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Posted October 01, 2015
FPS Immortals are here.

Quake II: Quad Damage, Quake III: Gold, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Wolfenstein 3D and Spear of Destiny - are available now, DRM-free on GOG.com. You can pick them up at 33% off in two bundles:
<span class="bold">Quake Damage</span> & <span class="bold">Return to Wolfenstein</span>.





Wolfenstein 3D (with Spear of Destiny) is widely considered to be the first true 3D FPS ever. It single handedly kickstarted a generation of id Software greats, and thus influenced just about every FPS we've played ever since. Its mazes, shades of gray, and blue hues are burned into the collective gaming memory - plus you get to kill a mechanized Hitler. Classic.
In the early days of FPS gaming, Quake II: Quad Damage was the milestone. In a spot-on review from 1997, GameSpot calls it "the only first-person shooter to render the original Quake entirely obsolete." It was bigger, better, prettier, and smoother than any clone or predecessor - it also offered one of the most playable, and by far most popular multiplayer experiences of its day.
Quake III: Gold, aka. multiplayer revolution. Despite a controversial removal of the lauded single-player experience the series was known for, Quake III: Arena became a smash-hit and (together with Unreal Tournament) essentially defined arena-style, movement-based competitive gaming for years. The shooter spawned a community that's been living and breathing to this day.
In B.J. Blazkowicz's Return to Castle Wolfenstein, another legend is born. A unique, objective-based multiplayer mode saw immense popularity back in the day - and it was actually pretty okay if you're into that sort of thing. The single-player campaign is a dark, somewhat ridiculous freak show of morbid, scientific fantasy. An ever present sense of dread emanates from the disturbing experiments and cult-like universe, just waiting to be set afire - by you.


As with any Bethesda purchase, you'll also get The Elder Scrolls: Arena & Daggerfall for free!


Prepare to fight in Quake II: Quad Damage, Quake III: Gold, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Wolfenstein 3D and Spear of Destiny - now DRM-free on GOG.com. Return to the FPS immortals at 33% off in two bundles: <span class="bold">Quake Damage</span> & <span class="bold">Return to Wolfenstein</span>. The promo will last for one week, until October 8, 12:59 PM GMT.



The four titles released today are not available for purchase in Germany. These are legal restrictions that are beyond our control, and we're very sorry for the inconvenience.
Posted October 02, 2015
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mobutu: I guess this doesn't make any business/legal sense at all from GOGs point of view so they don't implement expensive and complicated systems in order to verify german adults and hide german indexed games for minors etc etc.
Plus, Zenimax (Bethesda's owner) has a big psyhical office in germany so its obvious why they they don't want troubles.

If germans want to buy these games then they should fight/lobby/vote the stupid politicians that made these stupid laws and erase them (both the imbeciles politicians and their hideous law creations) for good to the history trashcan.
As already mentioned GOG couldn't sell 98% of their games because of missing USK rating for english and uncut versions. And this would affect other big publishers with big physical offices in Germany like EA (Medal of Honor).
So your theory doesn't make much sense. -;

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classic-gamer: And there is the problem: a publisher like Bethesda has more power on GOG than GOG themselves...
Looking-glass world and nice signal to other publishers that they can indroduce things like DRM. GOG would allow it, I'm pretty shure...
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clisair: It is not Bethesda that is dictating the release area, it is a matter of law. The game was BANNED in Germany by the legislative body there, it had nothing to do with Id or Bethesda.
Once again: NO! If yes, GOG couldn't sell 98% of all games for german customers because of missing USK (something like ESRB in US) ratings for english and uncut versions. This would also affect ALL other Bethesda games like TES3, because you automatically get them.
Post edited October 02, 2015 by classic-gamer
Posted October 02, 2015
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kirghylommax: Sorry, but at these prices, I think I'll save my money. They're all overpriced.
HAH! You should see at what price Steam offers those. Main game with expansions of course.

Your next post is going to be: Ok, nevermind. GOG has it cheaper.
Posted October 02, 2015
Pretty funny seeing people complain about the pricing. Especially after Bethsoft literally tried to make paid mods a thing not too long ago.
Posted October 02, 2015
Ah the days of yore when most classic games on here only sold for 5.99 and 9.99. Those days are long gone. But then again that is the difference of the GoG of today and Good Old Games. With growth comes sacrifice.
Posted October 02, 2015
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vv221: No Linux? No buy!
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Well, who am I trying to fool here?
I bought Quake 2 & 3 as soon as I saw them on the front page ;)

A human can have principles, but Quake 2 & 3 are above principles.
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hedwards: You weren't going to use a source port?
I’m using yamagi-quake2 & ioquake3, but I don’t like the idea that I’m giving money to an editor that doesn’t care about official Linux support.
I made an exception for Quake II & III out of nostalgia, but my usual rule is: "No official Linux support = no buy".
Posted October 02, 2015
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Konrad: Hey guys,
It probably doesn't need to be said, but if it was only up to us - we'd love to release these games worldwide. In this particular case, the games' publisher is forbidden from offering the titles to German customers, and we have to respect these limitations.

Still, we did not want to refuse the games altogether, simply because we felt this would be unfair to gamers from all remaining 190+ countries.
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MaGo72: Trash the German store front, problem solved. :)
+1000000000000000000000 times this!
nobody wants the terrible localization.
everybody in germany old enough to be on GOG is fluent in english anyways
Posted October 02, 2015
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thesmashingone: Nice releases, GOG! Although, before I buy, can anyone confirm if Quake 2 comes with music? I remember the Steam version needing an additional fan-made patch to include the music.
The music is not on their own files to download. Buy! they are in the game and play like they did back in the days when you would have the CD in. so all is well.
Well GOG, with the purchase of Quake2 my List of classic games is now complete. The first two game I played were Duke 3D and Quake2. I still have a old system set up to play the ones I purchased years ago. But when they were listed here on GOG. Well I purchased them again. Thanks GOG for bringing us these classic games.
Post edited October 02, 2015 by maxskill
Posted October 02, 2015
Lol at those Russian prices. I almost had a heart attack >_<
Posted October 02, 2015
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Indyxt: Lol at those Russian prices. I almost had a heart attack >_<
$3 ? ;)
Posted October 02, 2015
Ohwww, real good games. Sh$t won't be able to buy them. And I am not interested enough for using vpn to buy some
(Wofenstein) illeagl (for Germans) games just for the kick.
Posted October 02, 2015
Nice, but i still have the Cd's x^)
We still need to see some more recent games from Bethesda's 'steam-only' repo make it here.

Overpriced? - perhaps.
But i still prefer this to no games at all.
Posted October 02, 2015
may i buy those games with VPN? i mean wtf?
or can someone gift it from outside germany? im 32 years old lol
Post edited October 02, 2015 by Caine123
Posted October 02, 2015
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Caine123: may i buy those games with VPN? i mean wtf?
or can someone gift it from outside germany? im 32 years old lol
You cna use a proxy, there are plugins for browsers.

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Schnuff: Ohwww, real good games. Sh$t won't be able to buy them. And I am not interested enough for using vpn to buy some
(Wofenstein) illeagl (for Germans) games just for the kick.
It is not. You are just allowed to buy them if you are older than 18 years and just for private use.

Bethesda just does not want to sell this to the people on GOG because they have an office in Germany and they age is not verified here so many young people could buy it here too.
Post edited October 02, 2015 by DanielRuf
Posted October 02, 2015
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skeletonbow: Saying that it is a lie is totally ignoring the reality that German law prohibits video games from displaying Nazi symbols however and making a false premise that the publisher is purposefully doing something bad for the consumer or is evil somehow which is a crock of shit really. They would like nothing more than to have one copy of their game to sell globally and that includes selling it in Germany unmodified, and the only reason they are not selling it in Germany unmodified is because of German law. There is no lie.
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jamyskis: OK. Let's be perfectly clear about one thing here. There is no "law" prohibiting video games from displaying Nazi symbols. The problem in question here is Section 86a of the German Criminal Code, which prohibits the use of anti-constitutional symbols for the glorification of forbidden organisations, which includes the NSDAP.

The suppression of games using Nazi symbolism is down to the abuse of this law by a number of neo-fascist, self-righteous bitter old fuckwits who want to ban anything they don't like and who apparently don't want Nazism being associated with evil. These cunts have abused a law with a valuable purpose to front a rather unpleasant political agenda.

Games are art - that much has been acknowledged by the German Kulturrat, and the use of this law for the suppression of art is forbidden in that very same paragraph. Therefore, any claim to the banning of games based on the use of these symbols is illegitimate.

And anyone - ANYONE - who complies with these interpretations is complicit in this violation. That now includes GOG.
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Posted October 02, 2015
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MaGo72: Trash the German store front, problem solved. :)
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gnodab: +1000000000000000000000 times this!
nobody wants the terrible localization.
everybody in germany old enough to be on GOG is fluent in english anyways
Amen.

And thank you for nothing, GOG.
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