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Posted December 31, 2013
Today, we bid farewell to the legendary post-apocalyptic 2D classics.

Due to circumstances beyond our control, we needed to pull the three classic Fallout games, that is Fallout, Fallout 2, and Fallout Tactics, from sale and remove them from our DRM-free catalog. These classic titles have been with us since day one, that is for over 5 years now, and they were always one of the highlights of the selection of games that we offer. There are very few titles in the history of computer role-playing games, that have had so much impact on the gaming landscape, players' expectations, and even the popular culture. The iconic setting, the memorable quotes, and unparalleled amount of fun and challenge these games provide--it's all burned in the memory of a whole generation of gamers. Probably even more than just one generation. It was an honor to have you here, Fallout. Take good care of yourself out there, try not to mistake a gecko for G.E.C.K. (not even remotely the same thing!), and remember to take your Rad-X pills!

<img src="http://www.gog.com/upload/images/2013/12/0100650e79ca7799caa0064b2e2611a62396ed6f.png">

All those who acquired Fallout, Fallout 2, or Fallout Tactics on GOG.com prior to the date of removal (that is before Tuesday, December 31st 2013, at 3:59PM GMT), will still be able to download the games' install files (as well as the bonus content) via the "My Games" section of their user accounts. Gift-codes for these three games acquired in our recent giveaway are no longer valid. However, if you own a gift-code for any or all of them that was purchased outside of the said giveaway, you'll still be able to redeem it in the foreseeable future.

We sincerely apologize for all the inconvenience this situation may have caused you. We invite you to browse through 671 other fantastic titles offered in our DRM-free catalog of the best games in history, and we wish you a Happy New Year of gaming!
Posted December 31, 2013
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JMich: Bethesda comes to GOG but Fallout doesn't return...
That would be an epic kind of trolling...
Posted December 31, 2013
This is quite sad. For some reason, I can't help but think this is a DRM issue. Can't be price as Steam sells Fallout 1 for the same $9.99 GOG had it for. That's my opinion.

I buy from Steam too, but I usually check here first just to see if something Steam has is here too and DRM-free. I like the "I own it" concept as in I can install it and not ask Mr. GabeN permission to play. :P (Yes, I know software is "licensed", but those who understand what I mean will get it).

Seeing how Bethesda and id are owned by Zenimax, I'm guessing it's DRM, why else is Doom, Quake, and Commander Keen not on GOG? It is worth noting because DOSBox uses the GPL, any Steam game with DOSBox can't have DRM.

Again, this is just what I think. I don't know for sure. I hope GOG can get the rights to sell the games again, this way people have a DRM-free option.
Posted December 31, 2013
This news is very bittersweet for me. I love the games that Bethesda produces, but I loved all the games that Interplay made way more than I could ever love a BethSoft game.

Don't get me wrong, Oblivion and Skyrim are two of my favorite games ever, and I will always love exploring and playing them, but they don't have the nostalgia that any Interplay game has. Plus, Interplay has really been struggling to stay above water these past few years, and I truly feel that if they could get a few backers, and maybe get Brian Fargo back on board, that maybe, just maybe, they could be great again. But alas, it seems we are doomed to dumb remakes and cheap console releases from now on. :(
Posted December 31, 2013
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Grargar: That would be an epic kind of trolling...
Take a look at the 3 (at least) topics about Bethesda and Fallout. Quite a few GOGlodytes are yelling obscenities towards Bethesda.
If I were Bethesda, I would do quite a bit more trolling to be honest, releasing only some Fallouts, and the other a few months later.

Good thing I'm not Bethesda I guess...
Posted December 31, 2013
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tailsy64: Seeing how Bethesda and id are owned by Zenimax, I'm guessing it's DRM, why else is Doom, Quake, and Commander Keen not on GOG? It is worth noting because DOSBox uses the GPL, any Steam game with DOSBox can't have DRM.
I suspect it's the idea that these games can only be played through Steam. I doubt very many people realize you can play them through their own .exes. (GOG has contributed to this a little by implying that any game bought on Steam has to be played through Steam, and [I don't believe] admitting there are DRM-free games on Steam; I think they'd do well to say you can back-up some Steam games.)
Posted December 31, 2013
Interplay/Bethesda: Thx a lot for your ignorancy!
Posted December 31, 2013
Almost 100 post about who to blame and not a single mention of Canada?
Posted December 31, 2013
"Due to circumstances beyond our control[...]"

Just what were these circumstances? The only thing that I can think of is that Zeni-Max has quietly secured the rights to these games and has decided to not do business with companies that offer to sell them without any DRM. I doubt I'm the only one that would be surprised by this sort of move given the way that id Software has received very, very little support from them (look at id's back-catalogue and tell me that Rage isn't an aberration) and the way the Fallout and Elder Scrolls games have been allowed to look very pretty but be otherwise buggy as hell. Quality isn't anywhere a part of the Zeni-Max code of conduct.

But if not this...what? Is GoG able to tell us what happened, even obliquely, or was there a gag order put to it?
Posted December 31, 2013
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People needlessly raging at a company for doing something they don't like? Yup, it's the internet all right.
Posted December 31, 2013
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TheBitterness: werds
There's been a legal battle between Bethesda (who quite unfairly own the rights to Fallout) and Interplay (the company which originally created Fallout, though it is a shadow of its former self) over who has distribution rights to the game. The battle stemmed from the Fallout MMO project Interplay were working on. Bethesda ultimately won and they've decided that GOG is too good a thing to sell video games on, so they've turned their noses up at poor Trevor and His Blue Men and ceased to distribute Fallout here.
Posted December 31, 2013
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adambiser: "Gift-codes for these three games acquired in our recent giveaway are no longer valid."
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Thunderstone: After 3:59PM GMT
They've actually been invalid for several days now. Try one out.
Posted December 31, 2013
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TheBitterness: "Due to circumstances beyond our control[...]"

Just what were these circumstances? The only thing that I can think of is that Zeni-Max has quietly secured the rights to these games and has decided to not do business with companies that offer to sell them without any DRM. I doubt I'm the only one that would be surprised by this sort of move given the way that id Software has received very, very little support from them (look at id's back-catalogue and tell me that Rage isn't an aberration) and the way the Fallout and Elder Scrolls games have been allowed to look very pretty but be otherwise buggy as hell. Quality isn't anywhere a part of the Zeni-Max code of conduct.

But if not this...what? Is GoG able to tell us what happened, even obliquely, or was there a gag order put to it?
There was nothing quiet about Zenimax (BethSoft) seizing control of these games. This was a long, in and out of court battle that has lasted years, and unfortunately, basically put Interplay out of business. They were allowed to sell the game under the Interplay name for a certain about of time, and that time has ran out.

If you follow the history of these two companies, it is hard to look at the battle they have been through and not think "Hostile Takeover." Which is really sad, because I really love both companies.
Posted December 31, 2013
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tfishell: I suspect it's the idea that these games can only be played through Steam. I doubt very many people realize you can play them through their own .exes. (GOG has contributed to this a little by implying that any game bought on Steam has to be played through Steam, and [I don't believe] admitting there are DRM-free games on Steam; I think they'd do well to say you can back-up some Steam games.)
Indeed, I pretty much have Doom from there and I have to play using a source port just to be able to play my friend in multiplayer mode as Steam removed the Setup exes.

Usually the casual person who just plays the games will assume that. My friend originally played Doom via DOSBox launched from Steam. I introduced him to a source port and he hasn't used the default DOSBox since. Worth noting DOSBox on Steam is only up to version 0.72 (at least the few DOSBox games I have on Steam). I picked up Commander Keen and I use 0.74 to have fixes the other version didn't have.

It makes it easier for those who want to buy and play, and adds compatibility out of the box, but if one takes time to do the homework they can find a better experience to get more out of it. I even used EDuke32 with Duke 3D at times, and I bought that here.
Posted December 31, 2013
Is there any plan for GOG.com to negotiate a new deal with Bethesda/ZeniMax about selling Fallout 1, 2, and Tactics?
Posted December 31, 2013
At least I'll be able to play Fallout since I have it in my collection, and downloaded too. As well as the other games of course. I already took it for a spin yesterday and I enjoyed it. Makes me want to avoid Bethesda Suckworks and their products at all costs.
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