire thread and I still don't know the answer, hence why I asked the question again:
http://www.gog.com/forum/general/rerelease_fallout_series_72e26/post136
http://www.gog.com/forum/general/rerelease_fallout_series_72e26/post146
Sorry mrkgnao, I've missed that question. The are many internal reasons for this, but in general we needed to keep those two sets of products separate (different publisher, different sets of goodies, OS X version, generated gift codes etc.).
Post edited August 27, 2015 by Paczyk
Posted August 27, 2015
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mrkgnao: To be fair, I have read the entire thread and I still don't know the answer, hence why I asked the question again:
http://www.gog.com/forum/general/rerelease_fallout_series_72e26/post136
http://www.gog.com/forum/general/rerelease_fallout_series_72e26/post146
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Paczyk: Sorry mrkgnao, I've missed that question. The are many internal reasons for this, but in general we needed to keep those two sets of products separate (different publisher, different sets of goodies, OS X version, generated gift codes etc.).
OK. Thank you for the reply.
Posted August 27, 2015
Really nice to see the Fallout games coming back to GOG, good job!

But keeping them as separate games, does that mean the old versions aren't maintained anymore? Do the old games also get updates when the new games are updated? And do the new games count as owned when you already own the old ones when it comes to game bundles?
Posted August 27, 2015
Until GOG answers you...

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eiii: Really nice to see the Fallout games coming back to GOG, good job!

But keeping them as separate games, does that mean the old versions aren't maintained anymore? Do the old games also get updates when the new games are updated?
The old versions are being maintained, as evidenced by their being updated today (see the "what did just update?" thread).

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eiii: And do the new games count as owned when you already own the old ones when it comes to game bundles?
Most probably not, based on the blue answer two posts above yours. They are treated as entirely unrelated games, store-wise.
Posted August 27, 2015
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mrkgnao: The old versions are being maintained, as evidenced by their being updated today (see the "what did just update?" thread).
Phew! So at least the bitter pill isn't that big. Looks like I will get the German version even with the classic game. But of course I have no notification about the change in my account, why should I ... If the technical team on GOG would do their job only as half as good as the release team, GOG would be awesome. ;P

(And thanks again for the "what did just update?" thread, even when I mostly fail to follow it.)

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eiii: And do the new games count as owned when you already own the old ones when it comes to game bundles?
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mrkgnao: Most probably not, based on the blue answer two posts above yours. They are treated as entirely unrelated games, store-wise.
Sadly this sets a bad precedent. So far you could be sure when you own a game on GOG it always counted as that. And didn't Bethesda took over the Fallout series? So no, these are not different games.

As far as I remember there already has been at least one game where content has been removed (to be sold separately) where GOG was able to restrict only the download of that specific content for people which bought the game after the removal and not had to add a new release of the game to the catalog.
Post edited August 27, 2015 by eiii
Posted August 27, 2015
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eiii: As far as I remember there already has been at least one game where content has been removed (to be sold separately) where GOG was able to restrict only the download of that specific content for people which bought the game after the removal and not had to add a new release of the game to the catalog.
Actually, there are quite a few such examples. Indeed, technically, GOG already knows how to handle it, which is what prompted my question. My guess is that it was just simpler for everyone to separate the two entities completely.

Look on the bright side. Now you could have six Fallouts in your library.
Posted August 27, 2015
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DukeNukemForever: I would highly recommend that gog would add some more informations about the differences between Bethesdas re-releases and Interplay classic releases. So far I know the re-release has some mods added, like the Baldur's Gate remakes. Multilingual isn't also new, as the Interplay releases on Dotemu wee also multilingual. That's not a Bethesda excluse, only gogs late move to multilingual support. Also multiplatform support seems to be gone, but that's also no surprise, as GOG did back them for Interplay (first dosbox, later wine versions).

So yeah, some officieal explanations what's new would be very nice.

Edit: Another thing, thread title is talking about Fallout classics while the versions are not the new labelled classics from Interplay. So yeah, kind of confusing. So, are these versions the Bethesdas updated and modded versions like on steam, or are these just the old Interplay versions just new branded?
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Paczyk: The only difference between the Classic editions and the Fallouts from Bethesda is that the Classic versions (as we've decided to call them) have more bonus goodies and support one additional platform - OS X. Other than that, those two editions should be identical. The main reason for this difference is that the approval process for the remaining bonus goodies takes a lot of time and we didn't want to hold up the release just because of that. ;)
To answer another question - will we ever have them included in the Bethesda versions? We will do everything in our power, of course, but I can't say for certain that we will.
Did Bethesda seriously not let you bring the bonus materials on the rereleased versions when you already had them prepared as part of the original packages? Weak, Bethesda. Weak. I suppose it's nice that they're back so soon at all, but really, what rights did Interplay have to any of those materials? What is the legal hurdle? If it's just a matter of parity, then ok, that is partly understandable, but not when the originals already had these bonuses as part of their package. Weak.
Posted August 27, 2015
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eiii: As far as I remember there already has been at least one game where content has been removed (to be sold separately) where GOG was able to restrict only the download of that specific content for people which bought the game after the removal and not had to add a new release of the game to the catalog.
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mrkgnao: Actually, there are quite a few such examples. Indeed, technically, GOG already knows how to handle it, which is what prompted my question. My guess is that it was just simpler for everyone to separate the two entities completely.

Look on the bright side. Now you could have six Fallouts in your library.
Think I draw the line at owning multiple versions of the same game on gog.com. And everyone else should, too.

edit: don't blame me! I clicked a link and it opened firefox and then I was browing the site without between client and browser! I can damn well double post if I wants to.
Post edited August 27, 2015 by johnnygoging
Posted August 27, 2015
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johnnygoging: Think I draw the line at owning multiple versions of the same game on gog.com. And everyone else should, too.
Too late. I know of at least one person (not me) who already owns all six.
Post edited August 27, 2015 by mrkgnao
Posted August 27, 2015
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johnnygoging: Think I draw the line at owning multiple versions of the same game on gog.com. And everyone else should, too.
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mrkgnao: Too late. I know of at least one person (not me) that already owns all six.
Barry, right?
Posted August 27, 2015
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mrkgnao: Too late. I know of at least one person (not me) that already owns all six.
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johnnygoging: Barry, right?
Obviously. And I'm pretty sure he's not alone.
Posted August 27, 2015
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johnnygoging: What is the legal hurdle? If it's just a matter of parity, then ok, that is partly understandable, but not when the originals already had these bonuses as part of their package. Weak.
It could be as simple (and by simple, I mean hugely complicated in a way that only labyrinthine legal agreements with multiple parties, some of which no longer exist, can be ;) ) as Bethesda didn't bother to get the legal rights to the materials. I know in my Fallout 2 extras there's something called "The Bible" - I'm sure someone wrote, illustrated and published that. I'm sure they may or may not still hold the rights, as might some parent or subsidiary or dog or ferret of Interplay or whatever Interplay dissolved into. And if the transfer of those rights wasn't carried out because, really who even cared at the time when you're talking about massive legal documents dealing with one enormous company swallowing the holdings of another... then... well... No more goodies :(
Posted August 27, 2015
Oish...
I think I might've fallen pray to a Pavlovian wet-wired reflex reaction to the Fallout re-introduction offer.

I was so thrilled by their return that I checked nothing nor read any details of the bundle. Now that the blurring of the vision has returned and reality is congealing around me once again, I see with some coldish horror that I have a Windows-only bunch of games in my library, and that the forums speak of separated bundles and other unnerving stories.
It's my own fault, no question about that, like it's the fault of one who wakes in Las Vegas with a tattoo on their forhead, nevertheless I still would like to know if it is a permanent ink tattoo.

So, my Q is: When the Mac versions cometh, will they be a separate purchase?

I'd like to extend this question to include the "Walking Dead" and "Borderlands" series, that are Windows-only at the moment.

Thanks a lot for any untanglings provided (^_^)
Have a nice day GOG people!
Posted August 27, 2015
But... what happened to the Mac versions? We had them before...
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