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General discussionRemoved from catalog: Fallout 1, 2, & Tactics(1041 posts)(1041 posts)
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Posted December 31, 2013
Today, we bid farewell to the legendary post-apocalyptic 2D classics.

Due to circumstances beyond our control, we needed to pull the three classic Fallout games, that is Fallout, Fallout 2, and Fallout Tactics, from sale and remove them from our DRM-free catalog. These classic titles have been with us since day one, that is for over 5 years now, and they were always one of the highlights of the selection of games that we offer. There are very few titles in the history of computer role-playing games, that have had so much impact on the gaming landscape, players' expectations, and even the popular culture. The iconic setting, the memorable quotes, and unparalleled amount of fun and challenge these games provide--it's all burned in the memory of a whole generation of gamers. Probably even more than just one generation. It was an honor to have you here, Fallout. Take good care of yourself out there, try not to mistake a gecko for G.E.C.K. (not even remotely the same thing!), and remember to take your Rad-X pills!

<img src="http://www.gog.com/upload/images/2013/12/0100650e79ca7799caa0064b2e2611a62396ed6f.png">

All those who acquired Fallout, Fallout 2, or Fallout Tactics on GOG.com prior to the date of removal (that is before Tuesday, December 31st 2013, at 3:59PM GMT), will still be able to download the games' install files (as well as the bonus content) via the "My Games" section of their user accounts. Gift-codes for these three games acquired in our recent giveaway are no longer valid. However, if you own a gift-code for any or all of them that was purchased outside of the said giveaway, you'll still be able to redeem it in the foreseeable future.

We sincerely apologize for all the inconvenience this situation may have caused you. We invite you to browse through 671 other fantastic titles offered in our DRM-free catalog of the best games in history, and we wish you a Happy New Year of gaming!
Posted January 19, 2014
Gog is as far from DRM as you can possibly get.
Posted January 19, 2014
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pimpmonkey2382: Gog is as far from DRM as you can possibly get.
Well that's not necessarily true, GOG is as far from DRM as you can legally get :-P

Actually it's not true at all, there are still Open source and freeware projects...
Post edited January 19, 2014 by Fenixp
Posted January 19, 2014
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Grargar: Well...
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real.geizterfahr: What the...
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Fenixp: Yeah...
I thought the last sentence of my post showed that I wasn't being serious, but typed words don't always come across the way you want. I guess I should have made that more clear.

@anyone else
Post #791 is meant as humor. ;)
Posted January 19, 2014
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pimpmonkey2382: Gog is as far from DRM as you can possibly get.
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Fenixp: Well that's not necessarily true, GOG is as far from DRM as you can legally get :-P

Actually it's not true at all, there are still Open source and freeware projects...
True, I mostly meant on the digital store, legal type of things though, but generally I'm wrong, yes. :P
Posted January 19, 2014
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JohnnyDollar: I thought the last sentence of my post showed that I wasn't being serious, but typed words don't always come across the way you want. I guess I should have made that more clear.
I have encountered this line of thought meant seriously before tho, mostly in the lines of 'As long as I have to create an account and remember credentials, I don't really give a shit about a client after that'. Different people have different priorities - but it seems that a large part of GOG community thinks only their, individual priorities are the correct ones, while any other lookpoint is not the correct religion...
Posted January 19, 2014
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Fenixp: Yeah...
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JohnnyDollar: I thought the last sentence of my post showed that I wasn't being serious, but typed words don't always come across the way you want. I guess I should have made that more clear.

@anyone else
Post #791 is meant as humor. ;)
I actually didn't read your last line when I made the twilight zone joke too...ESP ftw.
Posted January 19, 2014
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Grargar: If that's the case:
1) What if I don't buy the game from Steam, but from Gamersgate? Nope, no dice. I MUST still create a Steam account and install the client if I want to play it. So, not like GOG at all.
2) What if I buy retail? Nope, no escape. Steamworks for me.
3) Also, saying that a game is DRM-Free because a source port bypasses DRM is ludicrous. It's like saying that every game is DRM-Free since the DRM is bypassed by pirates. Just because some people (Not people from Bethesda/id) made a Steamworks game DRM-Free, doesn't mean that Bethesda/id sell it DRM-Free.
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JohnnyDollar: GOG is really no different than SecuROM or any other DRM. You have to log into your GOG account in order to download your game. Thus you have to prove that you own a license to the game. With SecuROM you have to prove this everytime you launch the game. The only difference is that you do it more often.

If your game uses SecuROM then it's DRM-free like GOG.

Thank you ladies and gentlemen for tuning in to channel 6 for another episode of the Twilight Zone.
I beg to differ.
Steam for example synchronizes your account with the application (game) and does several thing. It does verify your ownership, good standing, valid content etc...
Sure you may have to sign up with GoG and to log in in order to download your purchase, but thats it.
Check your installs and i bet you will not find any drm related installs.
Login in to a webpage doesn't make it drm enabled.
GoG itself does not verify anything beyond the products you bought with your account. Not sure what this fuzz is all about.
Posted January 20, 2014
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yester64: Steam for example synchronizes your account with the application (game) and does several thing. It does verify your ownership, good standing, valid content etc...
Not entirely true. There are quite a few games on Steam that are DRM-free and can be launched without the client. There's a difference between Steam itself (which is just a digital store like GOG) and CEG (Steam's DRM method which is NOT used by every game).

It's up to the publishers/developers to use CEG or not.
Posted January 20, 2014
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Neobr10: Not entirely true. There are quite a few games on Steam that are DRM-free and can be launched without the client. There's a difference between Steam itself (which is just a digital store like GOG) and CEG (Steam's DRM method which is NOT used by every game).

It's up to the publishers/developers to use CEG or not.
Yet, I find it strange that some indies/non-AAA games that are for sale DRM-free, for example in GOG, use CEG in Steam.
Posted January 20, 2014
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JohnnyDollar: GOG is really no different than SecuROM or any other DRM. You have to log into your GOG account in order to download your game. Thus you have to prove that you own a license to the game. With SecuROM you have to prove this everytime you launch the game. The only difference is that you do it more often.

If your game uses SecuROM then it's DRM-free like GOG.

Thank you ladies and gentlemen for tuning in to channel 6 for another episode of the Twilight Zone.
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yester64: I beg to differ.
Steam for example synchronizes your account with the application (game) and does several thing. It does verify your ownership, good standing, valid content etc...
Sure you may have to sign up with GoG and to log in in order to download your purchase, but thats it.
Check your installs and i bet you will not find any drm related installs.
Login in to a webpage doesn't make it drm enabled.
GoG itself does not verify anything beyond the products you bought with your account. Not sure what this fuzz is all about.
http://www.gog.com/forum/general/removed_from_catalog_fallout_1_2_tactics/post801

I'll use a neon sign next time. :P
Post edited January 20, 2014 by JohnnyDollar
Posted January 20, 2014
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Daliz: Yet, I find it strange that some indies/non-AAA games that are for sale DRM-free, for example in GOG, use CEG in Steam.
Yeah, me too. I really don't know why there aren't that many DRM-free games on Steam from indie developers. However, there are quite a few recent games that are DRM-free on Steam, such as Fez, Starbound and Monaco, and that gives me some hope. Heck, even HL2 is DRM-free now, which is kind of ironic if you take into account that HL2 was the first game to push Steam.
Post edited January 20, 2014 by Neobr10
Posted January 20, 2014
Well if it's up to Beth to put the games back on GOG you can be sure that'll never happen. How many beth games are on gog now?

Oh right.
Posted January 20, 2014
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Daliz: Yet, I find it strange that some indies/non-AAA games that are for sale DRM-free, for example in GOG, use CEG in Steam.
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Neobr10: Yeah, me too. I really don't know why there aren't that many DRM-free games on Steam from indie developers. However, there are quite a few recent games that are DRM-free on Steam, such as Fez, Starbound and Monaco, and that gives me some hope. Heck, even HL2 is DRM-free now, which is kind of ironic if you take into account that HL2 was the first game to push Steam.
So can I go to a shop, buy a copy of Half Life 2 on disk and install it without activating through Steam?

If so, I might actually buy it.
Post edited January 20, 2014 by pds41
Posted January 20, 2014
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pds41: So can I go to a shop, buy a copy of Half Life 2 on disk and install it without activating through Steam?

If so, I might actually buy it.
No, you still need Steam to install and update it if you're buying the physical version, but once it's installed and updated you can run it without ever running the Steam client again.
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Gvaz: Well if it's up to Beth to put the games back on GOG you can be sure that'll never happen. How many beth games are on gog now?
One: Arx Fatalis. Now that Arkane belongs to Bethesda, Arx Fatalis is technically a Zenimax/Bethesda game. So, yes, we do have a Bethesda game here.
Post edited January 20, 2014 by Neobr10
Posted January 20, 2014
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pds41: So can I go to a shop, buy a copy of Half Life 2 on disk and install it without activating through Steam?

If so, I might actually buy it.
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Neobr10: No, you still need Steam to install and update it if you're buying the physical version, but once it's installed and updated you can run it without ever running the Steam client again.
Thanks for the reply and clarification - that's a shame - that's more DRM than I'm (personally) willing to take.
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