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General discussionRemoved from catalog: Fallout 1, 2, & Tactics(1041 posts)(1041 posts)
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Posted December 31, 2013
Today, we bid farewell to the legendary post-apocalyptic 2D classics.

Due to circumstances beyond our control, we needed to pull the three classic Fallout games, that is Fallout, Fallout 2, and Fallout Tactics, from sale and remove them from our DRM-free catalog. These classic titles have been with us since day one, that is for over 5 years now, and they were always one of the highlights of the selection of games that we offer. There are very few titles in the history of computer role-playing games, that have had so much impact on the gaming landscape, players' expectations, and even the popular culture. The iconic setting, the memorable quotes, and unparalleled amount of fun and challenge these games provide--it's all burned in the memory of a whole generation of gamers. Probably even more than just one generation. It was an honor to have you here, Fallout. Take good care of yourself out there, try not to mistake a gecko for G.E.C.K. (not even remotely the same thing!), and remember to take your Rad-X pills!

<img src="http://www.gog.com/upload/images/2013/12/0100650e79ca7799caa0064b2e2611a62396ed6f.png">

All those who acquired Fallout, Fallout 2, or Fallout Tactics on GOG.com prior to the date of removal (that is before Tuesday, December 31st 2013, at 3:59PM GMT), will still be able to download the games' install files (as well as the bonus content) via the "My Games" section of their user accounts. Gift-codes for these three games acquired in our recent giveaway are no longer valid. However, if you own a gift-code for any or all of them that was purchased outside of the said giveaway, you'll still be able to redeem it in the foreseeable future.

We sincerely apologize for all the inconvenience this situation may have caused you. We invite you to browse through 671 other fantastic titles offered in our DRM-free catalog of the best games in history, and we wish you a Happy New Year of gaming!
Posted January 04, 2014
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LtDrak: Daggerfall is available absolutely free from Bethesda itself: http://www.elderscrolls.com/daggerfall/
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Crosmando: Don't link that version, it's bugged:
[url=http://theelderscrolls.wiwiland.net/?title=Daggerfall_:_DaggerfallSetup_EN]http://theelderscrolls.wiwiland.net/?title=Daggerfall_:_DaggerfallSetup_EN[/url]
Thanks for the link, Crosmando! Always wanted to play this.
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Robette: While we are at it... if I only would play Fallout 3 OR New Vegas ever... which of the two would it be?
I skipped over Fallout 3 and just started New Vegas and it's pretty cool. I'm right at the beginning and I shot one of the horned cow thingys and some guy started shooting at me from behind a building. I can tell that this is going to be fun!
Post edited January 04, 2014 by RevGalen
Posted January 04, 2014
...and the shortcomings of DD keep piling up. Since digital games are sold as if they were physical games, they should follow the same rules. IE, every distribution site should have a right to X amount of "inventory" in the form of keys to sell. Something like this, where one day the games were available, the next they were gone, is unacceptable. In this case, it is particularly poignant, since I would argue that the Fallout games have always been, and were until recently the marquee titles on the site.
Posted January 04, 2014
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cameroncr95: Oh herpes!

That is just dumb. The only reason it was removed is because now that bethesda as full say, they want them to be back to their original DRM forms. Bethesda is a greedy company.
Wait. The Fallout 1 & 2 never had any DRM. If you used the humongous install, you could have played the games with no disc in the unit. Only Tactics had a cd-check. And always remember the old Interplay motto ( the one before Caen brothers ): "By gamers, for gamers". The Steam releases belonged to the Herve Caen's Interplay.

In other news, it seems that Fo3 lost the gfwl from the Steam version ( happened last night ). Still no news of what will happen with the retail copies, if the owners of those will get the ability to put their key on steam, as Warner did with the Batman titles, or Take Two with Bioshock 2.
Posted January 04, 2014
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cameroncr95: Oh herpes!

That is just dumb. The only reason it was removed is because now that bethesda as full say, they want them to be back to their original DRM forms. Bethesda is a greedy company.
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wolfsrain: Wait. The Fallout 1 & 2 never had any DRM. If you used the humongous install, you could have played the games with no disc in the unit. Only Tactics had a cd-check. And always remember the old Interplay motto ( the one before Caen brothers ): "By gamers, for gamers". The Steam releases belonged to the Herve Caen's Interplay.

In other news, it seems that Fo3 lost the gfwl from the Steam version ( happened last night ). Still no news of what will happen with the retail copies, if the owners of those will get the ability to put their key on steam, as Warner did with the Batman titles, or Take Two with Bioshock 2.
Thanks for that, I will reinstall my steam backup and give it a whirl
Posted January 04, 2014
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=745237
Posted January 04, 2014
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RevGalen: Thanks for the link, Crosmando! Always wanted to play this.
Make sure you read the manual first, if you do.
Posted January 04, 2014
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mqstout: Zenimax, the awful company that sucks so hard from Valve's necrotic teet they can't tolerate even products that already were DRM-free to continue to be sold as such.
Worsener of TES... and destroyer of Id.
Actually, since 2013 has passed, we have proof that Bethesda and Zenimax are not concerned with allowing DRM-free games when they have the option. Remember the Elder Scrolls Anthology they released?

Aside from Arena and Daggerfall, which ran with the included DosBOX program, and I think Oblivion's vanilla disk, everything in that box required Steam to load and install. Unless someone used the Run Command trick to force an install versus a download.
Posted January 04, 2014
That is awful, these games were a part of my childhood and I think everyone should get to experience them. I'm just glad I am still able to download them, I was worried they would be pulled from my collection as well.
Posted January 04, 2014
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Naterrs: I was worried they would be pulled from my collection as well.
This line reminded me of a story I read regarding Steam few days ago. Link: http://hexus.net/gaming/news/pc/64193-order-war-first-game-erased-steam-user-libraries/

I don't see it a good reason to remove a game just because it has an always online drm and the servers have been shut down. Do I want to trust Steam after such a move? I never did, since the first day I registered. After such a move who can assure me that any other game in my library won't disappear as well for whatever blatant reason they may have.

The story above is a good eye opener and it truly shows what a risk digital downloads may pose. Who's to say a 3rd party pirate crack wouldn't have allowed this game to be played in Single Player mode?

This raises the question: Is it a good idea to download (no-steam-cracked) exe's for games one rightfully paid for so he can back them up on disc? This is a yes for me and it isn't pirates that would make me do it, but the developers themselves with their sick DRM.
Post edited January 04, 2014 by Ganni1987
Posted January 04, 2014
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zerodin: The main difference, the Xbox One is a big deal, Microsoft could stand to potentially lose billions, if they don't keep people happy.

Bethesda is just gonna bat the crybabies away like flies, and not feel any ill effects from this.
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SciFiCat: Any company that refuses to listen to the legitimate complaints of their customers and label them as "crybabies" are not only arrogant, but also short sighted and stupid.

Do you know which company did exactly that and is now is dire financial situation? Capcom. After years of ignoring their customers, cancelling one Megaman game after another, creating abusive DLC practices, ruining their flagship Resident Evil franchise, marginalizing their life long fans and driving their top talent away (Shinji Mikami and Keiji Inafune) the company is in shambles and all because Capcom precisely thought that their customer's complaints where "flies to bat away" as you put it. Well guess what? The "flies" flew away and took their money to spend it elsewhere.

If Bethesda continues to piss off customers and maintains arrogant policies as it has, you can be assured, a lot of people will not buy any game made by them to the point the effects will be noticed.
Capcom's problems have more to do with farming out their IPs to developers who can't get the job done, and mistakenly following gaming trends, which just won't work with those IPs.
You keep using examples that just don't quite fit the scenario here.
Find something that is actually comparable and get back to me.
Posted January 04, 2014
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Elmofongo: GOG YOU BETTER CONVINCE BETHESDA TO SELL FALLOUT HERE AGAIN, BUT UNDER THEIR NAME AND THEN SOME LIKE DAGGERFALL AND MORROWIND!!!

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO IT HELL SUCK THEIR D%$# IF YOU HAVE TO, OR EVERYONE IS DOOMED FOREVER TO LEGITIMATLLY GET THIS AWESOME GAME ON STEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL? Hahahaha
Posted January 04, 2014
In my eyes this translated as ;

The creators were unintentionally "shown up" by the fact titles a decade old made on small budgets proved to be substancially more popular amongst the gaming community than their more recent multi million dollar productions
Posted January 04, 2014
Funny enough, Bethesda's Fallout 3 boosted the sales for the original Fallout quite a bit. It also brought those titles in the light. Don't think Bethesda was happy with that turn of events.
Posted January 04, 2014
Hey GOG, can you please be more specific about it, like what is the cause of it and is there any chance that those titles will be here again soon?

Thanks.
Posted January 04, 2014
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tomer-k: Hey GOG, can you please be more specific about it, like what is the cause of it and is there any chance that those titles will be here again soon?

Thanks.
Contracts, NDAs etc. mean that no, they cannot.
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