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Posted October 01, 2015
FPS Immortals are here.

Quake II: Quad Damage, Quake III: Gold, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Wolfenstein 3D and Spear of Destiny - are available now, DRM-free on GOG.com. You can pick them up at 33% off in two bundles:
<span class="bold">Quake Damage</span> & <span class="bold">Return to Wolfenstein</span>.





Wolfenstein 3D (with Spear of Destiny) is widely considered to be the first true 3D FPS ever. It single handedly kickstarted a generation of id Software greats, and thus influenced just about every FPS we've played ever since. Its mazes, shades of gray, and blue hues are burned into the collective gaming memory - plus you get to kill a mechanized Hitler. Classic.
In the early days of FPS gaming, Quake II: Quad Damage was the milestone. In a spot-on review from 1997, GameSpot calls it "the only first-person shooter to render the original Quake entirely obsolete." It was bigger, better, prettier, and smoother than any clone or predecessor - it also offered one of the most playable, and by far most popular multiplayer experiences of its day.
Quake III: Gold, aka. multiplayer revolution. Despite a controversial removal of the lauded single-player experience the series was known for, Quake III: Arena became a smash-hit and (together with Unreal Tournament) essentially defined arena-style, movement-based competitive gaming for years. The shooter spawned a community that's been living and breathing to this day.
In B.J. Blazkowicz's Return to Castle Wolfenstein, another legend is born. A unique, objective-based multiplayer mode saw immense popularity back in the day - and it was actually pretty okay if you're into that sort of thing. The single-player campaign is a dark, somewhat ridiculous freak show of morbid, scientific fantasy. An ever present sense of dread emanates from the disturbing experiments and cult-like universe, just waiting to be set afire - by you.


As with any Bethesda purchase, you'll also get The Elder Scrolls: Arena & Daggerfall for free!


Prepare to fight in Quake II: Quad Damage, Quake III: Gold, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Wolfenstein 3D and Spear of Destiny - now DRM-free on GOG.com. Return to the FPS immortals at 33% off in two bundles: <span class="bold">Quake Damage</span> & <span class="bold">Return to Wolfenstein</span>. The promo will last for one week, until October 8, 12:59 PM GMT.



The four titles released today are not available for purchase in Germany. These are legal restrictions that are beyond our control, and we're very sorry for the inconvenience.
Posted October 02, 2015
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Piranjade: That means that GOG won't be able to do it. The hurdles to be allowed to do that are extremely high, as outlined in this article:
http://www.it-recht-kanzlei.de/Thema/verkauf-computerspiele.html
(especially part V.)
And yes, GOG as a distributor targeting a German audience has to comply with these rules.
I made that suggestion before: Only give access to the games card when German users enter a valid credit card number. You are not allowed to have one when you are a minor.

And about the article: As far as I understand it, I should at least be allowed to buy a game key as long as it comes with a statement that minors are not allowed to redeem it.
Posted October 02, 2015
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Piranjade: That means that GOG won't be able to do it. The hurdles to be allowed to do that are extremely high, as outlined in this article:
http://www.it-recht-kanzlei.de/Thema/verkauf-computerspiele.html
(especially part V.)
And yes, GOG as a distributor targeting a German audience has to comply with these rules.
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PaterAlf: I made that suggestion before: Only give access to the games card when German users enter a valid credit card number. You are not allowed to have one when you are a minor.

And about the article: As far as I understand it, I should at least be allowed to buy a game key as long as it comes with a statement that minors are not allowed to redeem it.
Not everyone has a credit card who is over 18.
There is a Post Ident service and others where you can verify your age. You just have to do it once.

This is also used by Amazon and others.
There are also alternatives like SOFORT Ident by SOFORT payment, VideoIdent and so on.
Post edited October 02, 2015 by DanielRuf
Posted October 02, 2015
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Piranjade: That means that GOG won't be able to do it. The hurdles to be allowed to do that are extremely high, as outlined in this article:
http://www.it-recht-kanzlei.de/Thema/verkauf-computerspiele.html
(especially part V.)
And yes, GOG as a distributor targeting a German audience has to comply with these rules.
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PaterAlf: I made that suggestion before: Only give access to the games card when German users enter a valid credit card number. You are not allowed to have one when you are a minor.

And about the article: As far as I understand it, I should at least be allowed to buy a game key as long as it comes with a statement that minors are not allowed to redeem it.
Credit cards are not considered sufficient proof (see the article). So no, that won't work. Would be nice if that path was open, but it isn't.
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DanielRuf: Not everyone has a credit card who is over 18.
There is a Post Ident service and others where you can verify your age. You just have to do it once.

This is also used by Amazon and others.
Yep, Post-Ident would work.
Post edited October 02, 2015 by Piranjade
Posted October 02, 2015
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PaterAlf: I made that suggestion before: Only give access to the games card when German users enter a valid credit card number. You are not allowed to have one when you are a minor.

And about the article: As far as I understand it, I should at least be allowed to buy a game key as long as it comes with a statement that minors are not allowed to redeem it.
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Piranjade: Credit cards are not considered sufficient proof (see the article). So no, that won't work. Would be nice if that path was open, but it isn't.
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DanielRuf: Not everyone has a credit card who is over 18.
There is a Post Ident service and others where you can verify your age. You just have to do it once.

This is also used by Amazon and others.
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Piranjade: Yep, Post-Ident would work.
Or SOFORT Ident, by the payment provider SOFORT which GOG supports.
Post edited October 02, 2015 by DanielRuf
Posted October 02, 2015
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Piranjade: Credit cards are not considered sufficient proof (see the article). So no, that won't work. Would be nice if that path was open, but it isn't.

Yep, Post-Ident would work.
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DanielRuf: Or SOFORT Ident, by the payment provider SOFORT which GOG supports.
Don't know anything about SOFORT Ident so I have to 1. take your word for that 2. then look it up when I have time. :-)
Posted October 02, 2015
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DanielRuf: Or SOFORT Ident, by the payment provider SOFORT which GOG supports.
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Piranjade: Don't know anything about SOFORT Ident so I have to 1. take your word for that 2. then look it up when I have time. :-)
Here ;-)

http://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/add_sofort_ident_and_post_ident_to_verify_age

Deutsche Post also provides Video and online solutions.
Posted October 02, 2015
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Piranjade: Don't know anything about SOFORT Ident so I have to 1. take your word for that 2. then look it up when I have time. :-)
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DanielRuf: Here ;-)

http://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/add_sofort_ident_and_post_ident_to_verify_age

Deutsche Post also provides Video and online solutions.
Voted. :-)
Posted October 02, 2015
Oomph, 12 resp. 18 euros for the 16yr old Q3A/Q3TA? Sheesh.

IIRC that's half the price I paid for the whole "id Pack" on Steam several years ago.

Boo, Zenimax, boo.
Post edited October 02, 2015 by Elbart
Posted October 02, 2015
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viperfdl: You realized that this IT-Recht-Kanzlei is based in Munich / Bavaria, right? That's the most conservative bunch of lunatics in Germany.
Marginal note: Munich isn't synonymous for Bavaria - as evidenced by the fact that the city is run by a social democratic mayor for decades now while the federal state Bavaria is run by the right-wing conservatives you are pointing at (and even they aren't as bad as American right-wing politics) ...
Posted October 02, 2015
Good release, it's nice to see these games coming to gog although I don't feel like playing or replaying them at the moment. I feel bad for the Germans too :(
Posted October 02, 2015
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classic-gamer: No, not for Q2/3.
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Piranjade: I tried to find information about this but couldn't find any saying that they are not on the Liste der indizierten Spiele anymore. Do you have a link?
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Piranjade: I tried to find information about this but couldn't find any saying that they are not on the Liste der indizierten Spiele anymore. Do you have a link?
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DarthKant: They are still "Indexed". But that does not mean you are not allowed to sell or buy them. Just make sure the customer is aged 18 or above.
A lot of games here are indexed in GER and you still can buy them here at GOG. This (Q2/3) has nothing to do with German Law.

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Piranjade: That means that GOG won't be able to do it. The hurdles to be allowed to do that are extremely high, as outlined in this article:
http://www.it-recht-kanzlei.de/Thema/verkauf-computerspiele.html
(especially part V.)
And yes, GOG as a distributor targeting a German audience has to comply with these rules.
Well because of the fact that you get automatically english and uncensored version here witch have no USK rating, GOG wouldn't be able to sell 98% of their catalog in Germany.
It doesn't make any sense what's GOG doing here in Germany.

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viperfdl: In other words: Bethesda/Zenimax commands:"Jump!" and gog.com asks:"How high?"...
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Yeshu: No, it means German government says "No!" and Zenimax and GoG have to comply or else there will be angry German lawyers on there backs.
Sorry but this is bullshit! Please don't spread such lies here.

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Piranjade: Don't know anything about SOFORT Ident so I have to 1. take your word for that 2. then look it up when I have time. :-)
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DanielRuf: Here ;-)

http://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/add_sofort_ident_and_post_ident_to_verify_age

Deutsche Post also provides Video and online solutions.
This doesn't make any sense for Q2/3. This is NO resriction by German Law!
It would only affect Commandos and Wolfenstein.
Post edited October 02, 2015 by classic-gamer
Posted October 02, 2015
Yeah Um.. Return to Castle Wolfenstien I have on disc and it's Really rubbish most of the guards have Like 2 to 3 words Max that go along the lines of:

Actung

Himmel

and "Ze americana"

The game is SO Broken on so many levels did you know you can get stuck in the walls and other weird stuff the game also Runs WAY TOO FAST Meaning it's Too hard there is clipping Issues you can fall through certain parts of the map RTCW is so Crappy Most animations I swear are missing too!, Textures don't Line up and everything.

So german dudes your not missing out on much!
Post edited October 02, 2015 by fr33kSh0w2012
Posted October 02, 2015
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DarthKant: They are still "Indexed". But that does not mean you are not allowed to sell or buy them. Just make sure the customer is aged 18 or above.
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classic-gamer: A lot of games here are indexed in GER and you still can buy them here at GOG. This (Q2/3) has nothing to do with German Law.

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Piranjade: That means that GOG won't be able to do it. The hurdles to be allowed to do that are extremely high, as outlined in this article:
http://www.it-recht-kanzlei.de/Thema/verkauf-computerspiele.html
(especially part V.)
And yes, GOG as a distributor targeting a German audience has to comply with these rules.
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classic-gamer: Well because of the fact that you get automatically english and uncensored version here witch have no USK rating, GOG wouldn't be able to sell 98% of their catalog in Germany.
It doesn't make any sense what's GOG doing here in Germany.
I can even get the english version of Indiana Jones: Emperors Tomb, which ist completely uncensored (violence, nazi symbolics etc.) to my knowledge. Other examples were stated above. And what about the Medal of Honor Warchest?
As far as i see it, this seems to be all Bethesdas doing. Just look at Steam and the release of Wolfenstein: New Order.
Posted October 02, 2015
Now for quake 2 we have the ERASER Bot

[url=http://www.fileplanet.com/35414/download/Eraser-Bot-1.01-(FINAL]http://www.fileplanet.com/35414/download/Eraser-Bot-1.01-(FINAL[/url]!)

How to get it to Run
http://www.reactos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&amp;t=10988
Post edited October 02, 2015 by fr33kSh0w2012
Posted October 02, 2015
If you live in Germany, just break the lock with a VPN and buy your stuff.

BYW, Wolfenstein 3D has all six episodes?
Post edited October 02, 2015 by JamesBond007
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