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General discussionRemoved from catalog: Fallout 1, 2, & Tactics(1041 posts)(1041 posts)
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Posted December 31, 2013
Today, we bid farewell to the legendary post-apocalyptic 2D classics.

Due to circumstances beyond our control, we needed to pull the three classic Fallout games, that is Fallout, Fallout 2, and Fallout Tactics, from sale and remove them from our DRM-free catalog. These classic titles have been with us since day one, that is for over 5 years now, and they were always one of the highlights of the selection of games that we offer. There are very few titles in the history of computer role-playing games, that have had so much impact on the gaming landscape, players' expectations, and even the popular culture. The iconic setting, the memorable quotes, and unparalleled amount of fun and challenge these games provide--it's all burned in the memory of a whole generation of gamers. Probably even more than just one generation. It was an honor to have you here, Fallout. Take good care of yourself out there, try not to mistake a gecko for G.E.C.K. (not even remotely the same thing!), and remember to take your Rad-X pills!

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All those who acquired Fallout, Fallout 2, or Fallout Tactics on GOG.com prior to the date of removal (that is before Tuesday, December 31st 2013, at 3:59PM GMT), will still be able to download the games' install files (as well as the bonus content) via the "My Games" section of their user accounts. Gift-codes for these three games acquired in our recent giveaway are no longer valid. However, if you own a gift-code for any or all of them that was purchased outside of the said giveaway, you'll still be able to redeem it in the foreseeable future.

We sincerely apologize for all the inconvenience this situation may have caused you. We invite you to browse through 671 other fantastic titles offered in our DRM-free catalog of the best games in history, and we wish you a Happy New Year of gaming!
Posted January 01, 2014
This game is funny for me. Originally played it at friends, he was a little into the game and so had great weapons and seemed fun for the whole 10 mins I got to see it. Then he burned it for me, yeah I know, and I got home. Played the game for 10ish minutes. Hated it. Died in the first temple 2 or 3 times. Put it on the shelf and forgot about it. 2 or 3 years later just throwing out everything I don't want and I stumble upon the game. OK I'll give it another go. Instal it and miraculously get past the damn ants and scorpions with a custom character I built (not a preset). Get really into the game and just played it for hours and hours on end. Probably played it through a deozen times, with cheats, without, killing everyone, or just skipping every mission, running to the final boss after the temple. Everything that I could do, I did in the game.

Of course by this time the game is no longer stocked on shelves, so I can't buy it. End up seeing it hear on GOG and pick up the trip pack, and for some reason I can not get the rest pack to work with it. So I instal from the burned CD to get the rest pack working. Loved the game once more. Then of course I see the game on sale on Steam, so I get that copy, just for ease of access. So now I bought the game twice, sadly the funds don't really go to the guys who made the game originally, but still happy to own it.

Sad to see GOG loosing the FO license, hope you get it and many more.
Posted January 01, 2014
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Kristian: Talking to ZeniMax IS in GOG's control so one has to assume they have done that and ZeniMax said no/the negotiations fell through. Hence people blame ZeniMax.
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fuzzknuckle: I tend to side with GOG as well, but don't think for a second that GOG doesn't have its own set of terms. Clearly GOG does not say to publishers, "Let us sell your games any way you see fit".
It's been stated numerous times what GOG's conditions generally are. IE: Let us sell this old property for you, DRM free, and not only will we be on the hook for selling, marketing and maintaining it, but we'll make sure the proper abandonware sites lead here for legitimate purchasing, AND offer a money back guarantee AND handle the tech support needed.

From a business sense to ME, it'd seem like a no-brainer unless said company plans its own revival, and even in the event of something like that happening, I'd still see no reason to not release old versions in order to drum up support and publicity for whatever new game you have coming out.

Some people are just slow to convince, or maybe never will be, which is unfortunate for both us and GOG.
Posted January 01, 2014
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SusurrusParadox: Wait-what?
So.. the gift codes I got for friends so they could have the original Fallout games...
They won't work?

Well that's a shame. I was looking forward to sharing those classic games with people that've never tried them before.
At least a couple of them got it before the (unexpected) expiry.
Keys, that you, maybe, purchased BEFORE winter sale will not expiry, keys made for free during sale - now invalid. In short - games you actually paid for will be served no matter that, games offered for free - no.
Posted January 01, 2014
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fuzzknuckle: I tend to side with GOG as well, but don't think for a second that GOG doesn't have its own set of terms. Clearly GOG does not say to publishers, "Let us sell your games any way you see fit".
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LiquidOxygen80: It's been stated numerous times what GOG's conditions generally are. IE: Let us sell this old property for you, DRM free, and not only will we be on the hook for selling, marketing and maintaining it, but we'll make sure the proper abandonware sites lead here for legitimate purchasing, AND offer a money back guarantee AND handle the tech support needed.

From a business sense to ME, it'd seem like a no-brainer unless said company plans its own revival, and even in the event of something like that happening, I'd still see no reason to not release old versions in order to drum up support and publicity for whatever new game you have coming out.

Some people are just slow to convince, or maybe never will be, which is unfortunate for both us and GOG.
They do have old versions for release, just not on here. Perhaps they feel that the millions upon millions of people on Steam is enough audience for them. Again, there is no loyalty here. Bethesda has no loyalty to GoG, DoTEmu, or any other distributor. It's not any different from say Lucasarts, they can choose which games can be sold from which distributor. Just because they were here before doesn't mean they are obligated to keep them here, again I ask, what loyalty does Beth/Zenimax have to GoG? They've never had a business relationship with them before.
Posted January 01, 2014
Sad news. Good news, I already own them. I smell something rotten in Maryland ;(
Posted January 01, 2014
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SusurrusParadox: Wait-what?
So.. the gift codes I got for friends so they could have the original Fallout games...
They won't work?

Well that's a shame. I was looking forward to sharing those classic games with people that've never tried them before.
At least a couple of them got it before the (unexpected) expiry.
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Redfern: Keys, that you, maybe, purchased BEFORE winter sale will not expiry, keys made for free during sale - now invalid. In short - games you actually paid for will be served no matter that, games offered for free - no.
Ehm, no. You make it sound as if keys he got for free during those 2 days they were giving out fallout for free are not valid. That's not correct.

What is not valid are EXTRA keys taken for gifting purposes but not redeemed by now.

EDIT: Never mind, misunderstanding.
Post edited January 01, 2014 by UndeadOne
Posted January 01, 2014
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Who cares? You guys took my money, then worked hard to make the game not even run under Win 7.64. Thanks for nothing, and enjoy the oblivion that's waiting for you and your company. Cutting some deadwood won't save you if you screw your customers - it only staves off the inevitable.

#GoodRiddanceToBothOfYou
Posted January 01, 2014
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Scatterblak: Who cares? You guys took my money, then worked hard to make the game not even run under Win 7.64. Thanks for nothing, and enjoy the oblivion that's waiting for you and your company. Cutting some deadwood won't save you if you screw your customers - it only staves off the inevitable.

#GoodRiddanceToBothOfYou
Try Support... Always helps ME out...

GOG clearly hasn't tried to rip off their customers, if they were things would be a lot different
Post edited January 01, 2014 by BillyMaysFan59
Posted January 01, 2014
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Scatterblak: Who cares? You guys took my money, then worked hard to make the game not even run under Win 7.64. Thanks for nothing, and enjoy the oblivion that's waiting for you and your company. Cutting some deadwood won't save you if you screw your customers - it only staves off the inevitable.

#GoodRiddanceToBothOfYou
What are you talking about? I have Win 7 64 Ultimate and the game works fine. Also, you did realize there was a MONEY BACK GUARANTEE? You know, to get a refund if it didn't work?
Edit: "I" instead of "i"
Post edited January 01, 2014 by Paltuscine
Posted January 01, 2014
Glad I snagged these when they were on that free giveaway! Sad to see them leave the library here even though I also own them on Steam. When I got these I deleted the ones from Steam and installed these instead because not being hooked to Steam(which is DRM itself) is nice.
Posted January 01, 2014
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Scatterblak: Words...?
(Joined Jan 2014).

Yep, totally legit and trustworthy post. Would read again.

On a more serious note, you could actually try contacting support over this. I tried the original Fallout, and it works just fine on my end (Windows 7 64).
Posted January 01, 2014
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LiquidOxygen80: It's been stated numerous times what GOG's conditions generally are. IE: Let us sell this old property for you, DRM free, and not only will we be on the hook for selling, marketing and maintaining it, but we'll make sure the proper abandonware sites lead here for legitimate purchasing, AND offer a money back guarantee AND handle the tech support needed.
And universal pricing. Bethesda likely gets a bigger amount from Steam due to the 1 Euro = 1 Dollar set up- and they certainly love the regional pricing on the newer games. For all the talk people have about Steam being Love and the rest everything about it is deliberately designed for publishers, not the consumers, and publishers understandably love that.

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synfresh: what loyalty does Beth/Zenimax have to GoG? They've never had a business relationship with them before.
None, but the simple fact is that the games were here, so GOG has no problem selling them, and now they're not, because Bethimax now has the rights. That is their fault, not GOG's, because they changed the situation. There've been plenty of times where rights have changed hands and the game is still for sale, eg Outcast, Hostile Waters.

Being a hard headed business decision does not absolve them of blame. If it were Bank of America bankrupting people because that made them money or the War Z people banning people to get rebuys- both hard headed business decisions- people would still be entitled to be upset and with the people doing it.
Posted January 01, 2014
I am really speechless, as I read the news, but could you elaborate further on the matter why this happened?
Posted January 01, 2014
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Scatterblak: Words...?
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RayRay13000: (Joined Jan 2014).

Yep, totally legit and trustworthy post. Would read again.

On a more serious note, you could actually try contacting support over this. I tried the original Fallout, and it works just fine on my end (Windows 7 64).
I've seen more idiots like this. One guy did a review for Heroes of Might and Magic 3 long ago, and was it to talk about the game? Nope. It was to complain about the GOG downloader application not working.
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coffeecup: I am really speechless, as I read the news, but could you elaborate further on the matter why this happened?
To cut the long story short, Bethesda aquired the Fallout IP from Interplay, the former copyright holders. Bethesda hasn't signed any contract with GOG, so they can't legally sell the Fallout titles now.
Post edited January 01, 2014 by BillyMaysFan59
Posted January 01, 2014
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LiquidOxygen80: It's been stated numerous times what GOG's conditions generally are. IE: Let us sell this old property for you, DRM free, and not only will we be on the hook for selling, marketing and maintaining it, but we'll make sure the proper abandonware sites lead here for legitimate purchasing, AND offer a money back guarantee AND handle the tech support needed.
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Phasmid: And universal pricing. Bethesda likely gets a bigger amount from Steam due to the 1 Euro = 1 Dollar set up- and they certainly love the regional pricing on the newer games. For all the talk people have about Steam being Love and the rest everything about it is deliberately designed for publishers, not the consumers, and publishers understandably love that.

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synfresh: what loyalty does Beth/Zenimax have to GoG? They've never had a business relationship with them before.
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Phasmid: None, but the simple fact is that the games were here, so GOG has no problem selling them, and now they're not, because Bethimax now has the rights. That is their fault, not GOG's, because they changed the situation. There've been plenty of times where rights have changed hands and the game is still for sale, eg Outcast, Hostile Waters.

Being a hard headed business decision does not absolve them of blame. If it were Bank of America bankrupting people because that made them money or the War Z people banning people to get rebuys- both hard headed business decisions- people would still be entitled to be upset and with the people doing it.
But the only people upset are those who do not buy from Steam, which from Bethesda's point of view probably doesn't hurt them in the long run. They have a business agreement with Steam, are there other distributors that sell Beth keys for games that are not Steam?
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